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I had run away and hid and a woman named Eva Taylor
turned me in. I don't know if she got the reward or not for my
"safe return." -
But in about a year I was sold again by
Nancy
Pitts. She was old man Pierce and his wife's daughter, who
where the main guards over the mass grave site. - 98 more annotations...
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They called
themselves devout Catholics and had two daughter in covenants.
They also had two adopted daughters, Kathy and Karen, that were my
age, and Nancy who described herself as a witch. -
When I met her
she was married to Tom Pitts, and his brother Bill was getting a
divorce at that same time, so I pretended to like the thug. -
Shortly before Nancy sold me was when the St. Louis Masons got
wind of me and got serious about my death warrant. Nearly
everyone this side of hell wanted me dead mostly for two
reasons; I was a primary witness, and to stop me from forming a
militia, which was already formed. -
After
Callie married John Chadwell, a Mason from St. Louis,
Missouri, he came to squirrel hunt in the woods where the mass
gravesite was -
I knew he wanted to see in person the site and
Ken took him into the woods. Ken was brother to
Callie and Jack. It was shortly after that when
Callie brought me a fruit salad she had made and made me eat
it. As soon as I ate it I vomited on Callie and she
headed for her car and left. -
I never knew what was on the salad
but I was very ill for a few days. I always knew that the Masons
in St. Louis told John to get rid of me and it wasn't just a
family affair. Again I survived attempted murder by the grace of
God. -
Wes:
These people never stop to amaze me! They are so loaded with
crimes that they all the time must be terrified of getting caught
or exposed. However, if they get caught, they will still stand a
chance to get away with it within the Masonic court of law, but
not always. What a miserable existence they live... -
Debra: The reason that crime is so out of control all
ties in with the NWO [New World Order,
editor's note] turning us against each other and
mistrusting each other. -
The legal system is what created the
secular humanist pig attitude that forces us to exist in a
heartless and brainless society. -
We have wimpy laws that are
weak on crime and the revolving doors of the courts are on
instant replay. If our talking heads lawmakers made tough laws
then they would be in big trouble when they, their relatives, or
their friends were arrested. -
They are conditioned to think
they have it because they didn't know the system before the
coup. The political apathy was created by the NWO which is the
other half of our government's split personality. They don't
want us to be free thinkers, they want us to be robots just like
them. -
Our citizens under the age of fifty
don't even know what Democracy is. -
Keeping us
hooked on drugs is another big reason for political disinterest;
our citizens have a one track mind to get a fix. -
Wes: You also hinted when we closed Part 2 of this
interview that Bob Jones, the agent who worked with you,
was in real trouble once, and that they were about to hang him.
How did that turn out? -
Debra: Yes, Bob Jones got caught. He yelled at me one day in 1971 from
near the mass grave site and I ran down the hill into the woods and
saw that two men had Bob tied up. I screamed at the men that he
was my secret boyfriend and that he was married. To make a long
story short I ran them off. -
Bob's hands were tied behind his
back so tight that I had to bite the rope to try to loosen it. -
He was a spook pro; once loosened he knew the tricks to get them
off. He quickly untied his ankles and ran into the woods with
the noose still hanging around his neck. -
I think he told me they
were from the almighty sheriff's office and I know the sheriff
sent snoops out there once in a while. I think they filed some
minor complaints on me like beating up two other detectives. -
Wes: To
understand even better how your life within this sick and insane
community run by these people was, and from being more or less
in the middle of it all, can you tell us how a 'typical' day in
the life of Debra Hunter looked like when you were a child?

Hargrove
Bridge by Hwy 53 in Butler County, Missouri -
Debra:
A typical day in my life would be to get up and tip toe around
the house avoiding squeaky floor boards as I washed my face and
combed my hair. I never had clothes that fit properly, good
shoes to wear or a warm coat. I had to learn to sew and wash my
own clothes from the time I was eight because no one else would. -
I went to
school bruised and bloody all the way through school. After
school I helped making supper, washing dishes, cleaning the
stove off and sweeping the kitchen floor. Then I had to sit in
the living room close to the TV, because they watched every move
I made. -
Sometimes I would be made to sit on my bed for hours,
and I would read. I was not allowed a bible but had one anyway
and was not allowed to pray but did, and was often beat for
singing gospel. -
Jack owned a tavern called The Sands Club on
Highway 53 in the 60s and he burned it down and bought one
and named it The 53 Club on Highway 53. -
He left at
8:00 am and didn't get back to the house until after 1:00 or
2:00 am so it was a blessing not to have him around the house
although he often came in to eat supper with us. -
When he did I
would get beaten while he was there, as we victims had to be in
pain at all times as part of the human guinea pig
experimentation. While I was beat or tortured, Jack would
try to make me say there is no God; I refused. He would scream,
"Where is your God?" I would say, "He's here and He bears
witness." -
When I was sixteen, Jack beat me up over a Nazi girl name
Pat Reed, whom he claimed was keeping him informed of me,
causing her trouble. I didn't know who she was until I asked
someone at school. -
Every time I
got beat up if Jack mentioned Pat ,then I would go
to school and beat her up. I told her, "I'm about damn
tired of your name coming up when I get beat up, so when you get
tired of me beating you up, you tell Jack to quit saying
your name." I beat her up until when she got pregnant, but she
tried to trip me, so I grabbed her hair and smashed her head
into a wall. -
Jack
said Pat was a good girl that would dress in a sexy
nightgown and seduce her father. -
I was given a choice of
dressing sexy for Jack or getting beat up and raped. I
replied, "No just beat me up and rape me, I'm used to it." -
Wes: It
is sometimes pretty challenging to hear your testimony, because
it involves so much human suffering and pain. It is hard to
grasp for someone who has not experienced it him/herself. Very
heartbreaking... -
As a matter of fact, I lived together with a
survivor from MK-ULTRA (which is a government mind
control program) in 1999-2000, and we did research together. She
told me a very similar story from her own childhood. The way you
were treated seems to be quite a standard operation in Nazi Mind
Control. -
Anyway,
knowing how the Illuminati/Nazis gain control by creating fear
and terror, it's not difficult to understand how this whole
criminal activity could be kept secret - people who knew did not
dare to speak up. There are also rewards involved if you keep
silent.
This system
can be pretty sophisticated and works quite well for them, although the
truth is leaking out on occasion.
Please tell us a little bit
more about how things were covered up. -
Debra:
Obviously from mine and other peoples facts coming out it's
clear that people on the local, state and federal payroll were
not doing the job they were paid to do. -
Their paychecks was from
the Democratic part of our government, or legal money. -
They
controlled the governments money flow into the counties and
could use it any way they wanted as long as they could keep the
victims mouths shut. -
What we called
the 'Conspiracy of Silence' meant that people around us also
were keeping their mouths shut and refusing to help any of us
get an investigation into our county. -
We called those people
sympathizers and considered them as guilty as the Nazis doing
the killing. -
The Nazis had told their relatives to keep quiet
about the coup and when it was over they would be filthy rich.
We call that "The Nazi Instant Millionaire Game" and it was a
promise that never materialized as they played and lost. -
They told
their children to never try to help one of us victims and never
try to get anyone into the county to investigate. In doing so
they gambled their children's life away as they dragged them in
on the conspiracy of silence and equally as guilty as the years
went by of mass murder cover-up. -
And during all those years I listened to their relatives making
remarks about how rich they're going to be. They even made jokes
about how they made Jesse James look like a choir boy,
and other jokes. -
They knew while they were waiting to get rich,
people were being brought into the county from all over and
slaughtered, except for those they chose to use in the sex
industry. -
That was part of the black or illicit money as they
used the citizens' children's bodies as money makers. Black
money came from sex, drugs, weapons and everything perverted. -
For many years
my mind would be pounding "survive" for hours at a time. We had
to stop those Nazi no matter what, so they can't victimize the
next generation, which is my children's generation. -
It's easy to see that our tax dollars paid for our own
victimization by our own government. -
We paid them to slaughter
us with legal money, and with black money they bought and sold
until they took over the world - in broad daylight. -
Wes:
Any particular States that were more involved than other in this human
trafficking and the rest of those highly criminal activities, from what you know? -
Debra:
The States I knew that where involved when I was a school girl
was Missouri, Arkansas, Texas, Georgia,
Indiana, California, New York and
Washington D.C. -
It was later that I realized Nebraska,
Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky and Utah were
involved, some of those I recently recognized as 'Nazified'. -
In
fact, every county that touched Butler Co. was taken over by
Nazis, including Arkansas.

Main
Street of Poplar Bluff, Butler County, Missouri -
There was Chillicothe, Livingston County, Missouri. which we
were always told was a juvenile camp for girls that would be
beat until they learned to do as they were told. I was terrified
at the mention of it. -
I knew only a
bit about outside of my own hometown Poplar Bluff, Butler County.
Missouri. -
Gunther
Russbacher, the CIA operative, was from the St. Louis,
Missouri area. He was in 'Operation Clydesdale', which was a covert
operation to rescue missing children. -
Booneville,
Cooper County, Missouri was a boy camp where the boys were sent to be
beat until they learned to do as they were told -
He said about the same
thing that I do, that the pedophile rings are being eliminated.
I just discovered his info in the last few days at
whale.to [also, you can read about
it on the
Rumor Mill News website, editor's note]. -
Also, I learned that some of them from
Washington County, Arkansas were visiting my hometown too.
That's why I had to go to those two counties to live for a
while. -
By the time I was in Junior High I had known that the Bowlands
from Tarrant County, Texas where visiting the local Nazis in
my hometown. -
I go into more details about this in the interview
Greg Szymanski did with me. You can listen to it at
http://arcticbeacon.com/audio/2007/2007-RBN/02-2007-RBN/.

Johnny Gosch
in 1982 -
I believe my case fits in with several cases I've learned about
in the last year;
The
Franklin Cover-up,
Johnny
Gosch, Mauri,
and
Jim Rothstein, a NY detective [please visit
Mauri's website
as soon as possible after you have read this article. There is a
lot of very informative and important information there,
editor's note]. -
Those are the ones I've gotten familiar
with. I have only read one book and it was about a Canadian that
survived Satanism and it was, "Michelle
Remembers" by Michelle Smith in 1980. -
Yes, some of us did contact Bridgestone Media Group in St.
Louis and hope witness will step forward to get the ball
rolling. -
Wes:
Very good! The more channels we put this information on, the
better!
