However, Azande say that it is only a tradition that they learnt to smelt and work iron from others, for they have practised these skills for a very long time. So, even if they learnt them from others, it was so long ago that most of what they now fashion in iron may be said to be part of their indigenous material culture: spears, knives, throwing-knives, hoes, axes, hammers, rings for wrists, arms and ankles, hair-pins, beads, rattles, etc.