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18 Oct 09

Cryptomundo » Devil Monkey: Belt Road Booger

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Devil Monkey: Belt Road Booger
Posted by: Loren Coleman on October 15th, 2009
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- There is no secret to the fact that the ridicule curtain is lowered a bit every October, and that creature stories are actively pursued by the media as the calendar nears Halloween.
- But who would have guessed that an old “Devil Monkey” case would be revealed in 2009?
- Cryptozoological topics, naturally, are good ones to investigate this time of year for local newspaper writers, and sometimes little known ones are discovered.
- Devil Monkey © Loren Coleman and Patrick Huyghe 1999, 2006; © Harry Trumbore 1999, 2006.
- One such subject popped up this week in the guise of the “Belt Road Booger.” (Booger is a local Southern word for a strange creature, an unknown animal, a ghostly figure, and/or a haunt.)
- eff Bishop wrote the 2009 story for The Times-Herald, for his little town in the bottomlands.
- The Newnan Herald was Georgia’s first newspaper after Civil War, and the outcome, The Times-Herald, which was started as a sideline by two Newnan (Coweta County, Georgia) lawyers in the days after the Civil War ended, has existed now for 143 years.
- Bishop, digging in the archives, found a thirty-year old series of stories that seemed appropriate for the weeks before Halloween.
- In old issues of The Times-Herald, the reporter stumbled across front-page articles with headlines like the one dated August 9, 1979, “Strange Creature Seen Here.”
  
  “Move over, Sasquatch, Bigfoot, the Abominable Snowman and the Loch Ness Monster — make room for the Belt Road Booger!” the story screamed.
- Bishop wrote:
  
  Several sightings of a “monster” sighted on Belt Road near the intersection of West Washington Street were reported that week.
- “It was dark. It stands about five feet tall. It’s big across the chest. Its eyes look like diamonds at night when you shine a light on them,” was how one local woman described the “monster.”
- The creature was reported to have “a face like a monkey and a long bushy tail.”
- The Newnan Police Department investigated the incident but found nothing.
- The creature was “alleged to have eaten the inside of an apple, leaving only the peeling, and to have bitten a hunk out of an ear of corn.” It was also supposed to have climbed into a barn in the neighborhood, and some local children speculated that he slept in some junked cars in the woods near Belt Road.
- The Belt Road Booger was spotted again in the Meadowview subdivision near Arnco, described by one local resident as “the ugliest looking thing I’ve ever seen.”
- She described the animal as standing between 4 and 5 feet tall, and it was covered with black hair and a tail “like a beaver’s, but it’s bushy,” with “a face like a dog.”
  
  She said the creature dug into her flowers and tried to kill her calladiums.
- Sightings were reported in the following weeks in the Smokey Road and Ishman Ballard Road areas, and then later at Sargent. Then reports began to become less frequent, and the Belt Road Booger was seemingly forgotten.
- Bishop found that sightings appeared to return in April 2005, with the re-naming of the thing seen as the “Happy Valley Horror.”
- An avid hunter and outdoorsman, very familiar with local wildlife described “an enormous … very hairy” beast walking upright in a field on Happy Valley Circle. He thought it was Bigfoot.
- Then in August 2005, a skeptical Happy Valley Circle resident, Donna Robards, told of how her family saw the creatures in late August 2005. They described them as “big and hairy and walking upright,” but it wasn’t a bear “because the face was flat and didn’t have a snout like a bear.”
- On August 25, a pair was seen, with the larger of the two creatures being 8 feet tall and covered with coarse black hair. The other was a foot shorter and its hair was reddish-brown in color.
- In recognition of the 30th anniversary of the creature’s initial appearance, The Times-Herald appears to be gathering new stories and planning an update.
- Clearly, the “dog-faced” case from 1979 is different than the sightings from 2005.
- For hominologists, these stories fit into the diverse context of the “Devil Monkeys” reports from the South.
- The tail and head, of course, in the 1979 accounts, speak to something other than an ape or your typical Bigfoot described four years ago. But reports like these are nothing new.
- One case summarized in my field guide involves a “giant monkey” encounter in June 1953, in the Gosainkund Pass, Nepal.
- George Moore, M.D. and his companion, George K. Brooks, came face to face with what they took to be Abominable Snowmen, while they were on a medical mission in the area.
- Of course, Yetis don’t have long tails, but then normal monkeys aren’t man-sized and walk towards you in a misty valley in Nepal, either.
- The Moore-Brooks sighting, a strange story indeed, involved two credible eyewitnesses. It remains a mystery of the Himalayas, as much as the Belt Road Booger is in Georgia.

11 Oct 09

YouTube - Steven Quayle talks Ufos, Aliens, Giants, and their relation to current global affairs pt.6

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Steven Quayle talks Ufos, Aliens, Giants, and their relation to current global affairs pt.6
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04 Oct 09

Doc Holliday - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Due to lack of evidence, Colorado refused to extradite him, although he spent the last two weeks of that month in jail while the issue was decided.
After the vendetta ride, neither Holliday nor any other member of the party ever returned to Arizona to live.
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- In May 1882, Holliday was arrested in Denver for the Stilwell killing.
- He and Wyatt met again in June 1882 in Gunnison after he was released.
- There is controversy regarding whether any of the Earp vendetta posse slipped briefly back to the Tombstone area to kill Johnny Ringo on July 13, 1882. Biographers of Ringo do not believe it is very likely.
- Several other known gunmen were also implicated in the death, including "Buckskin" Frank Leslie, little known gunman Lou Cooley, and gambler Mike O'Rourke. Some believe, however, that Ringo's death was in fact a suicide, as reported.
- Final Illness, Death & Burial
- After a stay in Leadville, he suffered from the effects of the high altitude; as a result of this and his increasing dependence on alcohol and laudanum, often taken by consumptives to ease their symptoms, his health, and evidently his gambling skills, began to deteriorate.
- Holliday spent the rest of his life in Colorado.
- He hoped to take advantage of the reputed curative power of the waters, but the sulfurous fumes from the spring may have done his lungs more harm than good.
- In 1887, prematurely gray and badly ailing, Holliday made his way to the Hotel Glenwood near the hot springs of Glenwood Springs, Colorado.
- As he lay dying, Holliday allegedly asked for a drink of whiskey. Amused, he looked at his bootless feet as he died — no one ever thought that he would die in bed, with his boots off.
- His reputed last words were, "Well I'll be damned. This is funny."
- John Henry "Doc" Holliday died November 8, 1887. He was 36.
- Recent Holliday biographer Gary L. Roberts, however, considers it unlikely that Holliday, who had scarcely left his bed for two months, would have been able to speak coherently, if at all, on the day he died.^[9]
- Despite legend, Wyatt Earp was certainly not present when Holliday died, and did not know of his death until months afterward.
- Though she later attested to attending him in his final days, it is also highly doubtful that Big Nose Kate was present at his death.
- An Episcopalian minister presided at Holliday's burial, which was on the day of his death, Nov. 8, 1887.
- His gravestone sits in Linwood cemetery, which overlooks Glenwood Springs.
- Entirely on the basis of the late date in the year, it has been speculated (for example)^[10] that he was not actually buried in his marked grave, or even in the cemetery itself, on the theory that the ground was frozen and he must have been buried the same day in what was probably a temporary grave, not in the old cemetery, which was up a difficult road on the mountain.
- However, the weather was evidently mild at the time of Holliday's burial, as biographer Gary Roberts has located evidence of other bodies being transported up the mountain to the same cemetery at the same time in 1887.^[11]
- Roberts argues that it is thus possible Holliday's body is indeed where the modern gravesite is, but no exhumation has been attempted.
- Character
- In an 1896 article, Wyatt Earp had this to say about Holliday, "Doc was a dentist not a lawman or an assassin, whom necessity had made a gambler; a gentleman whom disease had made a frontier vagabond; a philosopher whom life had made a caustic wit; a long lean ash-blond fellow nearly dead with consumption, and at the same time the most skillful gambler and the nerviest, speediest, deadliest man with a six-gun that I ever knew."^[12]
- Wyatt Earp is also quoted as saying: "I found him a loyal friend and good company."^[13]
- In a newspaper interview, Holliday was once asked if his killings had ever gotten on his conscience. He is reported to have said, "I coughed that out with my lungs, years ago."
- Big Nose Kate, his long-time companion, remembered Holliday's reaction after his role in the O.K. Corral gunfight. She reported that Holliday came back to his room, sat on the bed, wept and said, "that was awful — awful".
- Virgil Earp, interviewed May 30, 1882, in The Arizona Daily Star (two months after Virgil had fled Tombstone after Morgan Earp's death), summed up Holliday:
- There was something very peculiar about Doc. He was gentlemanly, a good dentist, a friendly man and yet, outside of us boys, I don't think he had a friend in the Territory. Tales were told that he had murdered men in different parts of the country; that he had robbed and committed all manner of crimes, and yet, when persons were asked how they knew it, they could only admit it was hearsay, and that nothing of the kind could really be traced to Doc's account. He was a slender, sickly fellow, but whenever a stage was robbed or a row started, and help was needed, Doc was one of the first to saddle his horse and report for duty.
- Record of violence
- Although historical accounts have usually supported the belief that Holliday was extremely fast with a pistol, his accuracy was less than perfect.
- In three of his four known pistol fights, he shot one opponent (Billy Allen) in the arm, one (Charles White) across the scalp, and missed one man (a saloon keeper named Charles Austin) entirely.
- In an early incident in Tombstone in 1880, shortly after he arrived in town, a drunken Holliday managed to shoot Oriental Saloon owner Milt Joyce in the hand, and his bartender Parker in the toe (neither was the man Holliday originally quarreled with). For this, Holliday was fined for assault and battery.
- With the exception of Mike Gordon in 1879, there are no contemporary newspaper or legal records to match the many unnamed men whom Holliday is credited with shooting to death in popular folklore; the same is true for the several tales of knifings credited to Holliday by early biographers.
- In Tombstone in January 1882, he told Johnny Ringo (as recorded by diarist Parsons), "All I want of you is ten paces out in the street."
- Publicly, Holliday could be as fierce as was needed for a gambling man to earn respect.
- He and Ringo were prevented from having the gunfight only by the Tombstone police (which did not include the Earps at the time), who arrested them both.
- Holliday is probably the second shooter of Stilwell, he killed Tom McLaury, and either Holliday or Morgan Earp fired the second bullet that ended the life of Frank McLaury.
- Holliday's role in the deaths of Frank Stilwell and the other three men killed on the Earp vendetta ride remains uncertain, but he was present at the events.
- Although Frank McLaury is sometimes erroneously stated to have been hit by three bullets (based on the next-day news accounts in Tombstone papers), at the coroner's inquest, Frank was found to actually have been hit only in the stomach and in the neck under the ear; therefore either Holliday or Morgan missed Frank.
- Biographer Karen Holliday Tanner states that of Holliday's 17 known and recorded arrests, only one (1879, Mike Gordon in New Mexico) was for murder. Actually, Tanner is incorrect, since Holliday was arrested and jailed for murder in connection with both the O.K. Corral fight, and later for the murder of Frank Stilwell.
- However, in neither case was Holliday successfully charged (the Spicer hearing was an indictment hearing, but it did not recommend indictment; any Stilwell indictment was quashed by Colorado's refusal to extradite).
- Of the other arrests, Holliday pled guilty to two gambling charges, one charge of carrying a deadly weapon in the city (in connection with the argument with Ringo), and one misdemeanor assault and battery charge (his shooting of Joyce and Parker). The others were all dismissed or returned as "not guilty".
- Actually the cane was typical; Holliday was physically frail throughout much of his adult life.
- Additionally, Big Nose Kate, at the end of her life in 1940 (after the Lake biography of Earp had appeared in 1931), explicitly denied that the story was true and laughed at the idea of herself holding a gun on a sheriff. (Kate's refusal to embellish or even claim a part in a good story which centers around her, makes her simultaneous report of the action at the O.K. Corral gunfight, which she did claim to see, considerably more credible).
- There are many supposed photos of Holliday, most of which do not quite match each other. The one clearly visibile adult portrait-photo known to be authentic is the March 1872 Pennsylvania School of Dental Surgery graduation photo taken when Holliday was 20. This photo shows a light-haired man with light and slightly asymmetrical eyes, a thin moustache and fine features. It matches only partially with the other known authentic photo, a poor-quality (but signed) standing photo of Holliday taken in Prescott, Arizona Territory, in 1879, the year before he went to Tombstone.
- The 1879 standing photo, though certified, is of very poor quality and badly distinguishable. It shows Holliday as not changed a great deal in seven years, though he sports a larger mustache and perhaps also an imperial beard (triangular bit of hair left below the middle of the lower lip, combined with a mustache).
- In the 1879 photo, Holliday is also wearing a tie with a diamond stickpin, which he was known to have worn habitually and which was among his few possessions (minus the diamond) when he died. This stickpin is similar to the one Wyatt Earp was wearing in his own most well-known photo.
- March 1872 age 20
  
