Brendan Murphy on 2009-11-09
So instead of one test we have two big tests in a year.
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Brendan Murphy on 2009-11-09
So instead of one test we have two big tests in a year.
Brendan Murphy on 2009-11-09
Why we should have a two year mentorin gprogram. 1st year watching learning and occasionaly teaching 2nd year teaching and taking constructive criticism
Brendan Murphy on 2009-11-09
Why not spend more time in actual classrooms? instead of one sememster of student teaching which is actually only 6 to 9 weeks why not a full year or even two of working in the classroom?
Brendan Murphy on 2009-11-09
Actually what most of these firms do is bring in thousands of applicants tell them they can make hundreds of thousands per year and then work them to death until there are just a few left. Meanwhile taking the orphaned clients and passing them off to vets who survived the trial by fire.
Having thousands of applicants actually makes them more money than being selective about who they hire.
ANNALS OF EDUCATION about how to predict performance in teaching and football. On the day of the big football game between the University of Missouri Tigers and the Cowboys of Oklahoma State, a football scout named Don Shonka made his way through a videotape of the Tigers’ previous contest, against…
Gladwell on teachers
almost in half to get the same boost that you’d get if you switched from an
average teacher to a teacher in the eighty-fifth percentile. And remember that a
good teacher costs as much as an average one, whereas halving class size would
require that you build twice as many classrooms and hire twice as many
teachers.
Hanushek recently
did a back-of-the-envelope calculation about what even a rudimentary focus on
teacher quality could mean for the United States. If you rank the countries of
the world in terms of the
AN interesting look at teaching. Malcolm Gladwell uses the analogy of evaluating talent for NFL to make a position on evaluating teachers.
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The performance of teachers, like NFL quarterbacks, is impossible to predict. Only as they do their jobs can their success be measured and quantified. We use the wrong indicators to predict teacher success, such as test scores and grades. Instead, we can only gauge a teacher's "withitness" when we see them in the classroom.
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the difference between good teachers and poor teachers turns out to be vast.
Eric Hanushek, an economist at Stanford, estimates that the students of a very bad teacher will learn, on average, half a year’s worth of material in one school year.
great for both football coaches and teachers... lucky me!!
Mark Gomez on 2009-01-06
although very true, sometimes the truth is the best excuse not to change... and i feel a lot of teachers use these two truths to escape the responsibility they share for their students academic performance.
Mark Gomez on 2009-01-06
uhm... hello, i think this is not the root of the problem. i have seen many a great teachers with huge potential, just like the quarterbacks.
perhaps we should take a look at how these great rookies are supported once they are in a program (school or team) and how there potential is maximized.
i have seen great teachers leave because they are not supported in ways that help them unleash their potential or continue to develop it...
Mark Gomez on 2009-01-06
imagine that!! qualitative indicators as well as quantitative?
Mark Gomez on 2009-01-06
that is interesting, not sure you could not find the same correlation between bad teachers and new placements...
Mark Gomez on 2009-01-06
this is something that needs to be reviewed and shown to TEP students...
Mark Gomez on 2009-01-07
this is something that should have an entire course dedicated to teacher training programs.
i have watched enough kung fu movies in my time that i refuse to believe that with enough conscious and explicit training, something like "withitness" couldn't be taught...
it might look ridiculous and funny at the outset, but why couldn't new teachers get practice with the different types of class management techniques and develop more people (student) friendly skills?
Brendan Murphy on 2009-11-09
more time in teh classroom watching and disecting master teachers more time in teh classroom being evaluated by master teachers.
Mark Gomez on 2009-01-07
wow... now we are going to piss some people off... i like it!!
Mark Gomez on 2009-01-07
a healthy reward isn't always monetary (just ask any teacher now) the holidays help with the actual health part... but i am all for increasing teacher rewards for those deserving...
Mark Gomez on 2009-01-07
this bothers me a lot... even as a union supporter.
http://www.ed4change.com/?p=81
Annals of Education: Reporting & Essays: The New Yorker
Great piece from Gladwell on relating teaching to NFL Quarterbacks.
"How do we hire when we can’t tell who’s right for the job?"
Educational-reform efforts typically start with a push for higher standards for teachers-that is, for the academic and cognitive requirements for entering the profession to be as stiff as possible. But after you've watched Pianta's tapes, and seen how complex the elements of effective teaching are, this emphasis on book smarts suddenly seems peculiar.
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How do we hire when we can’t tell who’s right for the job

Karen Richardson on 2008-12-16
Actually, the more pressing problem is KEEPING the teachers, especially the good ones since they are more likely to be frustrated by the flawed system and leave to do something else.