I
am aware from my own research that these people pass on their
criminal thinking from generation to generation; meaning the
children within the cult learn how things are and 'should be'
from a Nazi point of view by their parents and others within
that system. Is this something you have noticed, too? -
Debra:
Yes, they are generational but also allow new recruits. All
Nazis are informants and they call themselves secret police. -
From the time
they are children they are brainwashed by all the cultists
around them. They are deliberately confused to what reality is
and trained to help keep tabs on those who are their victims. -
They are programmed to watch the victims and catch them off
guard to assault them. They yell and make a scene by accusing
them of things in hopes of swaying those around them into
thinking they are the bad guys. -
Their parents
reward them and brag about how smart, good, and cute they are
when they hurt other children and compare them as being stupid,
bad, and ugly etc. -
They also are used as sexual objects just
like missing children are. -
The Nazis split the personality
for two reason that I know of: first to cause mental illness and
make them easier to control, and then to destroy them mentally
as reliable witnesses to all the crimes and killing they are
involved in. -
Wes:
Which brings me to this queer fact: what most people don't
realize is that the majority of those cult members don't
consider themselves being evil; this is the way they were
brought up and taught by their parents. In their
twisted way of thinking, they believe what they are doing is for
the greater good, and absolutely necessary for the future of
humanity. But please go on... -
Debra: Well, no one is touching on the true meaning of a
Nazi but it would be more proper to define them as deliberately
physically brain damaged peoples. They are crazy and there's no
such thing as a normal minded Nazi. -
It is true that they drown,
suffocate, smash the soft spots of top of their head, and give
shots to their newborns to destroys brain cells as part of the
human guinea pig experimentations. -
All Nazi
children are trained to cough in the victims faces at school any
time they are sick so they would catch their flues. They were
never punished for this, but the victims that complained were
harassed and called tattle tales by the teachers who themselves
were Nazis. -
When the investigation started in 1984 there was
three generations of Nazis involved in human sacrifice,
cannibalism and drinking human blood. -
While I lived
at the mass grave location I wrote a journal every Saturday
night by candle light. Those went to Interpol who still has them
and most of those can be made public someday. -
But that brings us
to a major problem of the US and its role in multiple cover-ups.
They don't just admit that anything is true until many decades
have passed; then they continue to deny parts.

Eric Clapton -
I need to make sure people understand that the mass gravesite
that Eric [Clapton] and I witnessed was a brand new site and the
only one that I saw in person. We were one of the headquarters
for Satanists; therefore the entire county had mass gravesites.
We won't know how many sites until this is out there and the
citizens force the media to help expose it, but the FBI and CIA
have all that information. -
The cultists
were constantly kidnapping people and that went on for three
full decades that I know of. I've always thought that my county
held the answer to tens of thousands of missing persons. -
I grew up
haunted by the image of Eric and I dancing and the people around
us not being aware that we were the missing link to those
kidnappings.



Mick Jagger, Rod Stewart and Tom Petty
were only three of the many rock stars that Debi was friends
with. -
Wes:
You have briefly mentioned that you have a twin sister,
Barbara, but so far we haven't talked too much about her.
What was her role and what happened to her? -
Debra:
Yes, Barbara was my twin sister and we set it up to look
like she was killed and the house burned down with her in it in
San Francisco in Nov 1984. -
The Nazis were passing around photos
of her body to everybody in Butler county. It had to look like
she was dead in order for her to be undercover. -
Once the government uses citizens for guinea pigs it has to be
kept covered up. -
I saw sixty children about 1986 in Butler
county that were rescued from the Nazis by the CIA and never
knew what happened to them, but I think they were never allowed
back to their parents. -
The CIA and
FBI that we expected to help us turned out to be a bunch of
bastards that came in here and put a suicide psy-op on us all,
including we who were victims. -
The less truth that will be told
in court the better for the governments as they have to be
protected themselves from bad publicity even when it means
killing a primary witness like me. -
Wes:
Yes, and it's very hard to fight back when wherever you turn
there is infiltration. And you definitely could not at any time
get help from the police, obviously... -
Debra:
I don't know how many cops were Nazis but it was a heck of a lot
of them. They pretty well ran Butler county when I was growing
up there. -
One time, when
I was a teenager talking to some people on the street, a squad
car came up and the thug that got out pistol-whipped me and I
fell to the ground. I got up and said, "Take that badge off and
throw it on the ground so I can spit on it because it offends me
that a man wearing a badge can pistol-whip me." -
In 1984 when
the investigation of the cover-up began, the sheriff in Butler
county was named Link. Interpol already had evidence going
back to 1971 and then the FBI and CIA came in and watched Link
until they knew they had all his contacts. -
The CIA psy-op includes giving the Nazis
chems and bios and before they die a dose of truth serum. I too
had a dose in 1985 in Osteopathic hospital in Ft Worth. They put
it in my IV tube and sent a psychiatrist in to question me. -
There was a lot of cops in Ft. Worth that were Nazis as of 1984.
The one that was FBI that I knew by name was Mike Bond. I
don't know how many more FBI there were Nazi. -
When I got to the area of Benton county Arkansas and into
Oklahoma a little bit I knew there was some cops that were Nazi. -
In fact, the mind reader serial killer that I found there was a
cop with a split personality who killed forty people. I sent his
name and some info to NBC news in Oklahoma City in January. -
Wes:
Thank you, Debra. We both know that there are a lot of details
that can be told about what happened in Butler County, and
unfortunately this interview would be way too long if we
included everything. However, these series of interviews with
you have been very well received by my visitors. -
How about if
we stop here for now, but because of popular demand we can
continue these discussions at a future date? -
Debra:
Yes, seems like a good idea to me, Wes. -
Wes:
Then I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for coming
out with this extremely important information! You are very
brave and you have done a lot for your country; things you can
be proud of. I hope the information you've given here will
spread fast and make people wake up. -
Debra:
I hope so too. Thanks for having me, Wes. -
Wes:
Thank you!
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Eric and I and his friends were referred to
as "The New Rat Pack". -
I'm not really sure who named us that, but I
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Eric said all they were
waiting for was for me to give the go ahead if I thought I could
do the show without missing a dance step. I told him to set the
date, and as it turned out, Eric set a date in July. -
In order to have so many famous people there,
we pretended the party was my birthday present. Eric pretended
he was presenting me as being ready for the stage life. -
The Nazi
crime families allowed us to do the show with the understanding
that they were on the verge on making big money of me. -
Eric and I
played the leading roles. The plans went smoothly and when I got
there Eric was on stage singing "Cocaine." -
Everyone was in place for the role they were to play without a
script and Eric chose a singles bar named "Players." -
As I went into the
building he stopped singing and called me Layla. I went on the
stage with him and we sang a duet that we had sung for all those
years titled "Someone Like You." -
Then we did waltz and ball
room dances where I danced with Eric, Carlos, and Bob Jones
[the Interpol Agent, see Part 1 of this interview, Wes Penre]. -
I did my comedy routine and with that
part done we just talked and people quoted songs. -
One of my
lines in the movie went like this, when I am talking to Eric:
"Who's turn is it to beat up your wife yours or mine; just write
it in your next love letter." -
At that time, President Ronald Reagan called and thanked me for
not discussing UFOs... -
Wes: Really? Why
did he do that? Doesn't that seem kind of odd? -
Debra: It was! What I didn't know at the
time was that the Iran Contra scandal had been going on for
about a year or more. I think Interpol probably knew about that
as they were watching our government. -
Shortly before that, maybe
in the late 70s, some kind of yet undisclosed turmoil was
unfolding in the area of Iran. -
We had CIA there of course and
some Americans were taken hostage. Right after that Reagan took
office and we began, (if not sooner) making bombs. I know that
because I was a factory worker and a heat treating company
needed someone that could work part time. -
The metal that I was testing for hardness with a zerominder
tester was the detonators for the bombs. I had to estimate the
number of detonators I was seeing go through the factory each month
and it was about a million. -
I knew we
were going to end up back over there as we continued to make
bombs for a few years that I know of. Then in 1990 we went to
Desert Storm and I knew we still had plenty of bombs left so I
knew we were going back. -
While I was on the job we dropped a
few of them babies in the middle east but not many. -
The point I'm getting at is I
couldn't figure out the real reason the president called me. I
thought he actually thought that we were going to get to the
subject of the bombs I knew we were making and expose Iran
Contra. -
We're there today involved in the
desert war version of Vietnam. -
Now I have run across info that says he was briefed on
UFOs in 81 and made remarks about them about three more times as
a matter of record. -
I may never know the real reason he called.
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When Iran Contra went public a few years later, I think about 89, I
thought that was the reason he called; fear that we knew and
were going to expose that in our movie, but we had something more
important to expose that night. -
"Thank you for what you said; In the
name of National Security I can't discuss UFOs."
- Ronald Reagan to Debra, July 1984. -
Wes:
Yes, please go on... -
Debra: Well, there were some fights in the movie that were
real fights where a couple of Nazis got beaten up. Of course we
left those fights in the movie. -
The theme of the comedy was that I was the one that was unknown
but talented and had a lot of famous boyfriends. I was to choose
a lover to marry in the movie; Eric, Carlos, or Bob Jones. -
It was an all star cast and it was what I
call the heist because the Nazis never made money off me. -
We had
good music, good dancing, good jokes, and good fights in the
show. The night went smoothly just like we planned. We had
national and foreign media and satellite setups and it was
lights and cameras lined up on the highway as far as we could see. -
It was a once in a lifetime deal, and anyone that was there was
really excited over the prospect of exposing the organized
crime. -
That is what the Nazis in the building with us didn't
know, that they were being exposed for what they were. -
That is
why the media was there, because they knew we were entrapped and
doing something that would lead to a halt of the coup. The media
has always known about the coup in the US but it could not be
public before 1984. -
Now there's the problem of the media still
silent after all these years since the movie was made. -
Wes: Yes, I am not surprised. The
Media are owned by the same people you were exposing, and
although there are good, honest reporters working for them as
well, they are very limited at what they can publish or not.
They are just as trapped as we all are... -
Now,
what exactly did you do with the
movie once it was made, whom did you give it to, and who is in
possession of it now? -
Debra: I don't
know why the movie was never released, unless it's because of the
cover-up, but the producer will have the original. -
The FBI agent
Jerry Smith approached me shortly after and wanted a copy of the
script. I told him there was no script. -
The media have copies of
the movie,
including Jane Garrity of NBC, which was the local news media.