  Prescott, Arizona, 1879 age 27
  
  Uncreased print of supposed 1882 Tombstone photo of "Doc Holliday", age 30. Left side of upturned detachable shirt collar toward camera, no cowlick.
  
  Creased and darker-toned version of left Tombstone, Arizona photo.
  
  Most often reproduced "Doc Holliday" photo. Heavily retouched oval-inscribed portrait, with cowlick, folded down collar.
  
  Photo of "Doc Holliday" with bowler (derby) hat and more open vest and coat. This is not a retouch or expanded field version of any of the photos above.
- Grave of Doc Holliday in Glenwood Springs, Colorado

02 Oct 09

Sightings: Sighting In October 7th Near Atlanta, Georgia

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Sighting Report :
Record #78
Sighting in October of 7th 1 near Atlanta, Georgia.
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- Submitted on: May-22-2001 | Catagory: Sounds
- It was October the 8th of 1998 and i had got up early that morning it was around 4am and decided to make me a cup of coffee and sit out back on my porch.Not far behind my house is woods.Any way as i sat and drank my coffee i got a real eye opener
- I then heard loud ape type sounds coming from the woods,close by,so i ran and got a flashlight and headed up to the area where i heard the sounds coming from.
- They where directly behind some heavy bushes and trees there must of been 4 together making these ape like sounds at one time and very loud.
- I stood fairly close and began shining my flashlight directly where sounds were coming from.When i did they would stop making the ape sounds,when i put the flashlight away they would start back.
- I was just amazed,till i came to my senses and figured i just might be a little to close.
- The strange thing i thought about this besides the loud ape noises was that the dogs never barked at them even as loud as they were,but they barked at me with the flashlight.They also threw small objects of some kind i believe nuts or small rocks.
- It was in the fall and it was a cool early morning outside.
- I Have done research myself and have some of my research wrote down in a journal.But i have not heard of anyone els seeing or hearing anything in the same area.
- I would like to thank Hawk Spearman ,Kenneth Wood,and Bill Stockstill for their support in my research,keep up the good work.

Sightings: Tracks, Sounds Near Lacrosse, Georgia

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Sighting Report :
Record #96
Sighting in August of 1970 near Lacrosse, Georgia.
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- Submitted on: Jan-15-2002 | Catagory: Sounds
- my girlfriend and i had gone down to tiger mountain and we wanted to visit miller's cave for the weekend. i got lost in millers cave but i finally found my way out. we heard an apelike creature in the cave and saw tracks when we left the place.
- i saw tracks and heard noises
- summer and it was hot
- watch out around tiger mountain

Sightings: Near Roswell, Georgia

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Sighting Report :
Record #363
Sighting in Not sure of near Roswell, Georgia.
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- Submitted on: 24/Oct/2005 | Catagory: Sounds
- I was eating breakfast and getting ready to go to school.
- I heard this ape-like sound. It was more of a scream made by a chimpanzee. I did not see anything, I only heard it.
- It was in my backyard, which is the woods. It was a fall morning.
- No, not that I know of.

01 Oct 09

Beyond the Apocalypse | Georgia Guidestones

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Arturo de Hoyos, Grand Archivist for the Scottish Rite Southern Jurisdiction, suggests another possible source for the myths of the Royal Arch degree:

The writings of Flavius Josephus may also have contributed to the Masonic tradition. In his Antiquities of the Jews (Book I, Chap. II, vs. 3), he mentions that Seth, the son of Adam “made two pillars; the one of brick, the other of stone: they inscribed their discoveries on them both, that in case the pillar of brick should be destroyed by the flood, the pillar of stone might remain, and exhibit those discoveries to mankind; and also to inform them that there was another pillar of brick erected by them.”
Graham Hancock discusses Josephus’ recounting of this myth in his seminal book Fingerprints of the Gods, adding details which further correspond with the Georgia Guidestones.
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- Given the plethora of astronomical alignments incorporated into the Guidestones, it’s worth noting that these antediluvian people were said by Josephus to be “the inventors of that particular sort of wisdom which is concerned with the heavenly bodies, and their order.”
- Hancock goes on to point out that similar myths of knowledge transmission through world-ending events can be found around the world.
- In the Indian Puranas, the fish god Vishnu warns his human protégé shortly before the Great Flood that “he should conceal the Sacred Scriptures in a safe place” to protect it from the impending disaster.
- In Mesopotamia’s version of the Deluge, the god Ea tells Utnapishtim “to take the beginning, the middle and the end of whatever was consigned to writing and then bury it in the City of the Sun at Sippara,” in order that the survivors of the Great Flood could return and search for the writings.
- Perhaps most notable is the account of Oxford astronomer John Greaves, who collected local Egyptian myths when visiting the land of the pyramids in the 17th century.
- According to some local traditions, the three Giza pyramids were said to have been constructed by an antediluvian king, who dreamt that “the whole earth was turned over, with the inhabitants lying upon their faces and the stars falling down and striking one another with a terrible noise”:
- And he awakened with great feare, and assembled the chief priests of all the provinces of Egypt...He related the whole matter to them and they took the altitude of the stars, and made their prognostication, and they foretold of a deluge. The king said, will it come to our country? They answered yes, and will destroy it. And there remained a certain number of years to come, and he commanded in the mean space to build the Pyramids...And he engraved in those Pyramids all things that were told by wise men, as also all profound sciences – the science of Astrology, and of Arithmeticke, and of Geometry, and of Physicke. All this may be interpreted by him that knows their characters and language.
- While investigation of the Giza pyramids has turned up very little ‘engraving’ – in fact, engraving of any sort is conspicuous by its absence on these imposing structures – certain knowledge is certainly ‘encoded’ and ready to be interpreted.
- The main passage descending into the Great Pyramid on its northern face is aimed directly into the firmament at the ‘imperishable’ polar stars, just as the Georgia Guidestones are now locked onto Polaris through the hole in its central pillar.
- And, through design or coincidence, the monument also encodes the values of pi and phi, in the slope of the pyramids sides and the dimensions of the ‘King’s Chamber’ respectively. Certainly, we can at least give Greaves the ‘astrology’ and ‘geometry’ parts of his statement.
- Maintain Humanity...
- These myths about the purpose of stone monuments show that, far from being a New World Order directive to kill off 90% of the population of the planet, the Georgia Guidestones are actually meant as an instruction manual for the small band of survivors of some future cataclysm.
- What form the designers of the monument thought that cataclysm would take is unknown, though given the era it was built in one can assume that fears of a global nuclear war would have been a contributing factor (and perhaps offers an answer as to why it was built away from large population centers).
- We do know for a fact though that population increase and irrational leadership were at the forefront of the group’s concerns, which might likely lead to some sort of Third World War.
- According to a statement by the monument’s designers...
  
