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    • Angel, who has cyclothymia, has been in a mixed episode for several days now. It was manageable for the first few days...but then one night, she got really bad and sped around on the freeway, alternatively singing along to the radio and screaming/sobbing. Then she came back to the dorms, stayed for five minutes, couldn't handle it, and then went back out and did it again.
    • We found out though that Angel has better depth perception than I do. Mine is terrible...whenever I park in the parking garage here, I always park an inch from the wall. It looks like a foot to me. Angel doesn't have this problem. It's the weirdest thing to us, since we almost never encounter something like this. We know other systems do, though.

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    • Does anyone have alters that run? That run away I mean? That decide they no longer want any responsibility and run away from home, much like a teen would?
    • And does anyone have alters that hide? What does it mean when an alter comes out, and hides the body, stops using the computer, shuts things down and attempts to just...hide? Anyone have theories?
    • TRIGGER WARING*
      One of the younger alters had bad dream lest night and is now just crying all the time. I was able to pash my way out so we can talk but now she is not talking to anyone.
    • All we know is she had bad dream and ran out Anastasia tried to talk to her but she is to scared. She thinks something really bad is going to happen.

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    • Does anyone else on here have synesthesia? We do, and it's really woven into the system.
    • If you don't know what synesthesia is, it's a neurological condition where the senses are connected when they normally aren't. People with synesthesia may see color when they hear music, for example. Or they may associate personalities or genders with numbers or letters. There are tons of different types, though, and it's a fascinating condition if you look it up a little.

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    • My husband whom has DID is wondering if those who are the host while they are on the outside at times hear voices which are at times higher than other times but when he goes in there is no one talking so he thinks it's their thoughts.
    • Has anyone else experienced something like that? If so, how do you stop them, or is it possible?

      Then if you hear their thoughts do you also have an impulse to repeat what they are saying?

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    • been having some bad arguments. pretty tired and low. there was a bad screaming match earlier involving someone trying to tell the GF to go away and leave forever though i'm not really sure why now, i know i feel like i keep on hurting her because i'm pretty non-functional a lot of the time and she is finding it really difficult, and i don't want to keep upsetting her.
    • we had to go do some shopping this afternoon; in the store i kept having these overwhelming urges to break things, which is new. sometimes in arguments i go into a blurry rage state and punch walls, don't really know how to combat it because my emotions overload and i lose control. this was different though; it felt like a child wanting to act out, but i haven't felt this before from the child-states.

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    •  Dissociative Identity Disorder (formerly Multiple Personality ... 

      1 Dissociative Identity Disorder (formerly Multiple Personality Disorder) Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), previously referred to as multiple personality

       http://www.nami.org/Content/Microsites270/NAMI_Howard_County/Home258/Mental_Illness_Information1/DissociativeIdentityDisorder.pdf
    •  Guidelines for Treating Dissociative Identity Disorder in ... 

      This article was downloaded by: [208.78.151.82] On: 21 October 2011, At: 09:20 Publisher: Routledge Informa Ltd Registered in England and Wales Registered Number ...

       http://www.isst-d.org/downloads/GUIDELINES_REVISED2011.pdf

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    • My child (16) is overwhelmed with something. So alt A (protector) tries to come out to fix it. Alt B prevents alt A from coming out fully ( alt A sucks at parenting) - Alt B does a great job of engaging and equipping the child to calm herself down. Alt B continues to act on behalf of the child which requires talking to a school counselor on the telephone and several emails.
    • All is well. Then after all this has passed and everything certainly is okay I remember being sad, overwhelmed and wanting to cry?

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    • It's only been a couple of months since I've come to grips with the world inside of me. Fortunately , for me I was around people that knew about the disorder and tell me what was happening. I wasn't so much surprised that they were there, but why?
    • I did my own homework as well. Finding out that this disorder is a coping mechanism for those of us who have it. I thought "whoa how cool is that , that my mind could split apart like that to preserve me from trauma! How awesome is God, who created our minds in the first place".