NBC was allowed to stay in the room for the
complete movie. -
One of the other station's anchors named
Clarice Tinsley was said to be a Nazi and I think she
wasn't' allowed inside; I'm not sure who told me that. -
Rolling
Stone Magazine was there; ET's Mary Hart was there, and I don't know if MTV was there; both those
shows where new back at that time. -
Also the local District
Attorney who was a Nazi was allowed to be there, but I didn't ask
what his name was. -
Wes: How did you present the movie, so that the Nazis
could be exposed? -
Debra: Hollywood and the music crowd made the plans, and
all I had to do was discuss a few things with Eric and Carlos. -
Then with a date set everyone involved knew what they would want
to say or do in the movie. The Nazis didn't realize they were
being exposed and they couldn't kill us on stage because too much
media was there. -
They didn't trust us but they were being tempted
with multi million dollars worth of royalties. So they fell for
it to allow us to get together that night. Greed really did
bring down the Nazis. -
With cameras rolling, the Nazis harassed us
even while we were on stage. They yelled, tried to distract us
and made terrible remarks to make us miss a step or fall. -
While
we were sitting and talking they would try to hit us, so the
fights in the movie are real fights. They were showing and
proving to the media that they controlled us, and we were proving
they're not for that one night. -
So when the public see it, and
eventually they will, it is all real stuff but it was a pivot
point in our goal. -
I know when people see someone famous like Eric they think in terms of music. When I saw
Eric I thought in
terms of one of my men being very important to the covert unit. -
I don't want to sound cold hearted, but I used to worry that if he OD'd on drugs it could be accident, suicide, or murder and we
would never know which. It would also have been a set back in our
endeavor as the plans would have changed if any key players
died. -
Wes: Now, can you tell us the details on what the movie
was about and what made it so revealing? -
Debra: I think of it as a duel or parallel movie,
and we
accomplished two missions. We made a romantic comedy that's
worth a fortune as a money maker that appeased the Nazis. -
The main agenda was to allow
the Nazis in the movie with us to interfere so people can see
what we were going through every day of our lives. They were
being exposed in a round a bout way and they got nervous and
tried to ruin the show for us. -
It was
a one of a kind movie that had never been done before, as we had
no script but a lot of good music. -
Wes: So if I understand this correctly, you let the Nazis
participate, being themselves in a revealing way? My question
then is, if you used this movie as proof of a conspiracy and a
coup taking place, was this evidence enough? Couldn't the
participating Nazis after the fact just say they were told to
play this role and that they've been set up? Or something
similar, which would put reasonable doubt into the picture? -
Debra: Yes the Nazis were allowed to be in the movie,
there was no getting rid of those psychopaths anyway. -
There was
a ton of evidence already gathered up for fifteen years with no
one to trust to hand it over to. The Nazis actually were set up
and we learned how to do a set up from them as they constantly
set us up for falls. -
Some of us were -
well lets be blunt about it - we were referred to as slaves. All
the media knew not to put certain info out there for the public.
It was such a huge undertaking that it was mind boggling. -
The entertainment media knew as well as the
news media that we were not all equally free. -
Anytime Eric or Carlos or anyone else told the paparazzi not to
make a photo public they respected that. -
We had put out word
that an assassination was going to happen that night during the
movie. We had to have a good reason to allow all that media in
there and it worked out fine. By being there, the assassin
couldn't carry out his deed, but there was no assassin anyway. -
The media waited a good many years for everything to fall into
place. They were perfectly behaved and aware that on that stage
something more than a song and dance was going on. -
It's difficult for me to put some of my
story into words because I spent a lifetime silent in order to
keep people protected. I kept foreign agents so covered that no
one ever knew they were here until they revealed themselves in
1984. -
We were
secretly performing a historical military maneuver that someday
will be made public. -
Wes: Did you meet with other celebrities as well, and if
so, in what way were they involved? -
Debra:
Each celebrity played themselves in the comedy. I may not
remember all of those who where there but I do remember some: -
Tom Petty, Andy Warhol, Mickey Gilley, Willie Nelson, Robert
Cray, the lovely Goldie Hawn, Grandpa Jones (Hew Haw),
Keith Richards, Mick Jagger, and BB King. -
I don't remember any
of The Beatles being there but I think the lovely Yoko Ono was
there. -
Also one top secret rock star that people thought had
died but was still alive was there -
The lovely Mary Hart of ET [Entertainment
Tonight, editor's note], which was a new program
at the time, was there too. -
and of course Eric, Carlos,
and myself. -
And last of all but not least is the
lovely Farrarh Fawcett whom I pray for all the time. I hope
others are praying for her as well, in her struggle against cancer, as we
all know someone affected by that terrible disease. -
BB King
was one of the all time favorites to all of us and we
were proud that he was our pied piper of skinny white kids. -
What was good about BB is he actually liked us
young ones and watching us grow with individual interpretations
of the blues. -
With gospel being my first musical passion in life, I continued
to explore the possibility that not all music was devil music. -
At the time I didn't realize how true it was, but
the Satanist had infiltrated the music scene as well as
Hollywood. -
We were hearing that back in those days about the new music like
The Beatles. -
I also learned it was not The Beatles that were devils, or their
music. The real culprits were in the shadows behind them, out of
sight; the unseen crime families with sinister intent. -
Back in
those days Hollywood was the Mecca of mammon to the Nazis and
they were a greedy lot. They would sell your soul to rock and
roll and your children's too. They would warp your mind with a
very intense control and even tell you not to think. -
A few more folks I met, some in Missouri and others later after I
moved to Texas, were Bill Murray (comedian), ZZ Top, Frank Zappa Sr.,
Stevie Ray Vaughn, Rod Steward, Phil Collins, Hank Williams, and
the lovely Carly Simon. -
Carly came to meet me while I was in
high school and said she heard that someday I'm going to name a
daughter after her because I just loved her. Carlos and I have
twins named Carlos and Carly. I think on that trip to Missouri
was Carly, Duane Allman, Eric, Carlos, The Beatles and
Pattie
Boyd. -
In fact I think it was my first meeting with Pattie Boyd and I
didn't know who she was. But she kept saying something under her
breath while staring at me. -
I told her off and asked Eric who the blonde was, and he said she was
George Harrison's
wife. I think I told him not to bring her around anymore because
I didn't have time for jealous games and I didn't want George
anyway. That's when he said it was himself she was jealous over,
not George. -
From then on I thought she was obsessed with Eric.
But worst than that was that she dedicated her life to following
me and causing trouble; she even screamed that I can't use Layla
for a stage name. -
One of the undercover agents
asked them to play a song that he could dance to with me and they
introduced me as Layla, the girlfriend to Clapton and Santana. I
think what we danced to was "Roxanne." -
I didn't exactly meet the band Police, but they played at the
Pavillion some time in 1979, or after - I can't remember, in Arlington, Texas. -
Eric's name undercover was Boss but it was also the
nickname of the agent in charge of all of us, Bob Jones. -
Bob Jones named me that
because I survived by knowing how to mentally deal with the
Nazis, and it meant being psychologically professional. -
Carlos
was the Mexican and mine was the Pro. -
Wes: Thank you, Debra! This interview has been
very educating for me, and I am sure for the readers too... -
Please stay tuned, for there will be a Part 3 as well.
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In
the near future we'll be continuing with Debra's eyewitness
survivor account to history in the making. -
We will hear how the St. Louis, Missouri branch
of Masons put out a death warrant on her at the same time the
Nazi captured, tied up and were going to hang Bob Jones... -
She will detail how
the Nazi Network around her operated and ties in with
globalization. -
(Update, April 01, 2008: Part three is now published and
can be viewed here) -
Wes Penre is a
researcher, journalist, the owner of the domains
Illuminati News
and
Zionist Watch and is the publisher of the
same. -
He has been researching Globalization and the New World
Order and exposed the big players behind the scenes for more
than a decade now. -
He has published his research on the Internet
at the above domains, which are currently updated to keep people
informed what is going on. -
In addition,
he has done
spiritual research to present a
solution to the problems of this world. His MySpace website
address is:
http://www.myspace.com/wespenre.
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I am sure the US is going to lead to World War III just
like the NWO [New World Order] wanted in the first place. -
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Debra: We thought it was going to get easy once we had
foreign agents doing surveillance on the Nazi devils who were
doing illegal surveillance on us. -
Once the Nazis got us, they put
wiretaps on our houses and phones; they didn't have to
have permission to tap us as part of their evidence game. -
To discredit us, the devils walked around calling us liars and
telling us no one would ever believe us. The men that surrounded our
houses 24 hours a day wanted us to know they were there as a
warning not to try to expose them; we were hostages/prisoners
of the coup. -
The Nazi mass
murderers around us were never under surveillance until Interpol
got here in 1971. -
When a car went by, the devils lay down in the seat
and no one knew a group of Satanist were "patrolling" us. -
They
gathered and twisted up evidence on us, it was all kept recorded
by the underground secret police who call themselves Gestapo. -
They accused us for many things, but everything was
just gossip as they tried to sway friends away from us, yes it
was hard to even have friends. -
I
assume all of us, Eric, Carlos and myself were forced; however, the
blackmail tactics didn't intimidate us from fighting against
them. -
They also forced us into porn.
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The cultists had certain issues to hide behind:
1) Skirts.
Their pit-bull women were pedophile serial killers too.
2) Badges.