  ...The group consciousness of our race is blind, perverse, and easily distracted by trivia while it should be focused on fundamentals. We are entering a critical era. Population pressures will soon create political and economic crisis throughout the world. These will make more difficult and at the same time more needed the building of a rational world society.
  
  ...The approaching crisis may make mankind willing to accept a system of world law which will stress the responsibility of individual nations in regulating internal affairs, and which will assist them in the peaceful management of international frictions. With such a system we could eliminate war. We could provide every person an opportunity to seek a life of purpose and fulfillment.
  
  There are alternatives to Armageddon. They are attainable. But they will not happen without coordinated efforts by millions of dedicated people in all nations of the world.
- In truth, the controversial aspect of the inscription on the Georgia Guidestones is not the figure of 500 million, as the more zany conspiracy theorists would have it. As we’ve seen, there is little doubt that this is meant as a guide to a small group of survivors of some future disaster.
- The more provocative part of the inscription is the word “maintaining” – and the group are quite clear in their intended meaning on this point:
  
  In 1980, as these stones were being raised, the most pressing world problem was the need to control human numbers...controlling our reproduction is urgently needed. It will require major changes in our attitudes and customs.
  
  ...In these circumstances, reproduction is no longer exclusively a personal matter. Society must have a voice and some power of direction in regulating this vital function. The wishes of human couples are important, but not paramount.
  
  The interests of present society and the welfare of future generations must be given increasing consideration as we develop mechanisms to bring rational control to our childbearing. No person should be brought into the world unwanted and unneeded. No child should be conceived through carelessness. If each life is to have value, every conception must be part of an ordered plan of two parents who are aware of their responsibilities to that child and to society.
  
  ...Knowledge and techniques for regulating human reproduction are now in existence.
- Between those words, and the eugenic-sounding instruction to improve “fitness and diversity” in reproduction, the message of the Guidestones starts sounding, rather unfortunately, like a Chinese remake of Gattaca.
- To be sure, the end goal is ultimately sane, and some of the sentiments – such as having no unwanted children – are laudable, but would it justify the means?
- I have a sneaking suspicion that very few Western individuals would allow the government to dictate their right to have children. At least, very few pre-apocalyptic individuals...
- But the message from the group acknowledges exactly that, impressing that population control would “require major changes in our attitudes and customs”.
- It is just that they, in 1980, saw an impending population emergency. And it has to be said that time – even worse, a very short amount of time – has proven their concerns to be justified.
- When the Georgia Guidestones were planned and built, just three decades ago, the world population was estimated at 3.5 billion people. As of August 2009, that number has almost doubled to 6.8 billion. That sort of increase is the very definition of unsustainable.
- So the question should perhaps simply be framed as – are we more likely to change our customs, or rush headlong into apocalypse? Perhaps the fact that the group actually decided to build the Georgia Guidestones as a lasting guide gives us an answer...
- Message in a Granite Bottle
- It’s amusing (if you’re open to black humor) to note that Graham Hancock, in the conclusion to his bestselling book Fingerprints of the Gods, asks what we might do if faced with impending doom.
- “Of course there would at first be much panic and despair,” writes Hancock. “Nevertheless – if there were sufficient advance warning – steps would be taken to ensure that there would be some survivors and that some of what was most valuable in our high scientific knowledge would be preserved for the benefit of future generations.”
- He suggests that the survivors might be “blasted back into the Stone Age”, so a priority would be finding a way to communicate with them and make sure they got the message “no matter what language they spoke”.
- Amusing, because the creators of the Georgia Guidestones have done exactly that. In the same vein as the myths concerning a lost antediluvian civilization, they have inscribed messages upon granite stones, in order to pass on the ‘wisdom’ of our own time to future survivors of some cataclysm that is yet to occur.
- Whether you agree with the inscribed wisdom may be another thing, but it is hard to not be impressed with the forward-thinking behind this massive message in a bottle. Not least when we look at how most of our knowledge is currently encoded – as bits of information, stored on magnetic disks, requiring electricity to access it.
- However, in terms of forward thinking to preserve knowledge for future generations, the Georgia Guidestones do not stand alone.
- For instance, the Rosetta Project is a modern attempt to archive all of the world’s documented languages.
- As one aspect of their commitment to preserving this knowledge, members of the Rosetta Project have created the ‘Rosetta Disk’. Made of nickel, and just 2.8 inches in diameter, the disk is meant to be a “durable archive of human languages”.
- The Disk surface...is etched with a central image of the earth and a message written in eight major world languages: “Languages of the World: This is an archive of over 1,500 human languages assembled in the year 02008 C.E. Magnify 1,000 times to find over 13,000 pages of language documentation.” The text begins at eye-readable scale and spirals down to nano-scale. This tapered ring of languages is intended to maximize the number of people that will be able to read something immediately upon picking up the Disk, as well as implying the directions for using it—‘get a magnifier and there is more.’
  
  On the reverse side of the disk from the globe graphic are over 13,000 microetched pages of language documentation. Since each page is a physical rather than digital image, there is no platform or format dependency. Reading the Disk requires only optical magnification.
- The disk is “immune to water damage, able to withstand high temperatures, and unaffected by electromagnetic radiation.” And the disk is housed, and protected, within a four inch spherical which is split into two hemispheres. The bottom is made of high-grade stainless steel, while the top is made of optical glass and doubles as a magnifier.
- Another project to preserve knowledge is the Church of Scientology’s ‘Trementina Base’ in New Mexico.
- According to the Church, the purpose of the base is as an archive to preserve the writings and recordings of the founder of Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard. The texts are said to have been engraved on stainless steel tablets and encased in titanium capsules, which reside in an underground bunker on the site.
- I shall leave it to the reader to decide whether this is knowledge we want to transmit to our post- apocalyptic descendants...
- What captivates us about the Georgia Guidestones is as much their mystery, as it is the structure itself.
- R.C. Christian walked into history in 1980, left his mark upon the landscape of Georgia, and then walked right back out of time.
- In doing so, he also left his mark upon the minds of anybody who has come across the enigmatic Georgia Guidestones.
- Are they the work of ‘The Order of the Quest’, a secret society as old as civilization and entrusted with the preservation of human wisdom? Or are they the work of a group of Nazi-inspired Illuminati wannabes, with no greater claim to knowledge than any of the rest of us?
- Whatever our opinion in the here-and-now, we can be sure that a future generation, rebuilding after a global cataclysm, would likely revere the message of the Guidestones – just as we have an innate feeling of respect and awe for the megaliths left behind from our predecessors, such as at Giza, Stonehenge, and Göbekli Tepe.
- Lastly, in case the appearance of R.C. Christian seems more akin to a Comte de St Germain or Men in Black intervention to you, rather than a mundane project by some bored businessman, there is one story from the construction of the Georgia Guidestones which bears retelling.
- Sandblaster Charlie Clamp, who etched the 4,000 individual letters onto the massive granite slabs, recounted that while carving the guides he heard “strange music and disjointed voices.”
- Readers of my article in Darklore Volume 1, “Her Sweet Murmur”, would certainly be intrigued by that anecdote, with its suggestion of paranormal interactions.
- With the Georgia Guidestones, the mystery goes on. And may continue on for millennia, beyond the apocalypse.
- More sample articles from the Darklore series are available from the Darklore website. Or, head to Amazon to pick up your copy of Darklore Volume 4 today:
  
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25 Sep 09

BFRO Report 25346: Possible late night sighting and activity at a home near Griffin

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Report # 25346 (Class B)

Submitted by witness on Friday, January 23, 2009.
Possible late night sighting and activity at a home near Griffin
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  SEASON: Winter
  DATE: 20 Jan 2009
- STATE: Georgia
  COUNTY: Spalding County
- LOCATION DETAILS: Exact location omitted.
- NEAREST TOWN: Griffin Ga
  NEAREST ROAD: Hwy I-75
- OBSERVED: It all started around mid May 2008.
- I went to feed my two pit bulls around 11:30 pm one night, me and my wife had returned home late from eating out.
- While taking the dogs food to them I heard a long moan / howl coming from the woods behind my house
- I at first thought it was my neighbor but it just did not make sense because it actually sounded farther off in the woods than my neighbors house sits.
- It stopped me dead in my tracks.
- I started surfing the internet later on after that and came across the BFRO website and played a few vocalizations and the Ohio Moan / Howl sounded just like the one I heard.
- I decided to ask my wife if she had heard or seen anything unusual around the woods and house, she asked me why and I reluctantly told her I thought I had heard a Sasquatch in the woods.
- She started laughing and said “ I guess they throw rocks at the house and garage too”.
- Well my jaw dropped I asked her what she meant and she told me that the whole time I was deployed to Iraq (2005-2006)when she would come out on the back porch to smoke at night some one would throw rocks and sticks at our garage which is not attached to our house and sits back in the wood line some.
- She even had her brother come out and listen one night while he was down on vacation it freaked both of them out.
- That was pretty much the extent of every thing until 3 nights ago,
- the weather had turned really cold here in Ga and when I would go out to smoke at night I would not stay long.
- It was during one of the brief smoke breaks that around 1:00 AM I was staring out into the front yard when I caught some movement in the corner of my eye,
- I turned my head just in time to see the massive back, shoulders and head of this enormous creature disappear behind some bushes.
- It was fairly close to the yard light I have in my yard but just far enough away to not be able to tell the actual color of this thing I would guess a dark brown or grayish.
- I went out and measured a limb that I am fairly sure was about even with its head and the limb measured at exactly 10 feet so the height was about 10 feet tall
- it was slightly hunched over with no visible neck and a shoulder width, the best I can guess, of about 3-4 feet across
- it looked like it covered the distance of 6-7 feet with one step ( although I could not see its legs and feet I am judging by its gate)
- I could not see its face but its fur looked like a horses winter coat that had not been combed out.
- ALSO NOTICED: None
  OTHER WITNESSES: None
  OTHER STORIES: No
- TIME AND CONDITIONS: Early Morning 1:00am Its was dark and very cold around 15 degrees out, the sky was clear.
- ENVIRONMENT: Very thick scrub brush at the edge of my yard.
- Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator Mary Snyder:
- When I spoke with the witness about his brief sighting and the other activity he mentioned in his report, he was factual and sincere. The sighting area is a sparsely populated rural area with plenty of wildlife, farmland and creeks in the vicinity.
- Witness stated that the approximate height of the animal to be around 9-10 feet tall from measuring a branch where he saw the animal retreating back into the wood line.
- The vocalization he heard in May 2008 sounded similar to an “Ohio” type moan/howl approximately ½ mile away. The vocalization started out low, gradually getting louder, lasting about 30 seconds.
- Witness also made note of a few tree twists at a height of about 6’ in the woods located near his property.
- His wife also added that while he was deployed to Iraq, on many occasions she would be on the back porch and hear small stone-like objects hit their aluminum garage.
- About BFRO Investigator Mary Snyder:
  
