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alisonseamanCurious about the Dunbar Number principle (that groups need to be around 150 to thrive)? A great, clarifying article: http://t.co/4erdRiSkUm
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Dunbar is an anthropologist at the University College of London, who wrote a paper on Co-Evolution Of Neocortex Size, Group Size And Language In Humans
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he predicts that 147.8 is the "mean group size" for humans
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This number of 150 has become "Dunbar's Number" and has been popularized by various very popular business books such as Malcolm Gladwell's The Tipping Poin
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Ultima Online
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that most groups are around 60 large.
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It is rare to have more than 40 or so active participants in an Allegiance.
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150-200 active users. However, whenever it grew beyond that number, it always seemed that politics and dissatisfaction would bubble up such that people would drop out, leaving us back close to 150 or 160
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Dunbarrian social limits
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achievement-oriented game
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I've already noted the next chasm when you go beyond 80 people, which I think is the point that Dunbar's Number actually marks for a non-survival oriented group
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Essentially, as we increase group sizes beyond 80, to 150, 200, or even 350-500, we typically do so by breaking larger groups down into smaller ones, and continually reducing community sizes down to the point where they can be understood and managed by people -- and so efficiency reasserts itself.
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Marie Eve BerlingerNombre de Dunbar dans diverses sphères de la vie.
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Cy ColLately I've been noticing the spread of a meme regarding "Dunbar's Number" of 150 that I believe is misunderstanding of his ideas. (post continues with a discussion of Dunbar's Number, the size of groups, some empirical and anecdotal experience with sizes of groups.
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Andy TeddMakes some good points going beyond taking Dunbar's number at face value
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Alejandro TortoliniEl numero de Dunbar como limite al tamaño de los grupos. Algunos lo empiezan a plicar a las redes sociales.
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Gabriela GrosseckUltima Online provides one of the best examples of what sizes an online community will support because it's well documented and the overall game size is large enough to generate many smaller communities. If you look at Raph Koster's statistics for the siz
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Christopher AllenBLOGPOST: "This all leads me to hypothesize that the optimal size for active group members for creative and technical groups -- as opposed to exclusively survival-oriented groups, such as villages -- hovers somewhere between 25-80, but is best around 45-50. Anything more than this and the group has to spend too much time "grooming" to keep group cohesion, rather then focusing on why the people want to spend the effort on that group in the first place -- say to deliver a software product, learn a technology, promote a meme, or have fun playing a game. Anything less than this and you risk losing critical mass because you don't have requisite variety."
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Steven FarrellNexus: Small Worlds and the Groundbreaking Science of Networks
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my serendipitiesfor a group to sustain itself at the size of 150, significantly more effort must be spent on the core socialization which is necessary to keep the group functioning. Some organizations will have sufficient incentive to maintain this high level of required
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Larry HawesLately (March 2004!) I've been noticing the spread of a meme regarding "Dunbar's Number" of 150 that I believe is misunderstanding of his ideas.
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Luis OopshRevisiting Dunbar's Number
Lately, Dunbar's number has been taken as a mean size for online networks and groups, as shown in Ross Mayfield's Weblog, where he states:basic rebasic gen i-g prayandblogs julio redes comunicasocial softsocial comunidad
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Antonio Perez... there is a cognitive limit to the number of individuals with whom any one person can maintain stable relationships, that this limit is a direct function of relative neocortex size, and that this in turn limits group size ... the limit imposed by neoco
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coachrobboDunbar supports this hypothesis through studies by a number of field anthropologists. These studies measure the group size of a variety of different primates; Dunbar then correlate those group sizes to the brain sizes of the primates to produce a mathemat
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This all leads me to hypothesize that the optimal size for active group members for creative and technical groups -- as opposed to exclusively survival-oriented groups, such as villages -- hovers somewhere between 25-80, but is best around 45-50. Anything more than this and the group has to spend too much time "grooming" to keep group cohesion, rather then focusing on why the people want to spend the effort on that group in the first place --
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paul jonesUsing guilds in Ultima and other online cooperative groups, LWA tries to get at what size limits upper and lower might apply to online relationships and brings up satisfaction as a factor (with an imaginative chart -- that is not data-driven). Worth a not
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Barbara LindseyGreat post about the possible repercussions of the Dunbar Number to online interactions
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Mike StenhouseIt is rare to have more than 40 or so active participants in an Allegiance.
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unbar is an anthropologist at the University College of London, who wrote a paper on Co-Evolution Of Neocortex Size, Group Size And Language In Humans where he hypothesizes: ... there is a cognitive limit to the number of individuals with whom any one person can maintain stable relationships, that this limit is a direct function of relative neocortex size, and that this in turn limits group size ... the limit imposed by neocortical processing capacity is simply on the number of individuals with whom a stable inter-personal relationship can be maintained.
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Rayne Todaydiscussion of Dunbar's hypothesis that 150 is a cognitive limit to effective group size
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Alan LevineLately I've been noticing the spread of a meme regarding "Dunbar's Number" of 150 that I believe is misunderstanding of his ideas.
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Dunbar & Online Communities Ultima Online provides one of the best examples of what sizes an online community will support because it's well documented and the overall game size is large enough to generate many smaller communities. If you look at Raph Koster's statistics for the size of groups in Ultima Online, you will see a definite point of diminishing returns at around 150; however, you will also see that most groups are around 60 large.
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Lynne BEssentially, as we increase group sizes, we typically do so by breaking larger groups down into smaller ones, and continually reducing community sizes down to the point where they can be understood and managed by people - and efficiency reasserts itself.
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richtbreakA good discussion of Dunbar's number and its sometimes incorrect application.
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Howard SilvermanThis number of 150 has become "Dunbar's Number" and has been
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