Cops got by with it for so many years because of being in
control of the destruction of evidence. -
3) Child
abuse. As long as they could get by with that, they knew
they were safe to roam the country and kidnap and bring victims
to Missouri. -
That was the local set-up and higher up in the Nazi
Satanic pyramid scheme was a covert or black state and federal
government that was less than honest about what party they were
affiliated with. -
We didn't have the NWO/secret government term
back then, we referred to everything as "black." -
We on the
inside didn't even see them as secret. The term Shadow
government I think was coined by Oliver North of the Iran Contra
scandal during those hearings. -
When I first met General X he said, "We don't want women to help, we
don't want to hide behind women like they do." I
said, "It's different hiding behind a skirt like the enemy does
and having women stand beside you to help fight." -
When he said,
"Country first." I said, "No God first, everything else second. -
It's not just a flesh and
blood war, it's a spiritual war and there is a religion involved
controlling it that's pure evil." -
I told him we have to use different terms than they
do and the term I suggested we use for the top
political-religious commander is "Black Hand." -
We coined the
title for the coup as the "Black Hand Regime" and at that
time, 1969, we were already calling it the Fourth Reich
and shortly before that calling it the Third Reich saying that
WWII never ended, it just came to the US. -
I believe the term the "Invisible
Curtain" originated in Butler county, symbolic like the terms
Iron Curtain and the Bamboo Curtain. -
The General
has been one of the most secret people you'll ever hear of,
making him one of the most protected people in the world. I told
him when I met him not to hesitate to kill a Nazi if need to. I
was thirteen years old at that first meeting. -
1969 was a pivot year in this nation's history
although the truth goes untold as the government has chosen to
keep it covered up since the 1984 exposure. -
The repulsive Nazi flag covered in
innocent blood was stopped from being hung over our beautiful
nation in 1984. -
Bob Jones, the
Interpol agent, asked me if
I wanted to know what the cultists really are and I told him no,
and
that I call them Nazis. I'll never forget the
look of fear on his face as he said, "Yes they are Nazis, do you
want to know more?" I said, "No, I can't stand no more." -
Interpol realized the Nazis
had already almost taken over; but not 100%. -
The Nazis wanted us
brainwashed into thinking they had the nation completely. Once in a while
some cultist
would say, "One of these days we're going to own this country."
That told me that the coup wasn't complete. -
Our plan was for the men to have affairs and then the women
to have
affairs and it looked like a lot of love was going on, but that's
how we passed information and evidence. -
We all had a role to play but my end of
it was always a little bit different than the typical victim
because they saw a huge money maker by using me, problem was I
refused to be the money maker or goldmine, as they called me. -
I
wasn't forced into prostitution, but the year I turned ten,
about 1965, I was for sale for $1,000 (that is part of the Nazi
instant millionaire game/conspiracy of silence, I did get sold
out at least two times that I know of.). -
The Nazi I lived with,
Jack Chittenden, tried to talk me into being a party girl for
politicians and pretended to give me a choice of Washington DC
or New York. He said I would have pretty dresses to wear. -
Jack could have forced me to go to Washington DC. and I didn't
have a real choice; he could have let the Nazis send me
any place they wanted. -
The point is that it is true what people
are saying about the sex ring leading to Congress. -
The real
reason I wasn't sold is because his wife insisted that they keep
me. She knew I was worth money but they had a hard time
controlling me and I resisted going anywhere out of the county
(I needed to stay and make plans for a militia.) -
Jack's wife had
promised all her siblings that they were going to be
millionaires through me someday. Her siblings would be darn mad
if I got sold and she couldn't have them turn against her and
consider contacting the FBI. -
Wes:
People in this country believe they live in a democracy and
think they have all these rights. What is your view on that? Are
all these people walking around blindfolded? -
Debra: I witnessed in
my lifetime a fascist propaganda machine that spoke the
democratic language. -
On the surface American citizens thought
they had freedom, that's what they were told. I watched as
contrary facts emerged of a political congress that was also a
religious congress all the while professing to oppose a
religious congress. -
Their system is a sinister occult one and the members are organized criminals involved in every
kind of perversion against humanity, against the nation, and
against God. -
One side we see and the other
one we don't; that secret one is emerging as evil incarnate
controlled by the very hand of Satan. -
Our nation is
run by a dual government unrecognized by its own citizens,
unconfirmed in our own news press. -
Their clandestine fascist
military is intertwined with our own forces. -
That danger of
infiltration is exactly what Missouri Militia One had to avoid.
We, the people, involved in forming our own military unit, knew our
enemy was from within. -
They
had taken us to the closest edge of extinction as they
established, without our voting permission, a
system that entrapped us. -
They were creating their own
government, creating an enemy state within our borders. -
With all things being the opposite of
reality, the Nazis called us who were the freedom fighters the
enemy of the state. -
We as a relatively new nation watched as our
citizens disappeared by the thousands every year. They were
offered up on Lucifer's altar as human sacrifices to the dark
forces that our forefathers came here to escape, the wrath of
the Papal which called itself holy while engaged in Nazism. -
We who were resistant formed our own military which promotes the
original form of democracy, -
yet knowing fully well democracy was
contrary to our Papal/congress. -
Our old form of government was one that we held
dear with all our mind set and all our being. It took from 1969
until 1984, fifteen years of covert intelligence by the secret
militia and Interpol agents, to expose the coup and therefore
stopping the handover of our flag for theirs. -
That exposure
led to a historical movement, a new covert American
military that we call Federalists, consisting of the federal
departments whose mission is to assassinate the most dangerous
minds of our time in the second revolution. -
The new
military, whose secret existence is needing to be told, needs to
emerge whether they are ready or not. It has taken more than two
decades and many of the Nazis and their sympathizers have been
taken out in what is the check mate of the coup. -
Wes:
You told me earlier that you have children with both Eric and
Carlos. From what I understand, you were never married to any of
them? -
Debra:
At the first meeting Eric and Carlos both asked me to marry them.
I replied something like, "I might not marry any of you but I
might want a love child or two." I told them that my life was
far from normal, but if it would have been normal, I would find my one love in
life and settle down and start having the family I always wanted. -
couldn't marry anyone in the biz
before 1984, when we pulled off the exposure part of the plan. -
Think of it
like this; the famous turned to us who were poor showing
that they felt deeper in the trap than we did. If I married in
the biz I couldn't be as underground as I knew I had to with
Interpol, and accomplishing my end of the plan. -
Our government
was so damaged that no one could trust anyone else. -
We were hanging out at different
taverns saying we were needing the right kind of place for
videos. The tavern owners were all very nice to us and didn't
know how important it was to the plan. -
After I got to
Tarrant county Texas in 1977, Eric and I played our roles of
stalling for time by dancing. -
We were waiting on
Interpol to make a move and they were waiting to see what Eric
and I would do, and we got in a stalemate. -
If we made a mistake
it would accelerate the coup. The first people they would have
killed would be Eric and I; they actually tried. -
In 1971 Bob
Jones said he could take me out of the country, but the Nazis
would find me and kill me and my children. I told Bob I had to stay
in my country and do what I could to fight. We all had agreed to
never give up on trying to stop the Nazis. -
The love children are protected so I can't say much.
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I told Bob I
had 'female problems' and I need help in having children. -
I told
him that I would go to Ft. Worth Texas someday because a group
of Nazis there were making the trip to my hometown. I had to
live in a county with a federal building and some FBI. -
I told
him that when he sees I'm having female problems to make the arrangement
for me to donate eggs. -
In 1979 Bob
told me about a place called AeroCrypt, where my fertilized eggs
could be stored. -
The children are all twins,
born by surrogate mothers. -
I also have twins with Bob and I'm not
allowed to see any of the kids except at a distance, except the
one son that I raised. -
Carlos and I had one son already, he
was my only single birth and according to Bob I made medical
history for having so many twins. -
At the start of the new revolution in
1984 the Federalists forced Eric and Carlos away from me, even
denying me my own children; I see them only for a minute once in
a while. No one has explained to me why after all these years;
the cover-up continues. -
Wes: What happened to Militia One after 1984?
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Debra: Missouri Militia One is still a clandestine unit
unmatched in intelligence gathering. -
I don't think anyone is
better other than Interpol who are the world's best and worked
hand in hand with us. -
It is still underground, but beginning in
1984 became a real military unit and the secret General became a
real General. -
He volunteered a lot of years out of
his life for all of us; I am greatly indebted. -
He'll retire one of these days - a hero at a
time our nation needed one. -
He was joined by
a huge team that uses force and I can't disclose much, but we
termed them the Federalists as far back as 1969. -
The missing people found alive as far as I
know were never allowed back to the families they were kidnapped
from and that makes me mad. -
At this point
I have told them to go to hell and I'm talking now because they
changed the plans. -
The victims of the mass grave sites
were never returned to the families for burial and that too
angers me. -
Since 1984 the Federalists have kept it covered up, but
a few of us victims around the nation are going public. -
The
difference between me and other people is that other people are not yet aware
of that a coup
already happened, and that a revolution is going on as we speak, one that
lasted twenty three years already. -
The news media of course know
me, but we don't have free press. If we did, the alternative media
wouldn't be a fast growing product. People need truth, people
need free press and people need their questions answered. -
Wes:
Thank you very much, Debra. This has been a very interesting and
informative interview, and I appreciate that you are opening up
to tell this story to the world, showing people what is going on
over their heads without them having a clue. It is time to wake
up to the truth, because we don't have much time. -
I, personally,
had no idea about this coup, which tells me how much is still
hidden from public view, and how much we, who research this,
still have to learn. The more I research, the more I realize
I've only hit the tip of the iceberg... -
"Many of them involved with Hitler were Satanists." Pat
Robertson Jan 21, 1993. -
Into The
Darkness
I reached into the darkness
To grasp what I could find
But couldn't get a grip
Not even on my mind
Encircled by a darkness
Like a thick fog engulfing me
Finding not my memory
Looking but couldn't see
Into the darkness I stepped
Falling to my knees
Crying for my lost mind
Dragging my soul behind me
Poem by Debra Hunter Pitts, aka Layla Cries (1996) -
It will reveal who really wrote the lyrics to
one of the most famous hit songs in the world, "Layla", played
by Derek and the Dominos in 1970, and the true murder story that
the song is revealing. -
Stay tuned for
Part 2 of the Debra Hunter Pitts interview, which will be
published soon. -
We will also continue discussing some of
the other famous faces entrapped by the Satanic Nazi groups in
the biz that led up to an all star cast in the making of an
unnamed, unreleased romantic comedy in Tarrant County. Texas, in
July 1984. -
DEBRA HUNTER PITTS ON THE AIR

UPDATE MAY 06, 2008:

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Listen to
Debra being interviewed by Gina Romano, broadcast on "The
Edge Radio", April 24, 2008. This is an excellent interview,
in which she gives even more details about what went on and
still goes on all around us.