  Mary grew up in the Finger Lakes Region of Central New York State, and currently resides in Georgia. She has 10 years of Military Service.
  
  Mary has attended the following expeditons:
  Georgia 2009
  Tennessee 2009

20 Sep 09

BFRO Report 25043: Campers see animal observing campsite in Cohutta Wilderness

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Report # 25043 (Class A)

Submitted by witness on Thursday, November 13, 2008.
Campers see animal observing campsite in Cohutta Wilderness
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- YEAR: 2001
  
  SEASON: Fall
  MONTH: October
  DATE: mid
- STATE: Georgia
  COUNTY: Murray County
- LOCATION DETAILS: near Cohutta Wilderness
  NEAREST TOWN: chatsworth
  NEAREST ROAD: 411
- we went to the chattahoochee national forest in murray county ga.
- OBSERVED: it was autumn, and 4 or 5 of us decided to go camping.
- we had been there many times before, and seen many kinds of wildlife bear, deer, turkey and wild hogs.
- we set up camp and built a fire beside a creek. we sat there talking and telling stories and such.
- well around 11:oo p.m we started hearing strange noises like a high pitch shrill
- someone in the group said it could be a panther since they have been known to scream.
- we sat there about another hour or so with the noises happening around every 20 minutes or so.then we heard limbs moving and twigs cracking from the other side of the creek. so we all looked that direction and just could make out the brush and trees at the edge of the creek.
- it sounded like whatever it was started getting closer.when all of a suuden we all seen limbs from the magnolia trees moving and out step this figure into the fire light
- it took 2 more steps, then we all could plainly see it.it was around 6'5'' or 7' tall with a huge broad chest maybe 3' wide.
- one of my friends got scared and dove into the tent and made a bit of noise,but it didnt seem startled.
- it looked at us and then squated by the edge of the water. it appeared to be doing something with its hands,all the while keeping a dead stere on us
- then we all pretty much paniced, and it calmly stood up and walked out of distance of the light and our flashlights.
- ALSO NOTICED: later that morning two of us heard the same shrills/screams but it sounded like multiple animals
- OTHER WITNESSES: yes at least 3 others
- OTHER STORIES: yes me and someone else who was present have heard screams and seen trees about 3'' to 5'' in diameter snapped in what looked like a path in the national forest and the cohutta wilderness
- TIME AND CONDITIONS: it occured around mid night and the lighting conditions werent that good but we could plainly see when we shined our flashlights
- ENVIRONMENT: riparian habitat at the edge of a large creek in some what of a vally with very high hills on either side
- Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator Morris Collins:
- I met with the witness who submitted the report, as well as a second witness to the incident. Both were adamant as to the details of the encounter.
- An additional detail from the on-site interview was that one of the witnesses was a pre-teen who had been crying loudly earlier in the evening.
- The group began hearing screams from the top of the ridge and up the mountain from the stream side camp site. There were 2-3 that were 15 to 20 minutes apart prior to hearing something moving down the hill and toward the camp site.
- The creature came down the hill side and stepped out in front of a tree that overhung the creek.
- The stream was about 30 feet from the fire, and about 4 feet wide at that point. It squatted by the side of the stream in full view of the campers. Its hands were in the water, and it stared back at the campers with no fear.
- The encounter lasted approximately 1 minute. The creature then stood up and walked back around the tree.
- The witnesses could hear it moving back up the mountain and away from the stream.
- The head was rounded and sat on the shoulders. The eyes were amber in color. The arms hung almost to the knees and the legs were muscular with big calves. They could clearly see the feet on stream edge.
- This report is interesting, in that it could have been the crying of the child that drew the attention of the animal. This has been noted in several reports where children are present during sightings.
- The witness had another incident in September of 2008 while camping near this area. They returned to camp and heard something run away. The second night they felt something was lurking around the camp all night. They heard wood being broken during the night and found 3 inch diameter pine trees snapped off about at about 4 foot in height in a pattern that suggested a trail.
- About BFRO Investigator Morris Collins:
  
  Morris holds a Bachelor of Engineering degree from Auburn University. He is an avid backpacker and SCUBA diver. Morris attended Georgia 2006, 2008 & 2009; North Carolina 2006 and SC 2007 expeditions. He is a member of the SE BFRO Tracking Team and is a certified Visual Tracker, Level 1.

09 Sep 09

Three 'gray aliens' spotted in woods at Unicoi State Park, Georgia

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Three 'gray aliens' spotted in woods at Unicoi State Park, Georgia
September 6, 6:52 PMUFO ExaminerRoger Marsh
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- A woman camping in Unicoi State Park, Georgia, saw "three gray aliens standing in the woods" at about 4 a.m. on August 30, 2009, according to witness testimony from the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) database.
- The woman and her husband were camping in the park. The woman got up at 4 a.m. to use the community bathroom
- Unicoi State Park & Lodge is a 1,050-acre state park northeast of Helen, Georgia.
- Unicoi State Park, Georgia. Wikipedia image.
- She described the beings as a couple of inches shorter than her 5' 3" height, with long arms, and pale, glossy skin.
- Following is the unedited witness testimony from MUFON.
- GA, August 30, 2009 - Alien sighting in Unicoi State Park, GA. MUFON Case # 19097.
- My husband and I went camping this past Saturday. Sunday morning,(August 30th) around 4:00, I woke up to go the the restroom. (There was a building near the campsites that provided restroom and shower facilities.)
- It was pitch black outside, except for the light from my lantern and the lights from the building. I went in, did my thing, and as I started to leave to walk back to my tent, I stopped because I felt there was someone behind me.
- I turned around and I saw three gray aliens standing in the woods behind the building, near another campsite on the hill in the back.
- I thought it could have been the people from the campground on the hill, but why would they just be standing in the middle of the woods at 4am for no apparent reason?
- They didn't seem to be doing anything but standing there.
- When one of them turned and looked at me, I realized they weren't human.
- For one thing, the arms were too long and the bodies were too thin. Their skin had a pale glossy look, and they had a very large cranium with lumps all over the top of the scalp.
- They had huge black eyes that seemed to pierce right through me.
- I stand 5'3" tall, and they looked about one or two inches shorter than me.
- The one that saw me started to inch toward me, but I bolted back to my tent.
- When my husband asked me what was wrong, all I could say was "There's (expletive) aliens back there!"When he finally calmed me down enough, he had me stay in the tent while he went to go see what it was.
  
  He found nothing.
- I don't know if I had any missing time or not. It was around 5:00 when I was finally calm enough to leave the tent, with my husband, of course.
- We had a cigarette and talked about my sighting. Then around 6:00 we got a fire going and cooked breakfast. That's really all I remember from that morning.
- Later that night, (I'm not sure what time it was. We kept waking up off and on.) he said he saw a shadowy figure move outside.
- He didn't hear any footsteps. He looked up and saw the top cover on the tent move, as if someone pulled it aside to look in at us from above.
- When we woke up again later that night, the blankets on his side of the tent were wet. (It started raining that night.) My side was dry for the most part.
- I can't remember exactly which campsite we used, but I'm pretty sure it was lot #60.
- It was located directly across from the parking lot. I didn't see any signs of a craft nearby, but I did see the creatures. I know what I saw was real, as I was wide awake when I saw them.

