For whom? the hoi poloi?
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Joel JiménezTalks about the old model of LMS and the one SNS. Compares between FB (social driven) and google search functionality (content driven).
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Facebook looked at the same web and saw people who needed to be connected.
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Barbara McDonaldAn interesting blog post RE: the topic as well as a lively discussion in the comments afterward. Overall, some great stuff to think about.
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Milos BajceticFuture of learning: LMS or SNS?
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Most organizations currently use a learning management system (LMS) such as Moodle or Desire2Learn. These systems are content-centric. Their objective is to organize and manage content, just as Google did in early 2000. Because higher education is particularly enamored with content, an LMS is a critical service. It’s completely the wrong model, however, and this will become increasingly apparent in the next several years.
To survive, LMS vendors will need to transform their offerings on the social network model of Facebook. ELGG is an excellent alternative to an LMS, but most organizations are not yet willing to accept a network-centric tool as an alternative to Moodle (disclaimer or bragging – you choose: I was on ELGG’s initial advisory board that never fully materialized, and used the software for several pilot programs in 2005 with Red River College and with Duke Corporate Education). ELGG is a better model of what learning will/should look like than any of the current contenders in the space.
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Greater adaptivity of content is required
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LMS’ perpetuate the course model
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Complexity is quickly becoming a type of conceptual language that all members of society should be fluent in.
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Complexity, on the other hand, recognizes that numerous interacting elements will form and reform to produce patterns that we can’t anticipate in advance.
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Managing abundance and complexity requires a different view of teaching and learning than currently forms the foundation of education.
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The content-centric view reflected by LMS’ must be replaced with more adaptive network models. Instead of experts and designers serving as the key sensemaking and wayfinding agents in curriculum, social networks and their ability for context-sensitivity must play a greater role.
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First: Most organizations currently use a learning management system (LMS) such as Moodle or Desire2Learn. These systems are content-centric. Their objective is to organize and manage content, just as Google did in early 2000. Because higher education is particularly enamored with content, an LMS is a critical service. It’s completely the wrong model, however, and this will become increasingly apparent in the next several years.
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ELGG is an excellent alternative to an LMS, but most organizations are not yet willing to accept a network-centric tool as an alternative to Moodle
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ELGG is a better model of what learning will/should look like than any of the current contenders in the space. And yes, for you open-source lovers of Drupal and Wordpress, I include those software tools in the “not as good as” category.
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On another note, perhaps my biggest gripe is that we’ve provided teachers this AWESOME tool to structure courses and content that could easily be used by other teachers, but the software locks it down (or at least, it provides tools that are easily configured to “close” the content to the outside). Sure there are Moodle course exchanges, but far and wide content is closed to outsiders, difficult to procure (even if a backup is available) and not available as OER. Imagine if all the content created in Moodle were open? THAT would be a great asset to the educational community and would be ripe to transition past the “build today use for 3 years model” to more of a social approach (where the best content floats to the top of social interactions because it’s freely available).
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Beverley Oliver says:
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Here’s a thought, though…do many of the LMSs and other systems give the control of the space to the learner? (It’s a genuine question-I don’t know the answer). In the limited examples that I see and hear of, as per some of these comments, the teacher has the overriding authority to lock down or open up, so their ‘teaching paradigm’ rules. At present, at Curtin University, we are building an eportfolio system which (like others) gives control to the student–not only to post, but to form their own groups within and beyond the university and so on. This means the learner’s ‘learning paradigm’ rules, and because it’s not an LMS, the scope is not bound by enrolment in a particular course.
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Jude Rathburn says:
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I am wondering whether you think the social networking model should be more open than what most universities can currently offer in their LMS. Issues such as user authentication (making sure that everyone who enters the space is a registered user) and privacy (protecting students’ rights to know who is viewing their posts) – seems to make it less likely that LMS will adopt an open social networking model. While I think there may be some value to having folks from outside the university participate in discussions, it seems like it might be very hard to manage the complexity.