Once the page
has loaded, scroll to 53 minutes and 40 seconds into the
program, where the interview starts. The following icon will
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^ Clapton
just released his book, "Clapton, the Autobiography". He
is still reluctant to talk about this whole thing due to that
the Government is still not willing to release this information,
but is giving hints as to where he stands. -
Here is from page
307:
"I tend toward conspiracy phobia in all things of this
nature, including politics. With the amount of money that's
at stake, I don't believe the likes of Rupert Murdoch or
George Bush are inclined to leave very much to chance. Call
me cynical, but every other week someone gets caught or
spills the beans." -
Because
Clapton is not bringing up the issue with Militia One and Debra
Pitts the book can
not be seen as an honest
attempt to tell the truth. Hopefully Eric can find courage some
time in the near future, just like Debbie has done now, to come
out with the truth. For him, though, much is at stake. Of
course, he is a very public figure (everybody knows who he is),
and he may feel his life and his career are threatened, so
therefore he does not want to mention it and sticks to the lies
and half-truths. Wes
Penre -

Wes Penre is a
researcher, journalist, the owner of the domains
Illuminati News
and
Zionist Watch and is the publisher of the
same. He has been researching Globalization and the New World
Order and exposed the big players behind the scenes for more
than a decade now. He has published his research on the Internet
at the above domains, which are currently updated to keep people
informed what is going on. You can also find his articles linked
up, discussed and republished all over the Internet. -
In addition,
he has done
spiritual research to present a
solution to the problems of this world. His MySpace website
address is:
http://www.myspace.com/wespenre.
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A former Tarrant county woman accuses the local media of watching the FBI victimise her and her family and never offered to defend her.
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Debbie Pitts a singer and dancer was a long time lover to Eric Clapton and Carlos Santana and has children with both guitarist, who often visited her in Tarrant county.
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In 1990 Ms. Pitts was told to shoot her ex husband who was a Satanist pedophile involved in missing people in the DFW area.
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She was coerced by the FBI, one of the agents was Darrel Smith and his agent wife Barbara who is twin to Debra.
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Ms. Pitts says it was part of the FBI and CIA psy-ops.
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When Pitts refused the FBI sent Clapton to talk her into it telling her that she had no choice. Her lawyer Jack Strickland and judge Sharon Wilson were pre-arrainged by the FBI before the killing.
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Pitts also says that the local media was awared that she was the only person arrested; the FBI promised a no bill but they left her in jail for over two years.
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She also says the media never one time approached her to help expose the FBI for thier role in the murder conspiracy.
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Clapton had told Pitts that the only way she could see her family is to do the killing.
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She says the FBI did all of them involved dirty and she still is not allowed contact with her two sets of twins.
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She is doing interviews and exposeing the psy-ops and calling for a boycott of the news media for not airing the truth about missing people from many states and the mass graves,
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the families were never told the bodies were found and that Satanist cults were involved.
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She also was a phychic detective who helped find missing woman, and helped the late John Catchings find Mary Till who was found dead in Dallas.
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From the time Debbie Pitts was a child, she was beaten, tortured, abused and even put in a straight jacket.
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According to Pitts, she was thrust against her will into a dark and deeply sinister Satanic cult, a cult protected by state of Missouri and federal authorities.
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And if wasn't for the grace of God, Pitts, 51, says she wouldn't be here today to tell her incredible story, a sick and devious story illustrating how the forces of evil really work.
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"As a small child, I saw a woman's body cut in half and babies cut out of the womb," said Pitts, recalling the satanic ceremonies she witnessed as a child growing up in Butler County Missouri.
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I learned quickly that nobody would help us even after my grandfather tried for many years.
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"No one would help us and the authorities because the authorities were involved.
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"Then in 1984, the federal authorities came in and removed the bodies from a mass gravesite in the woods behind the house I lived in. Since then everything has been closed up tighter than a drum and no one had been able to get any justice."
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Pitts told her story of Satanic insanity Thursday on Greg Szymanski's radio show, The Investigative Journal, a show where the truth often is hard to swallow but nevertheless told from the voices of many Americans silenced by the media's aversion to distortions and outright lies.
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Pitts claimed after being thrust into a Satanic cult as a displaced child with no mother and father, she witnessed children being used as human blood devil sacrifices, the murders of hundreds of unwanted children and women being covered up by state and federal authorities.
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"I wanted to come forward on your show because there is nobody else listening. I wanted people to know how these people operate and how they operate today."
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"As I look back and look at America now, all I can say is I told you so," said Pitts, claiming the horrors of her childhood still cause nightmares.
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Pitts claims justice has never been served and never will be served for the child subjugated to Satan until the forces of evil are rooted out of the major religious and governmental institutions of America.
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"I was beaten, tortured and put in a straight jacket," said Pitts, recalling her childhood.
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"I witnessed children being sacrificed and killed, but even to this day there has been no justice and it's hard to find anybody who has the courage to find out the truth. I know some people will think I am crazy, but this is the truth and this is what really happened."
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And this is not the first time guests have come on The Investigative Journal with stories of Satanic worshipping and devil murders.
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Although the host has been criticized for giving a forum to people who have claimed to witness blood sacrifices in both the bowels of The Vatican and the Mormon Temple in Utah, he shrugs off the criticism saying "it's about time we trust and listen to average Americans before it's too late."
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Besides her radio interview, Pitts had this to say:
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"My story can't be kept down anymore by the FBI that threatens to put me away for the rest of my life.
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Dan Rather has pictures of 300 bodies in this county in 1972 and the Feds got the evidence in 84 and the world will never see the piles of bodies that were collected, the evidence has been covered up and the governor refuses to arrest those because it would go public.
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The first sheriff I remember was about 1959 or 60 name Massingham. He put a gun to grandpa and told him to keep his mouth shut
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"I ain't healthy, but need to get my story told even if I die someday people will find out I told the truth.
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I want to start with that story, I was 4 years old. I want to describe the missing people the Satanic cult killed and the year of death. I want to name some names of people that were involved who should!
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"I was arrested two decades ago, but the governor of Missouri refuses like I said they don't intend for this to ever get over with or ever admit that it ever happened. I am disabled for brain surgery the cops refused to protect me who ar eunder FBI control.
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In 1993, a secret meeting of the Muslim Brotherhood Palestine Committee – mostly senior Hamas leaders – was held in a Philadelphia Marriott.
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The group discussed new ways to secretly funnel money to Hamas and of creating a new public relations organization to deceive the American about their true objectives of helping Hamas.
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Less than a year later, the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) was created to serve as a front group for Hamas.
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Since that time, it has morphed into a quasi legitimate "Islamic civil rights" group portrayed in some circles as the equivalent of the NAACP.
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For 14 years, CAIR got away with the lying to us about who they are, justifying Islamic terrorist attacks, legitimizing suicide bombings, presenting speakers who had been Holocaust deniers, making incendiary presentations about the United States and urging Muslims not to talk to the FBI.
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CAIR now has dozens of chapters which host annual banquets featuring not only radical speakers, but outside guests including chiefs of police, congressmen, FBI and DHS officials –
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In the trial of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, an FBI agent testified that CAIR was a front for Hamas.
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Bravo to the FBI for making the right and politically courageous decision.
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Last week, a new book, Muslim Mafia, disclosed or elaborated on many of these developments within CAIR.
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Four Congressmen, led by Sue Myrick, (R-NC), held a press conference to protest the fact that CAIR, a Hamas front group, had a plan to insert interns into key congressional committees. The book made plenty of other disclosures that were highlighted by the Congressman.
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The news website Politico whitewashed CAIR.
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Cynthia Tucker of the Atlanta Journal Constitution called CAIR a "mainstream" group unfairly targeted by right wing wackos.
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Congressmen John Conyers and Loretta Sanchez, who had done CAIR's bidding for years, were among those who leapt to CAIR's defense.
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Much of the damning information about CAIR came out well before the book, primarily through evidence in the HLF trial.
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And yet earlier this year, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ordered that CAIR officials be included in conference calls about the Middle East; the State Department even dispatched key CAIR officials – some of whom have made blatantly racist statements claiming that the reports of the Darfur genocide was actually part of a "Zionist" conspiracy – on official U.S. diplomatic missions.
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Add Sticky NoteThe Department of Homeland Security, despite being briefed that CAIR was a front group for a terrorist organization, had official meetings with CAIR. And it appointed recently as a senior advisor to DHS a member of an organization that believes that Hezbollah is a good group that should not be classified as terrorist.
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And in the last few years, National Public Radio (NPR), the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times and the Detroit News – to pick at random from the media – have become a cheerleading squad for CAIR, interviewing CAIR officials as if they were no different that Rotary Club officials while suppressing any negative information about CAIR.
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The New York Times' public editor even made the startling admission last year that it did not call Hamas a terrorist group, "though it sponsors acts of terror against Israel."
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And not all Klansmen engaged in lynching. But no one would hesitate to call out the KKK for the racism and terror at the root of its ideology and tactics.
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Where is CAIR on stoning on women? Senior CAIR officials adamantly refuse to condemn the barbaric practice of stoning Muslim women.
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Where is CAIR on Israel and Jews? Some senior CAIR officials routinely refer to Jews as "Zionazis" and top CAIR guests at their dinners – most recently former Congressman Paul Findley – blamed Israel for the horrific attacks on 9/11. Right after 9/11, top CAIR officials denied that Saudis were behind those horrific attacks.
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The free pass given to radical Islam has become a pandemic.
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The Goldstone Report, which purported to document "Israeli war crimes" in the war with Hamas in January, was one of the most dangerously one-sided, dishonest reports ever produced by the United Nations.
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Naturally the New York Times played it as a lead item on the front page without any skepticism by their reporter, who is known to take CAIR hand outs.
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The Goldstone report effectively took all of the propaganda put out by Hamas – much of it demonstrably false – and presented it as a fact.
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In yet another example of the inverted focus when it comes to radical Islam, Random House, Yale University Press, and now a German publisher, won't publish books that are "critical" of, or potentially offensive to, Muslim extremists.
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Even the much celebrated journalist Fareed Zakaria of CNN and Newsweek showed his true profile in cowardice when he advised Yale University Press not to include images of the Prophet Mohammed in a book about the controversy stirred by the 2005 publication of the Danish cartoons.
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A battle in the war against radical Islam in Detroit was briefly waged on October 28 when the FBI engaged in a deadly shootout with an extremist imam refusing to be arrested.
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The gunfire began when the FBI tried to arrest Imam Luqman Ameen Abdullah, whose original name was Christopher Thomas, for his involvement in a crime ring along with followers of his.
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His son trained about 60 youth in martial arts at the mosque and was part of what was called the “Sura team,” a group that carried guns to protect the mosque.
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Martial arts instruction isn’t the only form of paramilitary training that Ummah gave its members. The FBI affidavit said that “many” of the followers were armed and were encouraged to have guns. Some of the members were provided with firearms training.