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    • October 31st, Halloween. A time to cash in on patient angst is Big Business for psychotherapists, drug companies and hospitals as I will explain in this post. What you will read below is not my academic conclusions or my distorted and naive understanding of what occurs for patients who believe they have multiple personalities due to being ritually tortured as a child. Instead, you will read about what I experienced while a patient. My psychiatrist convinced me that I was ritually abused as a child. In short, I’ve been there – done that. This is what I and other patients I knew experienced during the Halloween holidays – every year.
    • Psychotherapists treating women for multiple personalities after diagnosing them with Dissociative Identity Disorder is shameful because their patients routinely regress into a heap of emotions and new memories of child abuse that may also include ritual abuse and on the far extreme, satanic ritual abuse.

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    • I am worried about my child. He's 9 and ever since was little, he always acted like a different person from day to day and hour to hour. One day, he's acting like a pirate. Another day, he's Peter Pan. I've seen him act like a lion, spiderman, batman, transformers, toad, x-men, etc. It gets even worst when he's around his friends and they would pretend to be power rangers. I don't know what's going on here...I feel like i'm losing my child. I'm afraid that if I go out and tell people, they may think i'm not a good parent...that something is wrong with me. What should I do?
    • In this I am talking about borderline PD, not bipolar, but feel free to stray if you want :) (If we break each of us down, we all fit different diagnoses - some of us don't fit any!).

      Many DID people have a dual diagnosis with BPD, or were misdiagnosed as BPD.
    • We were misdiagnosed in the past (I am like the opposite of BPD - we even got kicked out of DBT for not being impulsive/for doing as we were told!), although niva might fit it (her personality is stable, and she doesn't have dramatic relationships, but she's very intense, has abandonment issues, used to harm the body, and of course is prone to dissociation under stress..)

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    • For the past year I have been bad enough with splitting and dissociation to warrant calling myself a multiple. If I'm honest with myself, I experienced dissociation before. Mostly in the form of - then unnamed - child selves.
    • But it didn't get this bad before "Josh". One day I just decided I was male, and I went with it, and wanted to go along with transitioning. Then more alters started to show up, and more, and more, more splitting, more selves, and I gave more of them names. I have been "Josh" for almost a year.

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    • Welcome to the Trauma and Dissociation project. We welcome and encourage editors to join with us in creating a wealth of information about the mental disorders caused by trauma.
    • The mask represents the normal face that traumatizedindividuals present to the world; behind the mask are the parts of the personalitywho struggle with one another.
        The demons represent the shame and issues that can occur; the lightning strikes the attacks against the self. The train carries the healed toward paradise while the unhealed looks on, stuck in their nightmare setting.

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    • i, I am new here too and to any real certainty that I may have alters. I understand the freaking out. As I read on the DID forum, I am both relieved and afraid -appauled and drawn to.
    • I have been dx with bpd with my last therapist and have had the screaming in my head and crying for a couple years and finally started telling my current therapist about this anger (screaming) and sadness

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    • When you are in a crisis, with a lot of unnoticed/uncontrollable switching, influencing, and feeling really spacey and disoriented/sucked inside/confused, would you recommend continuing your public activities? I mean, if we would not continue doing them, we'll be more isolated and kept in a sort of spiral maybe? But if we would, we could make a huge fool out of myself which would definitely not help and maybe make sure we wont have the courage to go back to that activity at all anymore.
    • We were trying to think about something today. We have been told by our doctor that our hears are working ok and the body is hearing.
      So why can we not hear?
      Is it normal for alters to be Daef and the body to be Hearing?
      Is it linked to the DID?
      We do not understand what is going on.
      None of us can hear.
  • Oct 05, 13

    A Girl Not Named Sybil
    By DEBBIE NATHAN
    Published: October 14, 2011
    By the New York Times

    On the couch she talked about her old feelings of loneliness, her simultaneous sense of superiority and worthlessness, her puzzling body aches. After several sessions with Wilbur, the insomnia worsened and so did her menstrual pain. To treat these problems, Wilbur wrote prescriptions for powerful drugs: Seconal to help her sleep, Daprisal for her cramps. Seconal was later determined to be habit-forming (it is now typically prescribed for no longer than two weeks) and Daprisal eventually proved so addictive that it was yanked from the market. Many doctors prescribed these drugs in the 1950s, but Wilbur sometimes gave Mason higher doses of her medications than was customary.