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t’s completely the wrong model, however, and this will become increasingly apparent in the next several years.
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anja c. wagnerWas unterscheidet Google von Facebook? Mit welchen Konsequenzen für das Lernen?
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Peter BeaumontPost comparing the VLE model with Google's information organisation paradigm, and what education needs with Facebook's connecting people and enabling sharing paradigm.
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joysulimanGoogle and Facebook are very different companies. Google has its roots in content – their explicit aim is to organize the worlds information. Facebook, in contrast, is socially driven with the aim of helping “you connect and share with the people in your
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Facebook – in error or through brilliant anticipation – based its online model on social connections and information sharing based on those connections
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Carol FurchnerInteresting article about limitations of Learning Mangement Systems (content-focused) with respect to social networking, collaboration, teamwork (Social Networking Systems - SNS). Posits the success of Facebook as evidence that social networking is important not only in life but also education. Facebook as a model for future online education? Not until they get the privacy thing fixed.
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Peter Ruwoldt"Google and Facebook are very different companies. Google has its roots in content – their explicit aim is to organize the worlds information. Facebook, in contrast, is socially driven with the aim of helping “you connect and share with the people in your life”.
The distinction between these two approaches is important for educators to consider, as we face a similar dichotomy in how we approach teaching and learning with technology."technology curriculum integration connectivism learning lms e-learning future
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Philip GirvanLearning Management Systems vs Social Networking Systems
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people who had shown little interest in the social aspect of the web until that time.
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an LMS is a critical service. It’s completely the wrong model, however, and this will become increasingly apparent in the next several years.
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Greater adaptivity of content is required. Learning resources should be tagged with a “best before date” so we’re not teaching information that is no longer accurate. LMS’ perpetuate the course model. And that is their greatest flaw.
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Complexity, on the other hand, recognizes that numerous interacting elements will form and reform to produce patterns that we can’t anticipate in advance. Complicated=jigsaw puzzle. Complexity=weather.
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Instead of experts and designers serving as the key sensemaking and wayfinding agents in curriculum, social networks and their ability for context-sensitivity must play a greater role.
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damiana guedesFuture of learning: LMS or SNS?
Google and Facebook are very different companies. Google has its roots in content – their explicit aim is to organize the worlds information. Facebook, in contrast, is socially driven with the aim of helping “you connect and share with the people in your life”. -
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Add Sticky NoteFacebook’s model is the one that will be successful in the long run.
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Information is commodity- it's useful and organizing it is needed.
Social structures are a human's bread and butter. We are wired to want and need social contact. Why else do we care about marraige and friends?
Online social networks such as diigo and twitter provide us with something valuable that grows over time. Whuffie online mirrors Whuffie in face to face activities. Do good and communicate, and you gain from the interest and help of others. - 1 more sticky notes...
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We learn from books and resources, but first and foremost from family and friends, especially those who help us go a little further in our cognitive developments (proximal development zone) as wll as our affective development.
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Add Sticky NoteFB is skilled at idiocy
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Indeed! Which explains it's mass market appeal. And why I don't want one. (Although I may be idiotic.)
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Add Sticky NoteThe wild card in education today is abundance. We simply have too much information and we can’t make sense of it all.
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So why teach content? Our schools need to step up to the plate and teach learners critical thinking, collaborating, creating.
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Best way to teach content is to teach its use- here here!
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Mark SmithersGoogle and Facebook are very different companies. Google has its roots in content – their explicit aim is to organize the worlds information. Facebook, in contrast, is socially driven with the aim of helping “you connect and share with the people in your
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arjenvrielinkYou are more awesome than awesome itself
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Social structures are a human's bread and butter. We are wired to want and need social contact. Why else do we care about marraige and friends?
Online social networks such as diigo and twitter provide us with something valuable that grows over time. Whuffie online mirrors Whuffie in face to face activities. Do good and communicate, and you gain from the interest and help of others.
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