15 Jan 09

BFRO Report 7575: Military man and wife experience loud howling and shaking of mobile home near the Ohoopee River

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Report # 7575 (Class B)

Submitted by witness on Tuesday, December 16, 2003.
Military man and wife experience loud howling and shaking of mobile home near the Ohoopee River
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- YEAR: 1982
  
  SEASON: Winter
  MONTH: November
  DATE: 23
- STATE: Georgia
  COUNTY: Emanuel County
- LOCATION DETAILS: Our river place is on the Ohoopee River next to the Griffin Ferry Bridge. It is about five miles east of Oak Park, Ga.
- NEAREST TOWN: Ten miles: Lyons, Ga, small town of Oak Park 4 miles
  NEAREST ROAD: Griffin Ferry Road (three miles south of I-16)
- OBSERVED: An unseen animal howling LOUDLY while violently shaking a 12X45 mobile home almost off its blocks.
- My wife and I were awake, she was cleaning in the kitchen, and I was in the living room reading.
- Suddenly a LOUD howling sound began and at the same moment the trailer began shaking very violently. The howling and the shaking lasted ten seconds, but it was very loud as that of a bull horn.
- My first response was thinking we were having an earthquake.My second was someone outside somehow making the noise while somehow shaking the trailer. I grabbed my pistol and ran outside. There was nothing moving outside any where.
- ALSO NOTICED: The old trailer we were staying in had been empty for more than three years.
- When we arrived at the river trailer, the main entrance door was/had been forced open. people/vandals and animals had been entering the trailer, for months if not years.
- We had just returned from a military tour of duty in Germany. We were going to live in the old trailer until I could build a house on the property.
- OTHER WITNESSES: My wife and myself, our two children were asleep.
- OTHER STORIES: No. I lived on that property for more than 15 years, and hunted the woods, trapped and fished the river and never thought of a Big Foot until I surfed into your site a few months ago and heard the Ohio Howls.
- It was then that I realized what had happened the night that an earthquake accompanied by a hair-raising howling occurred that cold night in 1982.
- TIME AND CONDITIONS: About 2100 hrs. Clear and cold temperature in the mid twenties. dark with no moon
  ENVIRONMENT: Rural isolated river bottom, hardwood swamp,with scattered mixed pines
- Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator Matt Pruitt:
- The witness recounted the event via telephone.
- The witness and his wife had purchased the property for the purpose of building a house on the land. Previously, the area had been used as a fishing camp. A trailer sat empty on the property for several years.
- The witness and his family were using the trailer as a temporary home while the house was being built.
- On the evening of the incident, the trailer began shaking violently, as if a large creature were thrashing it from side to side.
- This was accompanied by an incredibly loud howl,
- The howl was not only powerfully loud, but resonated inside the small structure, amplifying the sound within. It ascended and descended in pitch, with a siren-like quality.
- The witness' wife began screaming in fear, and the shaking and howling suddenly ceased.
- The witness retrieved a handgun and went outside, but couldn't see or hear anything in the environment.
- It is the witness' interpretation that the animal may have used the abandoned trailer as a temporary shelter in the past, as there were signs of various animals entering and exiting the trailer when they purchased the property.
- The witness suggests that the animal may have been responding to the shelter being occupied by people on this particular occasion.
- This may be an accurate interpretation, supported by other stories of sasquatches temporarily occupying abandoned human shelters or structures.
- Likewise, there are other accounts across the continent of sasquatches shaking or striking homes and shelters with human occupants.
- The Ohoopee River and the surrounding areas have yielded other reports that GA-BFRO members are aware of. It is a heavily forested area, interspersed with rural agricultural plots.
- About BFRO Investigator Matt Pruitt:
  
  Matt Pruitt grew up in the mountains of Northeast Georgia, and has been conducting active sasquatch research for several years in various parts of the country.
- Matt has attended the following expeditions:
  
  North Carolina - 2007
  South Carolina - 2007
  North Carolina - 2008
  Georgia - 2008 (Expedition Organizer)
  Washington (Cascades) - 2008
  Washington (Olympic Peninsula) - 2008
- Matt is a trained visual tracker. During the summer of 2007, Matt co-instructed a tracking course for BFRO members in the Southeast. He currently lives in Seattle, Washington.
  
  Matt is the organizer for the 2009 Central Georgia Expedition.
  
  He can be contacted at Georgia@BFRO.net

BFRO Report 4109: Night time harassment of Army patrol on the west edge of Ft. Stewart, 5 miles NE of Glennville

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Report # 4109 (Class B)

Submitted by witness Army Sgt. RB on Wednesday, April 10, 2002.
Night time harassment of Army patrol on the west edge of Ft. Stewart, 5 miles NE of Glennville
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- YEAR: 1995
  
  SEASON: Winter
  MONTH: December
  STATE: Georgia
  COUNTY: Tattnall County
- LOCATION DETAILS: [First heard within 50 yards of the western boundary of Fort Stewart]
- NEAREST TOWN: Glennville
  NEAREST ROAD: unknown
- OBSERVED: Myself, an infantry squad leader, and two other squad leaders, with 2 privates, were assigned to do a recon of another unit a few miles away. We did not have time to decide a route. As it was getting dark we set out with a map and compass.
- Our route took us through near chest deep swamp for several hundred meters. We came out of the water probably about a mile from the other unit. Shortly after exiting the water we could hear something or someone following us.
- We thought maybe it was our instructors, but then decided it couldn't be. No one in their right mind would have followed us through the water and no one knew the route we took.
- It would come up behind us. When you would expect to see it, it would cut off to the right or left, go around us, fade off, and then we would hear it coming again. This went on for 10 or 15 minutes.
- Although we didn't see it, it was easily within 25 yds.
- Wanting to see it we tried to trick it by having Sgt. W. and Pvt. P. sit tight and the rest of us would move out slowly, then in 5 minutes they would pick up and move out.
- Then we couldn't hear it anymore. We met up a couple of hundred yards later with the other 2 soldiers and they said the same thing -- that it came between the 2 groups, around them, toward us, like it knew exactly where we were even though we couldn't see it.
- The thing started weaving in and out of the two groups like in a figure-8.
- Later about 400 meters from our objective we set in a patrol base and decided we would conduct the last phase in 2 man teams with myself and Sgt. H. going first, Sgt. W., Pvt. P. and Pvt. S. staying at the patrol base until our return in a couple of hours, at which time 2 others of the patrol would go out.
- This is when it got really wierd, we were about half way to the objective when we heard something following us again.
- We got to the opposite side of a somewhat open area and laid down facing the direction of the noises.
- Probably 5 minutes passed and all of a sudden this scream-roar is the only way I can explain it. We looked at each other and I said "what the hell was that". We had never heard anything like that before.
- About a minute later it screamed again and then we heard what sounded like a huge rotten tree falling, and brush breaking. That was the last we heard and the last I wanted to hear.
- A little about myself, 27 yrs. old at the time, from the mountains of WV , combat veteran, hunted small and large game since 8 yrs. old.
  
  The soldier with me was from NC, outdoorsman, very woodswise, 28yrs. old at the time of the incident.
- Hard for me to sit down and write this. I haven't told very many people of this in fear of being laughed at. I know that whatever it was it didn't want us there and it was intelligent.
- ALSO NOTICED: Not that I know of. We were out of the area before daylight. Ft. Stewart is 40 miles wide and 20 miles deep, and [is full of] uninhabited swamp. If you wanted to go somewhere and never be seen that would be the place to go.
- OTHER WITNESSES: 5 other witnesses. We were on a reconaissance patrol.
- TIME AND CONDITIONS: EST 11 pm till 3am ; Mist, full moon good visibility
  ENVIRONMENT: swamp, with some higher dry ground, mostly pine with alot of under growth
- Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator Matthew Moneymaker:
- Fort Stewart in Georgia is north of Savannah and about 30 miles inland from the Atlantic Ocean. This large military reservation is full of wildlife, including alligators and pumas.
- The witness [Sgt. R.B.] had patrolled other parts of Fort Stewart many times at night over the course of seven years.
- On many of those occasions he was alone on patrol. He had never heard anything like this before, and heard of no other incidents from other soldiers/personnel on the base.
- When this incident happened, he and his unit were on patrol in a nearly inaccessible swampy section of the reservation where there are no roads.
- RB had never been in this area before, and says no more than 3-4 people pass through this section each year.
- The stalking and circling of the soldiers went on for a while, in two phases, before the screaming and the tree fall.
- Two screams were heard. One a moment before the tree fall, and the second almost simultaneous with the tree fall.
- The animal was heard running away right after the tree fall. RB said it was obvious the screams were coming from a very large animal.
- During the stalking and circling episodes the soldiers could hear that the animal was running on two legs. It was running and circling the soldiers in the darkness, at high speed through the brush.
- RB said his patrol group was intimidated by how fast the animal could move as it circled them repeatedly, just out of view.
- The patrol wasn't carrying any bright lights or spotlights. They only had small flashlights with red filter lenses for reading maps. They weren't carrying any nightvision devices either.

BFRO Report 2279: Multiple witness sighting near Beards Creek Church, outside Glennville

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Report # 2279 (Class A)

Submitted by witness L. on Sunday, July 25, 1999.
Multiple witness sighting near Beards Creek Church, outside Glennville
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- YEAR: 1982
  
  SEASON: Unknown
  STATE: Georgia
  COUNTY: Tattnall County
- LOCATION DETAILS: This occured in the countryside of Glennville, Georgia. The name of the road was Beards Creek Road. The sighting was near Beards Creek Church.
  NEAREST TOWN: Glennville
  NEAREST ROAD: Beards Creek Road
- OBSERVED: Two friends and I were driving out to the country to check out and old graveyard. Near the old graveyard there's a new church and a larger new graveyard.
  
  It was late at night probably around ten or eleven pm.
- We were heading down a dirt road to go to the old graveyard. Around the new church there was a big street light. As we passed by the church we noticed this big shadow standing (on two feet) under the light.
- We turned around to check it out thinking it was a person and wondering why they were there so late at night.
- As we headed toward this shadow it took off running still on 2 feet toward the new graveyard.
- We followed it with the car through the graveyard on dirt road. We drove up next to a large headstone and just as we thought we lost sight of this thing it stood up from behind the headstone. We froze as it stared at us.
- It's eyes looked red, I guess from the glare of the head lights.
- It was very tall, about 7 or 8 feet, and had long brown hair that covered it's entire body.
- It only stood there for a few short seconds and then turned and ran off into the woods. Needless to say after seeing it we did not try to continue to follow it.
- We were just teenagers and having a few beers that night so we never told anyone about this. We thought they would just say we were crazy or drunk.
- I did however hear other stories about other sightings of something like this in that area. Also heard one story that it might have been a lost soldier since this was close to [Fort Stewart] Army base.
- I never really knew what it was that we saw that night. Didn't want to go back and find out.
- OTHER WITNESSES: We were driving to see the old graveyard and church because there were rumors of ghost out there. We did drink a beer on the way out there, but we were not drunk. We still had our senses working properly.
- TIME AND CONDITIONS: Around 10 or 11 pm
  ENVIRONMENT: The church was built on an old country road. It is or was (been 17 years since I have been there) a wooded area. There were swamps and a lot of farm land out there. It is close to an army base called Fort Stewart.
- Follow-up investigation report:
  
  An incident involving an Army patrol in Fort Stewart occured near this location in 1995.
  
