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Joseph MorninWe evolved in a world where our survival depended on an intimate knowledge of our surroundings. This is still true, but our surroundings have grown. We are now trying to comprehend the global village with minds that were designed to handle a patch of savanna and a close circle of friends. Our problem is not so much that we are stupider, but rather that the world is demanding that we become smarter. Forced to be broad, we sacrifice depth. We skim, we summarize, we skip the fine print and, all too often, we miss the fine point. We know we are drowning, but we do what we can to stay afloat. — W. Daniel Hillis
[The July/August issue of Atlantic Monthly features a cover story by Nicholas Carr: "Is Google Making Us Stupid: What The Internet is doing to Our Brains". Carr is author of the recently published The Big Switch: Rewiring the world, from Edison to Google and a blogger: Rough Type. He is also an Edge contributor.
Danny Hillis disagrees with his argument. Here is Hillis's comment was an interesting Edge Reality Club discussion, cross-referenced with a discussion on the Encyclopedia Britannica website. —JB]
ON "IS GOOGLE MAKING US STUPID"
By Nicholas Carr
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Even when I'm not working, I'm as likely as not to be foraging in the Web's info-thickets—reading and writing e-mails, scanning headlines and blog posts, watching videos and listening to podcasts, or just tripping from link to link to link.
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For me, as for others, the Net is becoming a universal medium, the conduit for most of the information that flows through my eyes and ears and into my mind
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My mind now expects to take in information the way the Net distributes it:
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Nicholas Carr is correct in noticing that something is "Making us Stupid", but it is not Google. Think of Google as a life preserver, thrown to us in a rising flood. True, we use it to stay on the surface, but it is not for the sake of laziness. It is for survival.
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predicament.
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nding that we become smarter. Forced to be broad, we sacrifice depth. We skim, we summarize, we skip the fine print and, all too often, we miss the fine point. W
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Is Google making us stupid?
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Carr begins his piece describing how smarter he is while using Google. What if Carr is right? What if we were getting dumber when we are off Google, but we were getting loads smarter while we were on Google?
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Question is, do you get off Google or stay on all the time?
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True, we use it to stay on the surface, but it is not for the sake of laziness. It is for survival
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is an autonomous process that will proceed in its chosen direction independently of us.
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The problem with the Internet medium (or strength, as Malcolm Gladwell would argue) is how it pushes us towards "thin-slicing" or grazing information rather than digging in more deeply and considering it. Like
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At least I would.
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Blink: The Power of Thinking Without Thinking?
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Katie Daydiscussion on EDGE.org re Nicholas Carr's articlein The Atlantic Jul/Aug 2008 re literacy and the internet...
literacy online reading edge google future imported_from_delicious 21stcenturylearning
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Lisa Spiro[The July/August issue of Atlantic Monthly features a cover story by Nicholas Carr: "Is Google Making Us Stupid: What The Internet is doing to Our Brains". Carr is author of the recently published The Big Switch: Rewiring the world, from Edison to Google and a blogger: Rough Type. He is also an Edge contributor.
Danny Hillis disagrees with his argument. Here is Hillis's comment was an interesting Edge Reality Club discussion, cross-referenced with a discussion on the Encyclopedia Britannica website. —JB]reading googlebooks literary_research_course information_overload
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ken .Carr's provocative piece draws nice responses - evolved to adapt to our surroundings which adapt in turn, complex ideas, books and stories - very requisite variety, technology creating new problems, scrolls, fish, transitions, effects seeking cause/blame
attention books change crisis communication complexity culture edge google information knowledge po progress social story technology
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Howard RheingoldWe are now trying to comprehend the global village with minds that were designed to handle a patch of savanna and a close circle of friends. Our problem is not so much that we are stupider, but rather that the world is demanding that we become smarter.
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We evolved in a world where our survival depended on an intimate knowledge of our surroundings. This is still true, but our surroundings have grown. We are now trying to comprehend the global village with minds that were designed to handle a patch of savanna and a close circle of friends. Our problem is not so much that we are stupider, but rather that the world is demanding that we become smarter. Forced to be broad, we sacrifice depth. We skim, we summarize, we skip the fine print and, all too often, we miss the fine point. We know we are drowning, but we do what we can to stay afloat. — W. Daniel Hillis
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[The July/August issue of Atlantic Monthly features a cover story by Nicholas Carr: "Is Google Making Us Stupid: What The Internet is doing to Our Brains".