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The group is very similar to Jamaat ul-Fuqra, a group led by Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani, a radical cleric based in Pakistan.
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The group has a branch in North America called “Muslims of the Americas” with dozens of sites and several closed-off communities in rural areas used as paramilitary training sites, some as large as 70 acres.
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The close parallels warrant an investigation by the FBI into whether Ummah has ties to Jamaat ul-Fuqra, given their common objective, type of recruits, and desire for their followers to receive guerilla warfare training.
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“Muslims of America” compounds would seem to be the natural destination of Ummah members seeking such instruction and camaraderie.
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The Ummah has also had friends in the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the prominent Muslim advocacy group that claims to be moderate but was formed originally as part of Muslim Brotherhood’s networks.
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How many more crimes will be created tomorrow that aren’t crimes today for the ATF to enforce? How many more budget increases will be granted before the “F” in ATF is completely defunded?
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You see, the 4473 DROS form is what I like to refer to as a government initiated “hoop jumping” session. This is the process by which the government makes you and the dealer jump through hoops like trained dogs in belief that if you jump hard enough and high enough, that crime will be deterred.
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We have been duped by politicians for over 40 years that gun control will reduce crime. They have continually lied, deceived and stretched the truth, but they have not dealt straight with the American people on this issue.
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With all the Republican rhetoric and grandstanding about reigning in the ATF’s budget because of their “heavy-handed” tactics against the American people, the ATF’s budget increases each and every year by millions. They have done nothing to restrain the growth of the ATF. Democrats and Republicans are both to blame. None are innocent in this.
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FBI memos from within MINUTES of the assassination chronicle what “George H.W. Bush, President of Zapata Off-Shore Drilling Company” called the FBI to report “hearsay” that someone wanted to kill President Kennedy.
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The problem: Bush reported his suspicions just minutes after JFK was dead. If he cared to stop the assassination, Bush would have reported the threat immediately. Why didn’t Bush say something sooner?
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In the following FBI memo, by J Edgar Hoover and from a week after the assassination, states a “Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency” reports that the anti-Castro (and largely anti-JFK) Cuban exile community in Miami said the assassination represents a “great loss” to the US and Latin America. The pro-Castro community, Bush apparently, says they “regret” the assassination.

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The information above connects George CIA Bush with the assassination.
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For those interested in preserving democracy in the American republic, this shadow of the Bush Octopus over the United States goes a long way toward explaining what’s gone wrong in America since November 22, 1963.
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There’s no indication of whether Poppy was there to supervise the triggermen, watch what happened or what. He's never explained these memos. He's never even admitted where he was the day JFK was killed.
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Perhaps it’s about time someone asked him to explain. Especially seeing how his dim son is engaged in an transnational campaign of mass murder and destroying the planet, it's vitally important that George H.W. Bush tell the Truth.
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Why does any of this matter? The United States and the world haven't been the same since that terrible day in Dallas. Not one major player among the nation's mass media have thought to question the Warren Commission and the official story. The nation’s media also have ignored the few political leaders who have stepped up and demanded a real investigation. So, it's up to us.
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Talbot continues:
"Top generals, spymasters, far-right congressmen, defense industry lobbyists
and anti-communist zealots all began muttering about the young man in the
Oval Office, who, in their minds, was weak and inexperienced ..."It was precisely out of this milieu of Right-Wing zealots - all of them centered
around the CIA - that those who planned JFK's assassination emanated (again,
see "IMPORTANT NOTE" above). -
Now they are gathering themselves around Obama just as they did Kennedy
so many years ago. - 98 more annotations...
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IT IS DIFFICULT ...
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It is, of course, quite difficult, even after all the startling
revelations concerning the scandalous activities of America's furtive "government
within a government" - e.g., Watergate, the Gulf or Tonkin Incident, the Pentagon Papers,
the Contra fiasco, Irangate, the MIA controversy, etc. (all deliberate government
fabrications and recognized as such by most civil libertarians) - for
most Americans to believe that Washington D.C. could be as filled with as
much horror, intrigue and deception as was ancient Rome. -
Still, according
to PBS journalist Robert MacNeil -
"... anybody would have to be a fool, nowadays, to dismiss [the] conspiracies
[of America's 'government within a government' as merely the mutterings of
a fool]. But perhaps we live in a fool's paradise ..." -
NOTE: Concerning the reality
of these "conspiracies," the late Carl Sagan was once heard to say - "Detecting
conspiracies when there are no conspiracies is a symptom of paranoia; but
detecting them when they exist is a sign of mental health." [Sagan
was referring to the JFK assassination.] -
DECEPTION
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And make no mistake about it, the DECEPTION that our "government
within a government" (which controls the national media) and its enforcer,
the CIA, deal in is truly a sinister and clandestine affair, and its influence
today in the United States has become so pervasive that it is difficult for
ordinary people to understand where truth leaves off, and lies begin. -
Indeed, this is so much the case that one must continually ask himself when
dealing with the so-called "truths" the government is peddling
to the people whether or not there is any factual basis for
what they are purveying; for example, whether or not America's
immense military machine is for our defense (as the government
tells us), or whether or not its main purpose is to enforce
order on America's slave-states; or whether or not America is
in Iraq to "build democracy" (as the government tells us), or
whether it is there to rob the people of Iraq of their oil wealth
- and on and on and on ad infinitum. [Please see our
article, "The Corporate State and
the Mass Media."] -
The fact is, the twilight zone of truth and lies that encompasses
us today is so massive that the Bible takes special note of it (cf.
Mat. 24:24) by warning Christians not to be misled by it at the "time of the
end" - and this warning is very, very apropos because in order to be
carried away by this deception, there has to be - and this is important -
a certain willingness on the part of the deceived to be deceived; specifically,
a certain DILEBERATE inclination to be "misled." -
In other words, there has to be a certain readiness on the part of
those who are being deceived to be deceived - and thus the fault insofar as deception is concerned rests
not only with those who are doing the deceiving, but also with those who are
being deceived. IT'S FOR THIS REASON THAT THE JUDGMENT OF GOD IS SO SEVERE
INSOFAR AS "BABYLON THE GREAT" IS CONCERNED; IT'S A JUDGMENT THAT WILL FALL
NOT ONLY ON AMERICA'S ELITES, BUT ALSO ON AMERICA'S PEOPLE. -
The very real fact of the matter is, the truth behind the activities
of America's vile "government within a government" - e.g., the JFK assassination,
the RFK assassination, the MLK assassination, Watergate, the Gulf or Tonkin
Incident, the Pentagon Papers, the Contra fiasco, Irangate, the MIA controversy,
the October Surprise, the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, 9-11, and on
and on ad infinitum - can be ferreted out if one wants to do so - and
this despite the reality that America's "government within a government" controls
the national media. -
It is, after all, not that difficult to ferret this information
out; the fact that the great majority of the American people
still believe what the elites tell them regarding these incidents
is proof that they really don't want to know the truth concerning
these matters - just like most of the German people refused
to believe that their government was slaughtering the Jews. -
The fact that all the Jews in their midst had disappeared, the
fact that cattle cars filled with Jews were passing through
Germany from Hungary to Auschwitz in plain sight of the German
people - none of these things could make most Germans face up
to what was really happening. And so also with Americans today.
[Please see our articles, "Conspiracy
Theories," MK-Ultra and
the Search for the Manchurian Candidate" and "Now
Is the Time to Do Something; It May Be Too Late Tomorrow."] -
AMERICA'S GOVERNMENT WITHIN A
GOVERNMENT VS. BARAK OBAMA -
It's precisely this "studied" and very deliberate ignorance on the
part of most Americans that makes possible what America's "government within
a government" is doing - AND THAT, ipso facto, PLACES BARAK OBAMA
IN SUCH GRAVE PERIL, -
a man who like Kennedy is not disposed to go along
with its plans for imposing the avarice and brutality of the American New
World Order System on the rest of the world. -
Thus, when America's "government
within a government" deems it necessary to kill Obama, it believes that it
can count on the American people to look the other way as they did with the
JFK, RFK and MLK assassinations, and to chalk it up to a lone gunman like
Lee Harvey Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan, or James Earl Ray. -
AND THERE IS PLENTY TO
WHICH OBAMA WILL OBJECT -
And there can be no doubt about it, there is plenty that America's
"government within a government" is up to that Obama will object to, just
as Kennedy objected to what it was doing in Cuba (the Bay of Pigs) and Vietnam. -
For example, take what America's "government within a government" is up to
in Central Asia and on the Indian sub-continent. -
For some time now, America's "government within a government" has
been deliberately involved in a plan to destabilize this entire region. Speaking
concerning this effort, British journalist Andrew Marshall - commenting on
a series of bombings in New Delhi on September 13, 2008 (2 months prior to
the recent terror attacks in Mumbai) - writes:
"Recent terror attacks in New Delhi on September 13, 2008, raise the questions
of who was responsible and for what reason these attacks occurred.
Terror attacks in India are not a new phenomenon; however,
in their recent past, they can be largely attributed to the
actions, finances, training and resources of one organization:
The Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI). These new
bombings bare the same relationship with the ISI as has occurred
in the past, and so it must be asked: what is the purpose
of the ISI both in Central Asia as well as South Asia? [Please
see our article, "Promoting Chaos
in the Interests of the American New World Order System."] -
Marshall answers his own question:
"The ISI appears to play the role of a force for the destabilization of Central
Asia, India and the Middle East. It acts as a Central Asian
base of operations for the CIA to carry out American imperial
aims." [Again, please see our article, "Promoting
Chaos in the Interests of the American New World Order System."] -
PAKISTAN'S ISI IS MERELY A
TOOL IN THE HANDS OF THE CIA -
The media portrays the ISI as a "rogue force" not answerable to anyone;
now while that may be true insofar as government officials in Pakistan are
concerned, IT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE INSOFAR AS THE CIA IS CONCERNED. -
The ISI is the creation of the CIA - at least in its modern form
when it was transformed by the CIA into a puppet agency of the organization
in 1977; at that time, the ISI was oriented against India by the CIA because
India was considered to be inimical to the interests of the United States
due to its independent stand as a leader in the "Non-Aligned Group of Nations." -
In addition - and under the tutelage of the CIA - the ISI was expanded and
made responsible for the collection of intelligence about the Sindh based
Communist party and monitoring the Shia organization after the Iranian revolution
of 1979, as well as monitoring various political parties in Pakistan such
as the Pakistan People's Party (PPP). -
NOTE: The Pakistan
People's Party is the Party of Benazir Bhutto, who was assassinated
recently - most likely by the CIA because of her promise
to break up the ISI. Her son, Bilawal Bhutto is now
the head of the PPP - something that cannot but be a matter
of great concern to the US, and a reason why America's "government
within a government" is moving so mightily to destabilize
Pakistan and break up the country. This is exactly what
the US did to Yugoslavia when Milosevic refused to go along
with America's (and Germany's) effort to "de-socialize"
Yugoslavia and open the country up for exploitation by American
(and German) multi-national corporations. [Please see our
articles, "Kosovo and America:
What's Going On?" and "More
Lies and Deception Concerning Kosovo."] -
THE ISI AND THE ISLAMIC MUJAHEDIN
-
The Soviet-Afghan war of the 1980s saw the enhancement of the covert
action capabilities of the ISI by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).