    Wilbur was astounded. She believed Mason was experiencing what were known as fugue states, a condition she treated in her very first patient in 1940. A person suffering from a fugue state left home for hours, days or even weeks, and behaved like someone else entirely. Fugue states were a rare form of hysteria caused by dissociation. From Wilbur’s point of view, they were also spectacular.

    Wilbur decided that she would have to psychoanalyze not just Shirley but Peggy Ann, Peggy Lou and Vicky. She vowed to treat her patient no matter how much time it took. The treatment would be given on credit.


    “It’s like love, and love hurts,” Vicky answered. “When people love you they hit you this way and this way with the knuckles and they slap you.”

    Trauma. Finally. Vicky had more. “And they put flashlights in you and bottles out of little silver boxes and they put a blanket over your face and hold a light over. You can’t breathe and it hurts and you kick and you can’t move.”

    Who had done it? Wilbur figured it was Mason’s mother, Mattie — after all, as many psychiatrists and psychoanalysts believed in the 1950s, people with emotional problems were almost always hurt by their mothers. Wilbur began to suspect that Mattie Mason was a paranoid schizophrenic.

    Wilbur frequently made house calls, even on evenings and weekends. Sometimes she crawled into bed with Mason to administer electric shocks with a special machine. She helped Mason financially by trying to sell her paintings. She also offered to get her into medical school and pay her tuition and living expenses. One day she approached her about doing a book on her most special patient. Mason agreed to participate.

    The therapy continued for years. It included regular sodium pentothal injections, though psychiatrists in the 1950s knew the drug was addictive. It eventually dawned on Wilbur that Mason was becoming dependent on the drug. But when she tried to stop administering pentothal, Mason became frantic. She spent hours scolding, cajoling and groveling, on the phone and in single-spaced typed letters. She began to sprout additional alters.

    “I am not going to tell you there isn’t anything wrong,” the letter continued. “But it is not what I have led you to believe. . . . I do not have any multiple personalities. . . . I do not even have a ‘double.’ . . . I am all of them. I have been essentially lying.”

    Mason was the most important patient in Wilbur’s professional career. She was preserving the tape-recorded narcosynthesis interviews she was doing with Mason and preparing to speak about the case at professional meetings. Wilbur told her patient that the recantation was “a major defensive maneuver,” merely the ego’s attempt to trick itself into thinking it didn’t need therapy. But Mason did need it, badly, Wilbur insisted. She was denying that she’d been tortured by her mother; this showed she really had been tortured.

    Mason would eventually give up pentothal. She would give up her alters (Wilbur pronounced her “cured” in 1965). She would even give up her connections to family and friends, going into hiding after “Sybil” was published. But she could not give up Dr. Wilbur.


    This article is adapted from “Sybil Exposed: The Extraordinary Story Behind the Famous Multiple Personality Case,” by Debbie Nathan, to be published this month by the Free Press.

    Editor: Sheila Glaser

    • I used to believe that MPD was a real phenomenon—the mind can indeed do strange things—but it increasingly seems like a hox. I had a tab with a great summary of the situation—an article by a psychiatrist in the US who was alarmed to see that in the UK diagnoses of MPD are still common. The article was extremely good, but Chrome crashed and “Restore” didn’t work and no matter how I skim “history” I cannot find it. So it goes.
    • And Google was of little help, though it did uncover this article in the NY Times Magazine by Debbie Nathan a couple of years ago:

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    • Hi everyone. I have a problem, I don’t know what to do, and I can’t talk to my T because she’s out of town for two weeks.
    • I used to be able to communicate with other multiples, but for the past couple of months, I literally can’t. I used to post here a bit. Then I stopped being able to be open and sharing, and went to just lurking. Then I stopped even being able to lurk.

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    • I wake up tired all the time. Since I can remember I've always had sleep problems. I'll stay awake for days if I don't take my medication. But sometimes it still doesn't help.
    • ut well I'm wondering if it's because of an alter. The little girl only "comes out" at night. (There's been a few times where she'll come out for a minute/talk to me, during the day time.) But she normally only fully "comes out" when it's dark and no one is around/up. So I'm here all day, then she wants out at night (when I need to sleep).

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