  See report # 4109 -- A link on the page for report 4109 goes to another report page showing eyewitnesses sketches from an 1979 encounter in Richmond County, GA, in a remote section of Fort Gordon, 130 miles north of these incidents near Fort Stewart.

BFRO Report 17089: Night sighting through thermal viewer by soldier on Fort Stewart

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Report # 17089 (Class A)

Submitted by witness on Saturday, December 23, 2006.
Night sighting through thermal viewer by soldier on Fort Stewart
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- YEAR: 1998
  
  SEASON: Fall
  DATE: 11/12/1998
  STATE: Georgia
  COUNTY: Liberty County
- LOCATION DETAILS: North east part of Fort Stewart in a training area. Surrounded by Highway 119, 144 and I-95 This area is relatively swampy with thick vegeation in most parts. Occured on a dirt road. Would have to look at a map of Ft. Stewart to show close to exact area.
- NEAREST TOWN: Ft. Stewart
  NEAREST ROAD: Highway 144
- OBSERVED: Let me set up the story with some information that is pertinent to the situation. I was in the Army stationed at Fort Stewart, Georgia. My job at the time was as a gunner on a Bradley Fighting Vehicle. My unit was in the field conducting a training exercise which was to last a few days. The Bradley fighting vehicle is an armored tracked vehicle that normally has a crew of three; (Vehicle Commander, Gunner and Driver).
- One night around 2AM my vehicle was moving solo along a dirt road (we called them tank trails) in the northeast part of Fort Stewart. We were driving blacked out with no lights on. I was acting as gunner and had my head buried in the thermal sight system which is used to engage targets at night. The thermal sight distinguishes differences in heat signatures and formulates a picture in either white hot or black hot (depending on what you have selected) against a red background. The driver had the hatch closed and was using a night vision device to view the road.
- The vehicle commander was standing up out of the hatch looking through night vision monoculars. While moving along, if we encountered an intersection I would slew the turret either left or right (90 degrees) over the side of the vehicle to look down the road and clear it of any simulated enemy. At one particular intersection I did this maneuver, slewed the turret over the right side of the vehicle and looked down the trail.
  
  It was clear and the vehicle made a right turn. After turning we drove approximately one hundred yards. The vegetation was extremely thick in this area due to being a swamp and about 10-12 feet high. As I was looking through the sight I observed something come out of the vegetation, approximately fifty yards in front of us, from the right side of the road and walk across the road to the left and re-enter the vegetation. The dirt road is approximately 15-20 feet wide.
- This creature cleared the road in three steps at a normal stride. It didn't seemed bothered by us or in a rush. I don't recall it looking in our direction. Its head and torso were straight and it just walked on. Typically while looking through the thermal sight at a person you can distinguish clothing, hair, equipment they may be wearing, etc and be able to judge their height with the surroundings they are standing in. This creature appeared through the thermal sight to be one constant color from head to foot, have no clothes on and to be fairly tall, approximately 7-9 feet.
- The first thought that came to my head was a bigfoot. At the time it all just seemed to make sense. From watching documentaries and reading books as a kid it all seemed to fit. Everything happened very quickly. I was shocked when I saw it and said nothing till after it went back into the woods. I announced to the vehicle commander over the internal comm system that something just walked across the road and it wasn't a man or an animal. He got spooked and told the driver to punch it. I wanted to stop and investigate but no one else was having that. We were never able to go back and now I could only vaguely point out a general area we were in.
- ALSO NOTICED: No one else wanted to hang around to check out the area in which the creature crossed. Due to the vehicles noise nothing was heard.
  OTHER WITNESSES: I was the only person out of three to observe the creature.
  OTHER STORIES: After observing the creature, the next morning at breakfeast I took some heavy ribbing over seeing Bigfoot. A soldier came up to me and stated his father had been stationed at Ft Stewart during the 60's. This soldier was sincere in saying that his father had also observed what he thought was Bigfoot in the same part of the base as I had observed mine. He did not or I have forgotten and other details he provided.
  TIME AND CONDITIONS: Approximately 2AM. Totally dark with maybe a little bit of lunar illumination. Can't remember about clouds.
  ENVIRONMENT: Swamp with thick vegetation on either side of dirt road. Vegetation in area was approximately 10-12 feet at its highest
- Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator Stephen Willis:
- Spoke to the witness on Dec. 24, 2006. He is no longer in the military and works as a police officer.
  
  His sighting was very short, approximately 4 seconds during which the creature crossed an 18 foot wide road.
- An important element for me is the uniform coloration he observed through his thermal sight. This confirms my own observation with a thermal viewer during the BFRO's March 2006 Redwoods expedition (Northern California).
- The creature I saw was very tall and had a uniform heat signature. It had none of the bright spots seen on humans in clothes.
- Humans in clothes (costumes would reveal the same patterns) show noticeable variations in surface temperature. Exposed skin stands out brightly while the loose parts of clothing are cooler and darker .
- The figure observed with the thermal sight in Georgia showed the same characteristics I observed in the California Redwoods -- a uniform insulation density.
- The base camp of the Redwoods expedition was adjacent to a canyon where sounds had been heard earlier in the day.
- That night I was scanning the perimeter of the camp with a car-roof-mounted thermal viewer I observed a very tall figure walk to the edge of the camp, coming from the direction of the canyon where sounds had been heard a few hours before.
- It briefly walked out into the open, albeit in the dark, then reversed direction and walked rapidly back to the cover of trees. It had the same smooth gate and pronounced arm swing seen in the Patterson footage.
- From my position the figure appeared to walk by a bush which provided scale for a height comparison with a human. So the morning after the sighting I asked a 5' 7" person to walk the same path. The comparison from the same angle showed that the figure I observed the night before had to be at least 8 feet tall. The 5' 7" person was would have come up to the chest of the figure I observed.
- About BFRO Investigator Stephen Willis:
  
  Stephen is retired from the U.S. Army. He has attended 16 BFRO expeditions so far and has led several on-site investigations of sightings.

13 Jan 09

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Date:

november, 1986

Grady county,

GA

Nearest town: Whigham

Nearest road: Old Highway 84

Conditions: clear

Time: night
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  Turn off Hwy 84 onto Old Hwy 84, go approximately 1 mile to fork. Hike into woods on left approximately 3/4 mile until you get to Ga. power line at a small creek.
- Description of event: My wife and my late brother and I were coon hunting. We had 1 coon dog and 2 young dogs that we were trying to train. The dogs would only go a short distance away from us and would come back. We kept hearing leaves crunching as if something was following us and heard twigs and branches breaking, but every time we turned around we could not see anything. After about 30 minutes of trying to coax the dogs, one of the young dogs went running by as if something had scared it and would not come to us. We turned back and walked back to the small creek. We stopped and listened and smelled a terrible odor. It smelled like a wet dog, sour pig pen, rotten onions and sulfur. I turned and looked back approximately 50 - 75 yards and saw 2 large red eyes. We saw something standing upright on 2 legs that was approximately 9 feet tall. It took about 2 steps to cross the power line into the woods.
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02 Oct 08