Karen Richardson on 2008-12-16
Crude is the right word but it's all we've got. Unfortunately, this isn't usually how the testing works...teachers are judged by end of the year scores only from one year to the next so it's different groups of kids.

Karen Richardson on 2008-12-16
Unfortunately, the schools that really need the good teachers usually don't have 1000 applicants for ten positions...they're lucky if they have more than one.
Eric Hanushek, an economist at Stanford, estimates that the students of a very bad teacher will learn, on average, half a year’s worth of material in one school year. The students in the class of a very good teacher will learn a year and a half’s worth of
The school system has a quarterback problem.
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"Academic performance of kids in U.S. schools would be enhanced by getting rid of the worst 10% of teachers. How do you know who they are?" -Aldaily
Jenn Broekman on 2008-12-13
And yet NCLB makes the certifications mandatory. Not that I think you can effectively teach high school content without a thorough grasp of the content and at least as thorough a grasp of basic pedagogy, but transcripts don't do a great job of measuring those...
Charlie Brooks on 2009-01-07
What about certifications like CTT+ that are behavior-based? And are there any predictors for success in distance learning?
Brendan Murphy on 2009-11-09
It isn't that the need for a requirement is wrong, it's that the certification process itself is emphasizing the wrong things.
Jenn Broekman on 2008-12-13
YES!
Michael Scott on 2008-12-12
Exactly,,, this is why data we have about reading and math instruction should be used to find out who our really good teachers are. It's why I take the time to look at the data. You can't observe these people frequently enough to know, but if they work for us for a number of years, we sure can find out who is effective.
Most Likely to Succeed
How do we hire when we can’t tell who’s right for the job?
by Malcolm Gladwell
Effective teachers have a gift for noticing—what one researcher calls “withitness.” What does it say about a society that it devotes more care and patience to the selection of those who handle its money than of those who handle its children?
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Clay Burell on 2008-12-09
A facile analysis, and skewed. Upper class schools are above average, while poor SES schools are below. The problem is the poor schools.
Clay Burell on 2008-12-09
"Simply" is not that simple.
Jenn Broekman on 2008-12-12
Especially when you factor in licensing and "highly qualified" requirements.
Clay Burell on 2008-12-09
I hope you substantiate this with data about what has been DONE about these issues, instead of the "worry." Because by many accounts, not much has been done at all.
Clay Burell on 2008-12-09
Which ones? And how about the "many" who disagree with them?
In teaching, the implications are ... suggest that we shouldn’t be raising standards. We should be lowering them, because there is no point in raising standards if standards don’t track with what we care about. Teaching should be open to anyone with a pul
How do we hire when we can’t tell who’s right for the job?
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Deutschlander sees his role as keeping the gate as wide open as possible: to find ten new financial advisers, he’s willing to interview a thousand people. The equivalent of that approach, in the N.F.L., would be for a team to give up trying to figure out who the “best” college quarterback is, and, instead, try out three or four “good” candidates.
In teaching, the implications are even more profound. They suggest that we shouldn’t be raising standards. We should be lowering them, because there is no point in raising standards if standards don’t track with what we care about. Teaching should be open to anyone with a pulse and a college degree—and teachers should be judged after they have started their jobs, not before.
Fun read from Gladwell that also provokes. What a great writer/thinker he is!
Good teachers matter more than any other factor in deterimining student success.
"A prediction, in a field where prediction is not possible, is no more than a prejudice."
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perhaps we should take a look at how these great rookies are supported once they are in a program (school or team) and how there potential is maximized.
i have seen great teachers leave because they are not supported in ways that help them unleash their potential or continue to develop it...
Having thousands of applicants actually makes them more money than being selective about who they hire.
i have watched enough kung fu movies in my time that i refuse to believe that with enough conscious and explicit training, something like "withitness" couldn't be taught...
it might look ridiculous and funny at the outset, but why couldn't new teachers get practice with the different types of class management techniques and develop more people (student) friendly skills?
http://www.ed4change.com/?p=81
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