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Danny Hillis disagrees with his argument. Here is Hillis's comment was an interesting Edge Reality Club discussion, cross-referenced with a discussion on the Encyclopedia Britannica website. —JB]
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ATLANTIC MONTHLY
July/August 2008What the Internet is doing to our brains
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the Net is becoming a universal medium, the conduit for most of the information that flows through my eyes and ears and into my mind.
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But that boon comes at a price.
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And what the Net seems to be doing is chipping away my capacity for concentration and contemplation.
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When I mention my troubles with reading to friends and acquaintances—literary types, most of them—many say they're having similar experiences. The more they use the Web, the more they have to fight to stay focused on long pieces of writing.
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W.DANIEL HILLIS [7.10.08]
Nicholas Carr is correct in noticing that something is "Making us Stupid", but it is not Google. Think of Google as a life preserver, thrown to us in a rising flood. True, we use it to stay on the surface, but it is not for the sake of laziness. It is for survival.
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Fast communication, powerful media and superficial skimming are all creations of our insatiable demand for information.
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It is not just that the world has gotten more complicated (it has), but rather that more of the world has become relevant.
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LARRY SANGER [7.11.08]
Carr's essay is interesting, but his aim is off.
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he is wrong to present the problem as a collective, techno-social one, beyond our individual control, a problem to be blamed on programmers, and treated mainly by social psychologists or technocrats rather than by the philosophers and humanists.
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But, as Carr points out, the information revolution itself makes it too easy for us to shrink our attention even more than before and follow the crowd.
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But ultimately we have no one to blame but ourselves for this. If some of us no longer seem to be able to read a book all the way through, it isn't because of Google or the vast quantity of information on the Internet.
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GEORGE DYSON [7.11.08]
Nicholas Carr asks a question that all of us should be asking ourselves:
"What if the cost of machines that think is people who don't?"
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We will certainly lose some treasured ways of thinking but the next generation will replace them with something new. The present generation has no childhood immunity to web-based stupidity but future generations will.
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We evolved in a world where our survival depended on an intimate knowledge of our surroundings. This is still true, but our surroundings have grown.
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I do not mean to suggest that all the information we gather is for civic purposes. That I need to know more to do my job goes without saying, but I also need to know more just to have friends. I manage to get by without knowing exactly why Paris Hilton is famous, but I cannot fully participate in society without knowing that she is well known. Of course, my own social clan has its own Charlie Rose version of celebrities, complete with must-read books, must-understand ideas, and must-see films. I am expected to have an opinion about the latest piece in The Atlantic or the New Yorker. Actually, I need to learn more just to understand the cartoons.
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We evolved in a world where our survival depended on an intimate knowledge of our surroundings. This is still true, but our surroundings have grown. We are now trying to comprehend the global village with minds that were designed to handle a patch of savanna and a close circle of friends. Our problem is not so much that we are stupider, but rather that the world is demanding that we become smarter. Forced to be broad, we sacrifice depth. We skim, we summarize, we skip the fine print and, all too often, we miss the fine point. We know we are drowning, but we do what we can to stay afloat.
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We will certainly lose some treasured ways of thinking but the next generation will replace them with something new.
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Olivier Le Deuffle débat sur l'article de Carr.
Intéressant de retrouver quelques partisans des folksonomies. D'une certaine manière, c'est le débat entre modernes et anciens, entre technophiles et technophobes. Le débat est donc ailleurs sur la nécessaire distance critique. -
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Jennifer Maddrelljm: via brian lamb Fine range of responses so far...
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Mark TracyI really like what Danny Hillis writes about our world expanding, having to keep up and as a consequence losing depth.
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The problem with the Internet medium (or strength, as Malcolm Gladwell would argue) is how it pushes us towards "thin-slicing" or grazing information rather than digging in more deeply and considering it. Like a New Yorker piece that gives people the self-congratulatory and ultimately reassuring tidbits they need to discuss an issue at a cocktail party, the Web feeds in more bite-size doses.
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