The Bailout Wont Work and the System Will Implode - The International Forecaster

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- Sheople - on 2008-10-02
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we know we lied to you about every economic statistic on the face of the planet, but, hey, we're all in this together now, and you have no alternative other than to accept our bailout plan (oh, let's call it a "rescue plan" instead) so thatyou can pay for all the economic carnage resulting from our debauchery.
- REMEMBER, REMEMBER THE 1st OF OCTOBER!! - on 2008-10-02
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- And have no concern that the 1.4 quadrillion dollar, roiling, boiling derivatives volcano is going to wipe out the entire world banking system with molten credit default swaps and interest rate swaps in a blaze of pyroclastic glory over the next several years,
- because, hey - we're working on it! And never mind that the problem is unsolvable.
- This is the United Goldilocks Matrix, where everything turns out juuuuust right!
- Note first, how the Paulson Plan, which we will hereinafter refer to as PP (which is also a good acronym for Preposterous Poppycock), is a perfect example of Illuminist extortion aimed at stuffing a very rotten apple down the collective throats of our elitist marionettes in Congress, who, for the first-time in what must be over half a century, displayed some backbone in their denial of the initial proposal for the PP,
- albeit that their nixing of the PP was most likely motivated by political opportunism more so than by any true patriotism.
- The extortion got started with a bang on September 7, when Fannie and Freddie were nationalized, and then we were "shocked and awed" with a series of colossal commercial bank and investment bank failures, starting with the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers on September 10, at which time Merrill Lynch also went under and was purchased by Bank of America. Then AIG goes down on the 16th.
- First, we saw Bear Stearns assassinated this March as an appetizer.
- Out comes the PP on the 20th. Then, to keep up the pressure, Washington Mutual implodes on the 25th and is acquired by JP Morgan Chase, followed by the vaporization of Wachovia on the 29th, which is acquired by Citigroup in the hours before the first vote on the PP is commenced.
- Now mind you that these banks have been insolvent from the outset of the credit-crunch in August of 2007, as we have reported to you over the past year.
- And here we are, with Congress about to recess to campaign for reelection just before the vote in November, and suddenly the whole system, which until now has been kept in a state of suspended animation, comes down to scare everyone into accepting the PP. How blatant and churlish can you get?
- Along the way, we also saw Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley give up their investment bank charters for commercial bank charters while getting bailed out with equity injections from various Illuminist companies.
- Then banks and other financial institutions in Europe suddenly crumble, after unofficial weekend rumblings, with official announcements of bailouts/nationalizations made, right on cue, on Monday to bolster the PP, including Fortis (Belgium, Netherlands and Luxemborg), Hypo Real Estate (Germany), Bradford and Bingley (UK), Glitner Bank (Iceland) and Unicredito (Italy).
- Here is a little time line summarizing the action that occurred as a lead-up to the vote on the PP:
  http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/sep/27/wallstreet.useconomy3
- Nevertheless, the PP gets nixed by the US House of Representatives in a "shocker," and suddenly the Dow plunges 777 points as punishment for our Congress having the audacity to deny the Illuminati because they were getting inundated with calls from constituents who were against the PP, sometimes by as much as 300 to 1.
  - Extortion and blackmail by the Banksters and their contracted Hit Men (aka the U.S. Senate) - on 2008-10-02
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- The message: give us the $700 billion or we will give you trillions worth of grief just prior to elections.
- As a side note, while we are not into numerology, when you get a 777-point punishment for nixing a $700 billion bailout plan, may we suggest there is some sort of message there.
- Also, as a side note, we had to laugh when Citigroup bought out Wachovia. It was like a zombie marriage made in heaven. The walking dead marrying another member of the walking dead.
- It's like mixing C-4 with TNT. What a conflagration that combination is going to suffer!
- We suppose, for now, that we technically have the Fed now leading the Big Five instead of the Big Four (the Big Five being JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley and now Citigroup). We'll see how long that lasts.
- We expect to get back to the Big Four in the not-too-distant future. The Big Four will get vaporized later, as will the Fed, with everything being nationalized, as planned by the Illuminati all along.
  - For the goal is a One World Government - on 2008-10-02
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- Now we are hearing the moron, Illuminist bankers in Europe drone on about how doltish the Americans are for rejecting such an excellent plan.
- Then there is the Caligula Administration, whining that we don't like the plan any more than you do, but it must be passed or everyone will suffer great pain (as if that can somehow be avoided and as if they aren't drooling over the profits to be made when the money is doled out).
- Now, the Senate leaders are getting in on the act, blaming the House for defeating such a wonderful plan and causing trillions in losses in the stock markets (even though it was really just the PPT withdrawing its support and strengthening the yen, thereby allowing the financial markets to fall under the weight of their horrendous fundamentals, as well they should when left to themselves instead of being manipulated by our corporatist, fascist, elitist scum and their financial anti-gravity machines).
- The Senate is going to add some tax breaks to sweeten it for the House Republicans, but the House Democrats may then be put off.
- The Senate is thus trying to obfuscate what is the main issue - that the plan won't work, will ultimately increase our pain and fan the flames of hyper-stagflation and out-of-control, double-digit interest rates as everyone stampedes toward the exits, trying to unload their treasury paper all at the same time before it becomes worthless.
  - Failure - on 2008-10-02
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- Meanwhile, the bribes and threats are being thrown every which way as the Wall Street pirates and the usual government scalawags attempt to claim their booty.
- This so-called rescue plan is a "disgrace," is "totally flawed" and there are many better, and far less expensive, alternatives, notes the respected economist Nouriel Roubini.
- Also noted by Mr. Roubini is the fact that credit and other financial markets have been deteriorating despite the prospects of approval for the PP, which shows you in spades that the plan won't work and will do little more than line the pockets of the Illuminists at the expense of the taxpayers who will get vaporized in the end.
- As Mr. Roubini points out, the government's purchase of bank assets is the route the Japanese took, and this led to a two-decade recession/depression which they still struggle with to this day.
- We will now follow them into financial oblivion unless by some miracle the elitists are stopped from implementing the PP, or the Derivative Death-Star detonates before they can complete their final raping of the sheople.
- Instead of having a brief one or two years of moderate depression, we will end up with one or two lost decades and the worst depression ever created in the history of mankind, not to mention a corporate, fascist police state.
  - The end result of the treason in the U.S. Senate - on 2008-10-02
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- The PP will temporarily put off, and greatly magnify, the final implosion of our economy which will be worse by an order of magnitude as the direct result of the implementation of the PP.
- The glowing, Quadrillion Dollar Derivative Death-Star insures that destruction is on its way.
- It is not "if," but "when." When it explodes, in the aftermath, a financial black hole will form as global markets implode, and will suck everything into one final crushing moment of complete annihilation.
- The PP will only serve to extend the period of elitist fraud, and they will continue to produce toxic waste and dump it on their sucker-dupes for vast fees, spreads and commissions as they speculate, gamble and re-leverage with all their newfound largesse, courtesy of the US taxpayer and the backing of nationalized Phonie and Fraudie along with the huge injection from the PP.
- They have beaten down commodities. Now, all they have to do is have the PPT drive up the stock market with the puffery provided by the PP, and they win.
- This all ties in with the Big Sting Two.
- They will bail out through their dark pools of liquidity, Project Turquoise and Baikal, behind the public's back, and then use their sales proceeds to buy up all the tangible assets such as precious metals, commodities, real estate and domestic infrastructure at fraudulently manipulated and reduced prices.
- Such drastically reduced prices will also become available at an ever-accelerating pace as financial and business corporations continue to collapse and go into bankruptcy.
- After they have bailed out of all dollar-denominated paper assets, the Illuminati will let the stock and bond markets come-crashing down, the price of precious metals and other tangible assets will explode, they will clean up, and you, the sheople taxpayers, will get left holding the proverbial bag of worthless fiat paper for the nth time.
- As the system implodes, the highly appreciated tangible assets of the Illuminists will be used to purchase property for pennies on the dollar as liquidations continue under the weight of what will be a complete systemic failure of the fiat money and credit system, after the elitists have had their fun.
- That is their hope, but we doubt they can hold it up long enough to complete their final rip-off of the sheople.
- This is why they fear the Derivatives Death-Star, and start mumbling to themselves every time someone in Congress brings that subject up.
- They must bail out before this Death-Star detonates, or they will be wiped out, hence their desperation to implement the PP.
- They intend to leave nothing but burned out corporate husks, the Fed and the Big Five included, when the Derivatives Death-Star detonates, and then you, the sheople, will be asked to nationalize the entire banking system.
- This is what happened to Germany in the aftermath of the Weimar Republic after hyperinflation had cut its swath of destruction.
- And we have relatives of some of the same players involved in the rebuilding of Nazi Germany as a fascist police state.
  - And we know who they are!! - on 2008-10-02
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- Caligula's grandfather, Prescott Bush, helped finance the new Nazi fascist government through a banking concern he managed which was later shut down as an entity that collaborated with the Nazis.
- He was almost hanged for treason before his Illuminist buddies saved his neck.
  - And they need to be in a docket such as the Nazi high command was at Nuremberg and Tojo was in Asia. - on 2008-10-02
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- And now GHWB and Dubya are working off the same playbook as history repeats itself.
- The Fourth Reich is coming to a theatre near you, complete with Nazi death camps and a Nazi police state.
  - America under a fascist state - on 2008-10-02
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- As you watch the financial carnage going down all around you, perhaps you can now start to understand and appreciate that this is not business as usual and that we are not conspiracy quacks talking out of our back ends. You had better wake up and take action quickly, or you will be caught up in a new Holocaust.
- Now, let's take a look at some of the new blather that was added to the PP to bring about the so-called compromise.
- First, we state categorically that the taxpayers will not make a single dime of profit from this scam. You are going to pay for this cess pool of toxic sewage at the "hold to maturity value," which means you will pay par less any principal reduction from payments received.
- And which paper do you think they are going to buy with your dollars? Do you think it will be the stuff worth 70 cents on the dollar, or will it be the stuff going for 10 cents or less on the dollar?
- We will not even insult your intelligence by answering that question. And if this toxic waste is worth pennies on the dollar now, what will it be worth when our economy finally comes down under the weight of our rabid profligacy, rampaging fraud, rampant speculation, raving lunatic leverage and roaring, outrageous deficits?
- You guessed it. A big fat goose egg. You will eat the whole thing - guaranteed.