THIS MARKED THE BEGINNING OF THE CIA'S RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MUJAHADIN
VIA THE ISI. -
The ISI became the CIA's conduit into the Mujahadin; from this point onward, the Mujahadin
was transformed into a tool for the CIA - both in Pakistan and in Afghanistan. -
A special Afghan Section was created under the command of colonel Mohammed
Yousaf to oversee the coordination of the war against the Soviet forces in
Afghanistan. A number of officers from the ISI's Covert Action Division received
training in the US and many covert action experts of the CIA were attached
to the ISI to guide it in its operations against the Soviet troops. -
AND JUST HOW MUCH A TOOL THE ISI HAS BECOME IN THE HANDS
OF THE CIA WAS MADE CLEAR IN ITS ROLE IN THE TURMOIL CAUSED
BY THE CIA IN YUGOSLAVIA AND LATER IN 9-11. -
In Yugoslavia,
the ISI recruited Mujahadin fighters to support America's war
in support of the breakaway state of Bosnia from the Yugoslav
Federation. It sent fighters into Bosnia, Macedonia and Kosovo
to sow chaos and exacerbate ethnic tensions against the Serbs,
leading to the break-up of Yugoslavia. -
All this was done with
the tacit approval, support and complicity of the CIA. [Again,
please see our articles, "Kosovo
and America: What's Going On?" and "More
Lies and Deception Concerning Kosovo."] -
The ISI also played a roll in 9/11 itself, as its General was
in Washington in the lead up to and during the 9/11 attacks, meeting
with top intelligence, State Department and Congressional officials,
including CIA Director George Tenet, Deputy Secretary of State
Richard Armitage, Secretary of State Colin Powell, Senator Bob
Graham and Representative Porter Goss, who would go on to become
CIA director. -
The ISI's General, while meeting with all these
top US officials in foreign affairs and intelligence, also happened
to be the money man behind 9/11, having wired $100,000 to the
lead 9/11 hijacker, Mohammed Atta. -
[Please see our article, "The
Events of September 11, 2001: What's Going On?"; please
see our article, "Lies and Deceit
in the Service of the American New World Order System."] -
THE MUMBAI TERRORIST ATTACKS
-
These twin incidents - i.e., (1) the ISI's involvement with the CIA
in the breakup of the former Yugoslavia and (2) the ISI's involvement in 9-11
- indicate clearly the toady relationship the ISI has with the CIA (and America's
"government within a government"). -
The very real fact of the matter is, the ISI is the CIA's handmaiden
in Central Asia and on the Indian subcontinent - AND IT IS WITH THIS IN
MIND THAT ALL THE ATTACKS THAT HAVE BEEN CARRIED OUT IN INDIA BY THE MUJHADIN
IN THE LAST DECADE AND A HALF MUST BE SEEN AS HAVING THEIR GENESIS WITH THE
CIA, e.g., the September 13, 2008 bombing in New Delhi, the 1993 bombing
in Mumbai, the 2006 bombing in Mumbai, and now the most recent terrorist attack,
again in Mumbai. -
Dr. Michel Chossudovsky, a well-known economist at the University
of Ottawa, and a member of the Transnational Foundation for Peace and Future
Research, agrees with British journalist Andrew Marshall: That America's fingerprints
are all over these attacks. -
He elaborates on this by describing what he has
learned about the recent terrorist attacks in Mumbai:
"The Mumbai terror attacks were part of a carefully planned and coordinated
operation involving several teams of experienced and trained gunmen. The operation
has the fingerprints of a paramilitary-intelligence operation [meaning the
CIA]. -
"The attacks were carried out simultaneously in several locations, within
minutes of each other. The first target was in the main hall of Mumbai's
Chatrapati Shivaji Terminus railway station (CST), where the gunmen fired
indiscriminately into the crowd of passengers. The gunmen 'then ran out of
the station and into neighboring buildings, including Cama Hospital'. Attacks
by separate groups of gunmen took place at two of Mumbai's luxury hotels -
the Oberoi-Trident and the Taj Mahal Palace, located at the heart of the tourist
area, within proximity of the Gateway of India. -
"The gunmen also opened fire at Café Leopold, a stylish restaurant in the
tourist area. The third target was Nariman House, a business center which
houses Chabad Lubavitch, Mumbai's Jewish Center. Six hostages including the
Rabbi and his wife were killed. -
"A virtually unknown group called 'the Deccan Mujahideen', has according
to reports, claimed responsibility for these attacks. The Deccan Plateau refers
to a region of central-Southern India largely centered in the State of Andhra
Pradesh. This unknown group has already been categorized [by the CIA], without
supporting evidence, as belonging to the Al Qaeda network of terrorist
organizations. -
"Police reports confirm that nine 'suspected attackers' have been arrested
and three of the attackers have, according to unconfirmed police sources,
confessed to belonging to Lashkar-e-Taiba (LET) [Lashkar-e-Tayyiba], a Pakistani
Kasmiri separatist organization, covertly supported by Pakistani military
intelligence (ISI). At least one of the arrested, according to the reports,
is a British citizen of Pakistani descent." -
THE USUAL SUSPECT: AL QAEDA
-
Chossudovsky notes with some disdain the attempt by the Western press
(at the behest of the CIA) to pass the blame for the attack off on Al Qaeda: -
"In chorus, both the Western and Indian media are pointing fingers at Pakistan
and its alleged support of Islamic terrorist organizations. The Washington
Post reports:
'Strategic gurus and security analysts in the US and from across the world
are examining Pakistan's role in terrorism following yet another terror
episode in India ending with fingers pointed at its widely-reviled neighbor
...
'The US media has centered its attention on the links between the Mumbai
attacks and the "resurgent terrorist groups [which] enjoy havens in
Pakistan's tribal areas as well as alleged protection or support from elements
of Pakistani intelligence'." -
Chossudovsky continues:
"According to the media, the enemy is Al Qaeda, the illusory 'outside
enemy' which has its operational bases in the tribal areas and North West
Frontier Province of Pakistan. Washington's self-proclaimed holy mandate under
the 'Global War on Terrorism' is to take out bin Laden and extirpate Islamic
fundamentalism." -
BLAMING THE ATTACK OF AL QAEDA GIVES THE
U.S. CARTE BLANCHE TO INTERVENE IN PAKISTAN -
Chossudovsky explains what's happening here: That the Mumbai attack
is an attempt by the same people who got the United States involved in the
War in Iraq to wrap up what's happening in Pakistan under the mantle of the
"War on Terror," thus giving the U.S. the right to intervene (and destabilize)
Pakistan:
"America's right to intervene militarily inside Pakistan in violation of
Pakistan's sovereignty is therefore upheld. Bombing villages in the tribal
areas of North West Pakistan is part of a 'humanitarian endeavor', in response
to the loss of life resulting from the Mumbai attacks." -
Chossudovsky says that the terrorist attacks in Mumbai are nothing
less than "AMERICA'S TROJAN HORSE" - A TROJAN HORSE THAT HAS LITTLE
CONNECTION TO THE PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN, THE PPP, THE GOVERNMENT OF PAKISTAN,
OR BILAWAL BHUTTO. -
The terrorists are linked to Al Qaeda. The Mumbai attacks are a "State
sponsored" operation involving Pakistan's ISIThe Mumbai gunmen have ties to terrorist groups in Pakistan's tribal
areas and North West Frontier Province.The continued bombing of the tribal areas by the US Air Force in violation
of Pakistan's' sovereignty is consequently justified as part of the 'Global
War on Terrorism'."
He explains:
"The media reports point, in chorus, to the involvement of Pakistan's Military
Intelligence, the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), without mentioning that
the ISI invariably operates in close liaison with the CIA. The US media
indelibly serves the interests of the US intelligence apparatus. What is implied
by these distorted media is that:
-
However, this is nonsense! Chossudovsky elaborates:
"Were the ISI to have been involved in a major covert operation directed
against India, the CIA would have prior knowledge regarding the precise nature
and timing of the operation. The ISI does not act without the consent of
its US intelligence counterpart." -
Foster divisions between Pakistan and India and shunt the process of
bilateral cooperation and trade between the two countries;Promote internal social, ethnic and sectarian divisions in both India
and Pakistan;Justify US military actions inside Pakistan including the killing of
civilians in violation of the country's territorial sovereignty;Provide a justification for extending the US led "war on terrorism"
into the Indian sub-continent and South East Asia.
