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isabella R's List: Love, Sex and Sanity-Thought on Compassion, Morality and God by those who actually think before speaking

  • Oct 01, 12

    In the conversations centered around such tragedies as the recent Jamey Rodemeyer suicide (see Christians and the Blood of Jamey Rodemeyer), we very often find conservative Christians defending themselves against the accusation that the theology in which they believe-and specifically their belief that homosexuality is a sin against God-ultimately contributes to that which informs, motivates, and encourages the bullying of gay teens. In this short (made with the free online tools available at xtranormal.com), two Christians discuss that very issue.

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  • Sep 29, 12

    bilgrimage.blogspot.com/...rites-theres-rich-vein-of.html marriage equality

      • Much that's awry with the Standard Model has to do precisely with its insularity, its blessing of the unquestioned "right" of a heterosexually married couple and the children they raise to separate themselves from society in general, if they so wish, solely because they're a married couple and/or family.  Much that's awry with the Standard Model has to do with its obsessive focus on the nuclear family, as distinct from the extended family or of society and social institutions in general conceived as extended family

    • Much that's awry with the Standard Model has to do with its obsessive focus on the nuclear family, as distinct from the extended family or of society and social institutions in general conceived as extended family

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  • Oct 01, 12

    Virtually all sins share a crucial, defining, common quality. Because that quality, which is present in every other imaginable sin, is utterly missing from being or acting gay, insisting on putting homosexuality into the same category as every other sin is like gluing wings on a pig, and insisting it belongs in the category of "bird." It doesn't. It can't. It won't. Ever.




    Here is that Big Difference between homosexuality and other sins: There is no sin I can commit that, by virtue of committing it, renders me incapable of loving or being loved. I can commit murder. I can steal. I can rob. I can rape. I can drink myself to death. I can do any terrible thing at all---and no one would ever claim that intrinsic to the condition that gave rise to my doing that terrible thing is that I am, by nature, simply incapable of giving or receiving love.

    www.huffingtonpost.com/...ing-gay-like-glu_b_747071.html John Shore homosexuality religion homophobia Roman Catholic christianity

    • Virtually all sins share a crucial, defining, common quality. Because that quality, which is present in every other imaginable sin, is utterly missing from being or acting gay, insisting on putting homosexuality into the same category as every other sin is like gluing wings on a pig, and insisting it belongs in the category of "bird." It doesn't. It can't. It won't. Ever.

        

      Here is that Big Difference between homosexuality and other sins: There is no sin I can commit that, by virtue of committing it, renders me incapable of loving or being loved. I can commit murder. I can steal. I can rob. I can rape. I can drink myself to death. I can do any terrible thing at all---and no one would ever claim that intrinsic to the condition that gave rise to my doing that terrible thing is that I am, by nature, simply incapable of giving or receiving love.

  • Oct 01, 12

    God does not ask us to choose between compassion and faith in the Bible.

    If there is no clearly stated directive in the Bible to marginalize and ostracize gay people, then Christians continuing to do so is morally indefensible, and must cease.

    What cannot be denied is that Christians have caused a great deal of pain and suffering to gay persons, by:




    Banning their participation in the church, thus depriving them of the comforts and spiritual fruits of the church;
    Banning their participation in the sacrament of marriage, thus depriving them of the comforts and spiritual fruits of marriage;
    Damaging the bonds between gays and their straight family members, thus weakening the comforts and spiritual fruits of family life for both gays and their families; and
    Using their position within society as spokespersons for God to proclaim that all homosexual relations are disdained by God, thus knowingly contributing to the cruel persecution of a minority population.
    Christians do not deny that they have done these things. However, they contend that they have no choice but to do these things, based on what they say is a clear directive about homosexuals delivered to them by God through the Holy Bible. They say that the Bible defines all homosexual acts as sinful, instructs them to exclude from full participation in the church all non-repentant sinners (including gay people), and morally calls upon them to publicly (or at least resolutely) denounce homosexual acts.

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    • God does not ask us to choose between compassion and faith in the Bible.

    • Even a sin as heinous as murder we do not judge without first taking into account the context in which it occurred. Self-defense, protection of the innocent, during a war—we recognize that there are times when even taking the life of another is not only not a sin, but a morally justified, and even heroic act.

       

      Christians evaluate the degree of sin, or even whether or not a real sin has occurred, by looking at both the harm caused by the sin, and the intent of the sin’s perpetrator.

       

      They do, that is, for all sins except homosexuality.

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