Senate Roll Call on Financial Bailout Oct 1, 2008

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- Oct. 1) - The 74-25 roll call by which the Senate approved a $700 billion rescue package for Wall Street aimed at preventing a credit crisis.
- On this vote, a "yes" vote was a vote to approve the package and a "no" vote was a vote against it.
- Voting "yes" were 39 Democrats, 34 Republicans and 1 independent.
- Voting "no" were 9 Democrats, 15 Republicans and 1 independent.
- Alabama
  
  Sessions (R) No; Shelby (R) No.
- Alaska
  
  Murkowski (R) Yes; Stevens (R) Yes.
- Arizona
  
  Kyl (R) Yes; McCain (R) Yes.
- California
  
  Boxer (D) Yes; Feinstein (D) Yes.
- Connecticut
  
  Dodd (D) Yes; Lieberman (I) Yes.
- Delaware
  
  Biden (D) Yes; Carper (D) Yes.
- Georgia
  
  Chambliss (R) Yes; Isakson (R) Yes.
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- Hawaii
  
  Akaka (D) Yes; Inouye (D) Yes.
- Illinois
  
  Durbin (D) Yes; Obama (D) Yes
- Indiana
  
  Bayh (D) Yes; Lugar (R) Yes.
- Iowa
  
  Grassley (R) Yes; Harkin (D) Yes
- Kansas
  
  Brownback (R) No; Roberts (R) No.
- Kentucky
  
  Bunning (R) No; McConnell (R) Yes
- Louisiana
  
  Landrieu (D) No; Vitter (R) No
- Maine
  
  Collins (R) Yes; Snowe (R) Yes.
- Maryland
  
  Cardin (D) Yes; Mikulski (D) Yes.
- Massachusetts
  
  Kennedy (D) Not Voting; Kerry (D) Yes.
- Michigan
  
  Levin (D) Yes; Stabenow (D) No.
- Mississippi
  
  Cochran (R) No; Wicker (R) No.
- Missouri
  
  Bond (R) Yes; McCaskill (D) Yes.
- Montana
  
  Baucus (D) Yes; Tester (D) No.
- Nebraska
  
  Hagel (R) Yes; Nelson (D) Yes.
- New Hampshire
  
  Gregg (R) Yes; Sununu (R) Yes.
- New Jersey
  
  Lautenberg (D) Yes; Menendez (D) Yes.
- New Mexico
  
  Bingaman (D) Yes; Domenici (R) Yes.
- New York
  
  Clinton (D) Yes; Schumer (D) Yes.
- North Carolina
  
  Burr (R) Yes; Dole (R) No.
- North Dakota
  
  Conrad (D) Yes; Dorgan (D) No.
- Ohio
  
  Brown (D) Yes; Voinovich (R) Yes.
- Oklahoma
  
  Coburn (R) Yes; Inhofe (R) No.
- Pennsylvania
  
  Casey (D) Yes; Specter (R) Yes.
- South Carolina
  
  DeMint (R) No; Graham (R) Yes.
- Tennessee
  
  Alexander (R) Yes; Corker (R) Yes.
- Texas
  
  Cornyn (R) Yes; Hutchison (R) Yes.
- Utah
  
  Bennett (R) Yes; Hatch (R) Yes.
- Vermont
  
  Leahy (D) Yes; Sanders (I) No.
- Virginia
  
  Warner (R) Yes; Webb (D) Yes.
- West Virginia
  
  Byrd (D) Yes; Rockefeller (D) Yes.
- Wisconsin
  
  Feingold (D) No; Kohl (D) Yes.

24 Sep 08

Israel losing patience with Moscow

Israel losing patience with Moscow
Accommodations to Russia don't prevent arms deliveries to Syria
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- Editor's Note: The following report is excerpted from Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin,
- Israel's policy has been to take a soft line with Moscow, agreeing to many of its requests, in efforts to persuade the Russians not to provide the Jewish state's neighbor, Syria, with arms or to help with Iran's Bushehr nuclear project, according to a report from Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.
- Israel also had sought to placate Russia by halting its experts' advisory work in Georgia, because of the military conflict between Russia and Georgia with the goal of protecting a growing Jewish population in Russia, especially in Moscow and St. Petersburg.
- The accommodating position, however, soon may be a former policy because of Russia's plans to base its naval fleet in Syria and its construction of spy stations along the border with Israel.
- According to Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, Moscow is supplying the Syrians only with "defensive weapons which are not breaking the regional balance of power."
- Moscow has insisted that any weapons it sells to Syria and Iran are defensive.
- But Israel may be hardening its position due to what Israeli diplomats see as a failure to achieve their goals in the face of Russia reasserting its power, especially in the Middle East.
- Israeli President Shimon Peres has warned that sending new weapons to Syria "would endanger peace in the world, not only in the Middle East."
- A senior foreign ministry official said Russia's "forceful return on the international stage doesn't guarantee in any way it will have a constructive role in the future of the Middle East."
- Russia and Israel had been developing a closeness in culture and tourism in recent years, mostly because of a large influx of Jewish émigrés from the former Soviet Union who grew nostalgic for Russia once in Israel.
- The relations had been improving steadily since the fall of the Soviet Union, even though Tel Aviv has opposed many of Moscow's diplomatic efforts that are at variance with Israel.
- For example, Israel opposes Moscow's desire to talk to Hamas, the radical Palestinian group now in control of the Gaza Strip.
- Israel also had responded to demands by Moscow to withhold military assistance to Georgia. Israel had provided an estimated $200 million in military assistance and had provided some 1000 trainers for Georgia's military.

13 Sep 08

RussiaToday : News : US to invade Iran any day now?

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- A few weeks ago the Russian newspaper Izvestia, a well-known and authoritive daily published nationwide and abroad, came forward with something that would have been looked upon as a conspiracy theory if published by a tabloid.
- The paper suggested that by attacking South Ossetia, the Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili had badly damaged a planned U.S. military operation against Iran.
- In the newspaper's opinion Georgia was supposed to play the role of another "unsinkable aircraft carrier" for the U.S., i.e. an operational and tactical base for U.S.
  
  aircraft that would be making bombing raids into Iran. Something akin to what Thailand was in the Vietnam war.
- Thailand certainly benefited from the arrangement, and Georgia would have too, insists the paper, if its President hadn't put his ambitions above the US national interest and ended up beaten, disarmed, chewing on his neckties and totally incapable of providing whatever the U.S. needs from him.
- That's why, according to Izvestia in yet another article on the matter, the U.S. response to the Russian retaliation was harsh in words but very mild in action.
- The latest on the issue suggests that Mikhail Saakashvili may be replaced any day now by direct order from Washington.
- Having read the story in Izvestia I decided to try to figure out the extent of improbability and impossibility of the assumptions.
- As I was doing that, I remembered that early in August CNN had started showing U.S. generals who cried for more troops and hardware for Afghanistan which, in their opinion, was rapidly becoming a more intensive conflict than Iraq.
- Shortly after that, a phone call came from a college friend who had just come back from Kandahar in Afghanistan, where he had seen American battle tanks being unloaded from a Ukrainian-registered Antonov-124 "Ruslan", the heaviest and largest cargo airplane in the world.
  - Amrican battle tanks being unloaded in August from Ukrainian-registered Antonov-124 "Ruslan", the heaviest and largest cargo plane in the world. - on 2008-09-13
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- The friend asked if I had any idea what tanks would be good for in Afghanistan, and I said I didn't.
- It's an established fact from the Soviet war in Afghanistan that tanks are no good for most of the country's mountainous territory. They are good for flatlands, and the main body of flat land in the region is right across the border in Iran.
  - American battle tanks were meant for Iran? - on 2008-09-13
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- Later in August there was another bit of unofficial information from a Russian military source: more than a thousand American tanks and armored vehicles had been shipped to Eastern Afghanistan by Ukrainian "Ruslans" flying in three to five shipments a day, and more flights were expected.
  - More than 1000 American tanks and armored vehicles shipped to Eastern Afghanistan...? Could these, considering this past week's (Sept 12, 2008) news of cross border raids by American troops into Pakistan, be intended for Pakistan? - on 2008-09-13
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- Somehow all this, together with the series of articles in Izvestia, the information that all U.S. troops in Afghanistan are going to be reassigned and regrouped under unified command, the arrival of NATO naval ships in the Black Sea, the appointment of a man used to command troops in a combat environment as the new commander of the US Central Command and other bits and pieces.
- To my total astonishment, when they all fell together the Izvestia story started looking slightly more credible than before.
- Today the U.S. media reported that there had been a leak from the Pentagon about a secret Presidential order in which President Bush authorized his military (most of which is currently on Afghan soil) to conduct operations in Pakistan without the necessity for informing the Pakistani government.
- The U.S. military in Afghanistan - or shall we say in the whole region neighboring Iran - is getting a freer hand by the day. And it is getting more and more hardware to play with.
- Of course it's quite clear now that Georgia has lost its immediate potential as a nearby airfield, but after all, the aircraft carriers in the Gulf are not so far away.
- Believe me I'm not saying that the U.S. is going to start an all-out war against Iran tomorrow. But aren't there indications that it may happen the day after tomorrow, a month from now, or on any date before the official handover of Presidency in the U.S.? Or, as some suggest, before the election?
- I'm just asking the questions. But there are some people, like those working for Izvestia, for instance, who answer them with a "yes".
  
  Evgeny Belenkiy, RT.

11 Sep 08

Sacked Air Force Secretary: We Shoulda Sent Jets, Troops to Fight Russia | Danger Room from Wired.com

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Sacked Air Force Secretary: We Shoulda Sent Jets, Troops to Fight Russia
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- September 09, 2008
- The former Secretary of the Air Force says he would've been willing to risk World War III, to take on Moscow.
- When Russia invaded U.S. ally Georgia last month, American think-tankers and policy makers were quick to offer a whole range of ways that the U.S. could react.
- Some suggested standing pat. Others counseled diplomatic actions against Russia. The most extreme advisors proposed giving the Georgians Stinger missiles, or going after
  
  Russia's oligarchs.
- But Michael Wynne, recently-fired Air Force Secretary, says we should have gone a big step further in siding with Georgia.
- As in, a World War III-size step.
- Military.com published Wynne's editorial yesterday:
  We could have flown Global Hawks or U-2s on the Russian-Georgian border
  to signal our watchfulness to the Russians. We could have escorted
  these assets with the F-22s, which fly at high enough altitude to
  operate as a defense of unmanned assets, or can operate to defend key
  assets in Georgia. If the Russians determined to invade, we could have
  strengthened air defenses of key Georgian positions, provided fighter
  re-enforcements, and placed Special Forces or Marines on the ground in
  the national capital.
- Holy pointless apocalypse, Batman! Wynne's idea would have instantly escalated a limited regional conflict into a full-blown global war, the first between major nuclear-armed states.
- Say what you will about the justice of Georgia's initial attack on Ossetian separatists or Russia's supposedly "disproportionate" response -- does anyone beside Wynne really think Georgia is worth risking Armageddon?

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