In other words, it's not so much the Pakistani government that is
involved here as it is the CIA. Chossudovsky goes on to say:
"Washington (meaning America's "government within a government") is intent
on using the Mumbai attacks to:
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NONE OF THESE THINGS ARE CALCULATED
TO MAKE OBAMA & HIS ADHERENTS HAPPY -
Very obviously, none of these things are calculated to make
Obama very happy. Obama was elected to the presidency to put
an end to these kinds of shenanigans and machinations - shenanigans
and machinations that have their origin with those elements
in the United States that killed JFK, RFK and MLK; the same
people who, paradoxically, have allied themselves with American
evangelicals to "conquer the world for Christ and the church." -
[We URGE you to see our articles, "The
God-Men of the American New World Order System"
and "Today's Church: Making
Zombies out of Christians - the Prophets and Apostles Movement;"
we also URGE you to see our article, "McCain
and Palin: The Business Right Marries the Religious Right."] -
There are many, of course, who believe that Barak Obama is nothing
more than an "OPPORTUNIST;" that all he wants to be is president, and
that he is more than willing to bend to the wishes of America's "elite of
power." -
But I believe otherwise; I believe he is a genuine idealist who
in the end - like Kennedy - will refuse to go along with the dictates of America's
"government within a government," AND THIS CANNOT HELP BUT BRING HIM
INTO COLLISION WITH THE SAME PEOPLE WHO KILLED KENNEDY. -
AN AMERICAN COUP D'ETAT
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In October of 2006 I wrote in an article entitled, "An American Coup d'Etat" the following:
"In the April 2006 edition of Harper's Magazine, the editors of Harper's
pulled together a panel of distinguished experts to discuss the possibility
of an American coup d'etat - one carried out by the American military
in the interest of the American "military-industrial complex" and
those who support the further expansion of the American New World Order System. -
Harper Magazine's scenario
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"Bill Wasik, a senior editor at Harper's and the panel's moderator,
introduced the subject by suggesting:
'Eternal vigilance being the price of liberty, Americans - who spent decades
wargaming a Soviet invasion and have taken more recently to daydreaming about
'ticking bomb' scenarios - should cast at least an occasional thought toward
the only truly existential threat that American democracy might face today. -
WE NOW LIVE IN A UNIPOLAR WORLD [i.e., A WORLD UTTERLY DOMINATED BY THE
ECONOMIC, POLITICAL AND MILITARY MIGHT OF THE UNITED STATES] ... IN WHICH
CONQUEST OF THE UNITED STATES BY AN OUTSIDE POWER IS ... INCONCEIVABLE. EVEN
THE BEST-EQUIPPED TERRORISTS, FOR THEIR PART, COULD DISPATCH AT MOST A CITY
OR TWO ... -
To subdue America entirely, the only route remaining would
be to seize the machinery of state itself, to steer it toward malign ends
- to carry out, that is, a [military] COUP D'ETAT'. -
"An American military coup d'etat has, of course, never really been
tried by those who inhabit the lofty but shadowy and indistinct world of the
ultra-rich, and who desperately fear the 'pedestrian egalitarianism' of the
masses which they see as a leveling agency which - if left unchecked - would
strip them of their riches and consign them to the coarse plain of the 'common
man'. -
"They have, of course, never flinched from murder and assassination [even
regicide (e.g., President Kennedy)] to accomplish their aims and steer the
'ship of state' in a direction amenable to their ends (e.g., the MK-Ultra
'hits' of Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King, and the minor 'hits' of 'lesser
lights' such as Gary Webb and Judi Bari who desperately tried to 'speak truth
to power'); but an actual coup d'etat? - No, they've never tried that
before; they've NEVER DARED to try that before. -
The Ultra-rich and the Common man
-
"To the ultra-rich, the Founding Fathers of the American Revolution were
anything but champions of equality; they were, rather, the fervent defenders
of inequality. Indeed, Richard J. Herrnstein, who held the Edgar Pierce Chair
in Psychology at Harvard University before his death in 1992, and Charles
Murray, who is a Bradley Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI)
wrote:
'The Founders wrote frankly about the inequality of men. For Thomas Jefferson,
it was obvious that ... (people) were especially unequal in virtue and intelligence.
He was thankful for a 'natural aristocracy' that could counterbalance the
deficiencies of the others, an 'aristocracy of virtue and talent, which
Nature has wisely provided for the direction of the interests of society'
... -
"They continued:
'The other founders, including Madison, Hamilton, and Washington - ruminated
in the same vein (as Jefferson) about the inequality of men and the political
implications of that inequality ... The perversions ... (implicit) in the
egalitarian ideal that began with the French Revolution and have been so
plentiful in the twentieth century are not accidents of history ... Egalitarian
tyrannies, whether of the Jacobite or the Leninist variety, are worse than
inhumane. They are inhuman'. -
"AND WHAT WOULD THE TEST BE THAT WOULD SEPARATE MEN OF 'TALENT', 'VIRTUE'
AND 'INTELLIGENCE' FROM THE REST OF MANKIND? MONEY, OF COURSE! -
It is
the 'Horatio Alger Myth' taken to its demonic extreme: Those who possess great
wealth prove themselves by their success in a Darwinian, economic struggle
of 'survival of the fittest' qualified to rule. -
Those who do not possess great
wealth, prove themselves 'unfit' to rule - and, as a result, they do not deserve
the right to have a say in the governance of the country. -
And one must remember
here that in the ultra-rich's estimation, financial success is not to be measured
in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, but in the millions and millions
of dollars - even in the billions of dollars. -
The "Up-To-Now" impossibility
of A Coup d'Etat by the Rich -
"The problem that has existed for the ultra-rich, however, is that very few
people in the United States have been willing to cede control of their lives
over to the ultra-rich in the absolutist manner the ultra-rich demand. -
And
to complicate things further, the American military has been too representative
of the population of the nation as a whole to be counted on by the ultra-rich
in a coup attempt. -
Moreover - according to Edward Luttwak, a senior
advisor at the Center for Strategic and International Studies and a second
member of the Harper's panel - even if the ultra-rich could get the
upper echelons of the military to go along with their coup attempt
-
'You [i.e., the perpetrators of the coup] would sit in the office
of the Secretary of Defense, and the first place where you wouldn't be obeyed
would be inside your office. If they did follow orders inside your office,
then people in the rest of the Pentagon wouldn't. If everybody in the Pentagon
followed orders, people out in the military bases wouldn't. If they did
as well, Americans citizens would still not accept your legitimacy'. -
"Luttwak continues:
'It just wouldn't work ... You could go down the list and take over this
headquarters, that headquarters, the White House, the Defense Department,
the television, the radio, and so on. You could arrest all the leaders,
detain or kill off their families. And you would have accomplished nothing'. -
"Andrew J. Bacevich, a professor of international relations at Boston University
and a third member of the panel, agrees with Luttwak:
'That's right. What are you going to seize that, after seizing it, gives
you control of the country'?
"Luttwak goes on:
'You could shut down the media [in an effort to further your cause], but
even if you did shut down the media, you still wouldn't be able to rule.
Because, remember, in order to actually rule, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ACCEPTANCE.
Think of Saddam Hussein: he was not a very, you know, popular leader, but
he did have to be obeyed at the very minimum by his security forces, his
Republican Guards. SO THERE IS A MINIMUM GROUP THAT ONE NEEDS IN ORDER
TO CONTROL ANY COUNTRY. In this country ... [you have never had such
a group]'. -
The Times "They Are Changing"
-
"However, according to all the members of the Harper's panel, things
have been changing in the country - and so much so that it is at last at least
conceivable to seriously consider the possibility of a military coup d'etat: -
the two things that have prevented a coup in the country up to this point
- (1) the lack of a military that would obey the ultra-rich in such an attempt,
and (2) the shortage of a minimum group in the population as a whole that
would accept the results of a military coup - no longer constitute
the hindrances they once did. -
The fact is, there is growing evidence that
the military - under certain circumstances - would take part in such a coup,
and there is even more evidence that suggests there now exists a substantial
part of the population that would accept the authoritarian results of a successful
coup. -
Indeed, so much have things changed in this direction that Bacevich
wonders:
'... whether, in fact, we're not already experiencing what is in essence
a creeping coup d'etat'. -
"This does not mean, however, that a MAJORITY per se (or even
a plurality of differing and competing factions) in the country would ever
support such a coup - after all, a coup would not be necessary
if that were the case. Coups become necessary precisely and only because
such majorities (or even pluralities) do not exist. A coup d'etat implies
that the use of military and police power are necessary to impose the will
of those who support the coup on the rest of the population. But even
here - as Luttwak suggests - there still remains the necessity of a -
'... a minimum group [in the population] that one needs in order to control
any country'. -
The Culture Wars: Creating the "Minimum Group"
-
"That minimum group now exists in the country as a whole - and it has largely
been created out of the 'CULTURE WAR' that has gripped the nation over
the past twenty to thirty years: THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT THAT NOW ESSENTIALLY
FORMS THE BACKBONE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. -
"The Religious Right today commands an astounding ONE-THIRD of the
entire American population, and while there is little evidence that it possesses
the ability to expand its popular base of 'TRUE-BELIEVERS' (as opposed
to occasional supporters and 'fair-weather friends') much beyond this figure,
this is still an astounding number of people that the ultra-rich have managed
to gather about them. And make no mistake about it, this 'CULTURE WAR'
is real war, and it has irrevocably divided the country into two warring camps
where there appears to be no 'middle ground'. -
"Indeed, it is becoming increasingly clear that in this war, there can be
only 'winners' and 'losers' - and that's exactly the way the
ultra-rich want this struggle to appear as: a WAR.
Why? - because in a war, the use of military and police power
can be justified as an essential part of the struggle. IN
THIS KIND OF WAR, IT DOESN'T TAKE LONG FOR WORDS TO TRANSFORM
THEMSELVES INTO BULLETS THAT KILL." [We URGE you
to see our article, "An American
Coup d' Etat."] -
OBAMA AND THE "GOVERNMENT
WITHIN A GOVERNMENT" -
All this brings us back to what we indicated in the opening
paragraph of this article:
"Forty-five years ago President John F. Kennedy (JFK) was assassinated in
Dallas, Texas. He was targeted to be killed by 'a government within a government'
that was concerned that he didn't 'have the balls' to be president; that he
was unprepared to use America's immense military strength to carry out the
wishes of America's 'elite of power'. Now Obama is in danger of running
afoul of this same "elite of power" if he is not very, very careful." -
It's for this reason that - once again - we urge you to be careful of how you
use the "IN-BETWEEN TIME" that we are currently
in. [Please see our last article, "A
Disaster Is Stalking Obama in the Middle East."] -
This is no time for complacency! Use the time you have been given
wisely. Arm yourself with "THAT SURE WORD OF PROPHECY" -
"... whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth
in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts."
(2 Peter 1:19) -
Remember, brothers and sisters, what prophecy is
all about: It is, as we have said so many times
before, like a road-sign telling us that there is a "blind curve"
ahead (a curve that we cannot at the moment see) and to slow down; if we fail
to do so, we will surely slide off the road and crash. Obviously, then, when
we fail to take advantage of the time between when we see the road-sign and
when we finally see the "blind curve," we defeat the entire purpose
of that road-sign and - ipso facto - of prophecy. -
Deception is everywhere, and the only thing we have to hold
onto is the Word of God. -
It's in the light of these facts that we URGE you to
acquaint yourselves with what's happening today.
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