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06 Jul 09

Are fans telling friends? If not, improve, don’t promote. | Derek Sivers

  • The most powerful philosophy of marketing I’ve heard is from my hero Seth Godin, and I think it can be summed up as this:



    You’ll know when you’re on to something special, because people will love it so much they’ll tell everyone.



    If people aren’t telling their friends about it yet, don’t waste time marketing it. Instead, keep improving until they are.

  • But now the goal is to create something absolutely remarkable, until customer word-of-mouth generates a buzz.



    And that’s only limited by your creativity and persistence, not budget.

02 May 09

Hacker News | Ask HN: Anyone Use Affiliate Networks to Acquire Customers?

  • I can comment on this from the perspective of an affiliate promoting products on networks like CJ. Affiliate programs can be a very profitable way to gain customers, but there are lots of issues that come up. In particular:

    -Before your product is listed on an affiliate network, you need to put down a significant investment- mid to high $XX,XXX as a prepayment to the network

    -Especially for a webapp, there could be issues of rampant fraud-affilites using VCCs to sign up and so on- this is something you will need to be proactive about filtering out

    -Products that do well on affiliate networks have a large target market- if your webapp is niche affiliates won't bother to take the time to set up campaigns to promote your product

  • Regards to the prepayment, you sure there aren't networks that just bill when fees are due?

    Regards to fraud, that's definitely a real issue.

    Regards to niche, from what I've learned from doing some affiliate work and research, niche is extremely important and much desired by affiliates - even though my product isn't narrowly targeted - just saying..

22 Dec 08

Seth's Blog: What is viral marketing?

  • If you want to do viral marketing, you can try to come up with a viral ad, but you'll probably fail. You're better off building the viral right into the product, creating a product that spreads because you designed it that way.



    Viral marketing only works well when you plan for it, when you build it in, when you organize your offering to be spreadable, interesting and to work better for everyone involved when it spreads. If I don't benefit from spreading it, why should I spread it? I won't. If you don't benefit from your users spreading the idea, it might spread, but it won't help you much. So both elements have to be present.

  • Being viral isn't the hard part. The hard part is making that viral element actually produce something of value, not just entertainment for the client or your boss.
16 Nov 08

Hacker News | Balsamiq hits $100,000 in revenue

  • The "build a great product and they will come" myth is bullshit 99% of the time (unless you have a built in marketing engine-- SEO or viral). Balsamiq won the same reason that 37s did (and JoelonSoftware for that matter)... They had a great story, told it well, and the story happened to resonate/be interesting to their exact target market (web geeks / entrepreneurs).

    Bravo!

    But try to build great software for supply chain management, or managing a beauty parlor and let me know how "everything else will follow" there. There's a reason that SalesForce.com (which, arguably, has/had a great product) has spent 60-70% of their topline on sales and marketing.

  • Personally, I feel that we worry way too much about keeping our source code top-secret. One reason people think source code is valuable is because "the resulting product is valuable, so therefore the source code is even more valuable, right?" ... well, no. The product is valuable because of the thousands of small decisions you made as you were developing the product. The source code is just the manifestation of those decisions. In other words, the product is valuable because of its design, not because of the source code that describes that design. Just because someone has access to a product's source code doesn't mean they can make valuable decisions about it. And if they can't do that, then they can't "steal" your hard work by building on top of it and selling it. They just don't have the domain experience to do that. Plus, they would always be slightly behind you in terms of development, because you're constantly adding new features and fixing bugs.
29 Oct 08

Six hours in: launching a niche microsite | Raleigh Web Design & Development | New Media Campaigns

    • Send to friends and family - Everyone on the NMC team sent the project to their friends and family, encouraging them to pass along to others.  This was kind of a light launch that let us fix any problems that arose, knowing that the visitors would "love us no matter what" as my grandma told me when her district's screenshot didn't appear correctly.  This led to a good first wave of traffic and gave the voting some momentum, encouraging others to vote when they got to the site.
    • Distribute to Favorite Social Networks - For this stage, we all posted on the social networks that we spend the most time on, which are still composed of mainly friends, but more distant than in stage 1.  We each posted the link as our Facebook status, Tweeted it (follow me for more updates on the site), put up as our Gchat away message, and a couple more.  This round was really successful, leading to several re-tweets (including from complete strangers), and getting picked up by a North Carolina newspaper's blog.
    • Email out to list of political contacts - As a political web design firm, we have a pretty sizable amount of consultants and campaigns that we work with, who we knew would be interested in the site.  We sent them all individual emails, encouraging them to try the site out.  This resulted in some good feedback and even a call from a contact that we hadn't spoke to in months who wanted to hire us to work on a new site (nice!).  In addition to just our personal political clients, we also sent out an email to each contact from the campaigns featured on the site, letting them know that they had been highlighted and to let us know if they had any feedback or changes for us.
    • Continue Blogging about the project - Over the next few days, we'll be continually blogging about the project, the programming behind it, and it's coverage.  By continuing to create good content about the site, visitors to our main site are likelier to go to it, it can spark interest in different web communities, and will more likely get indexed by Google.
    • Submitting to popular news aggregators - This is the stage where we really try and take the views to the next level.  We'll be submitting to Digg, Reddit, Hacker News, and some others.  If it gains steam, these sites could drive some serious traffic.
    • Reaching out to industry decision makers - In this stage, we'll reach out to the big time players, such as Politico, large newspaper blogs, and other relevant sites.  Hopefully, they will like the idea, see that it has already been fairly popular, and write up the site.  This would result in huge traffic and give the site a lot of credibility.  This would be the ultimate win.
28 Oct 08

Coding Horror: The One Thing Every Software Engineer Should Know

  • Whatever you think, think the opposite
    • This is painful for developers to hear, because we love code. But all that brilliant code is totally irrelevant until:



      1. people understand what you're doing
      2. people become interested in what you're doing
      3. people get excited about what you're doing
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19 Oct 08

Reccomended Web Strategy Reading

  • I started my social media career at Hitachi Data Systems (I’ll actually be speaking to Hitachi in Tokyo this coming week) and eventually become the online community manager. One of the keys to being a successful community person is to be a resource (or lethal generosity) to the entire industry you want to serve –rather then just a vendor pitching jockey.


    In the spirit of sharing, over the past few weeks in client calls, I’ve referenced these posts several times, one of the challenges of my blog layout is that it’s difficult to find the most visited or commented posts, here’s some I think you’d enjoy.

The Key to Effective Viral Marketing is Emotional Engagement

  • People encounter specific data or ideas daily and pass it on to their friends and other people in their network. All things equal, one can say that information is shared more rapidly when the recipient has a strong emotional connection with the specific message. They adore it. They despise it. They are deeply puzzled by it. It makes them upset. It makes them happy.
27 Feb 08

David Rusenko - The importance of launching early and staying alive

  • Here's two of our graphs from May 8th 2007 -- five months after we moved out to San Francisco and had been working on the product full-time:

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20 Jun 07

Seven steps to remarkable customer service - Joel on Software

  • Almost every tech support problem has two solutions. The
    superficial and immediate solution is just to solve the customer’s problem. But
    when you think a little harder you can usually find a deeper solution: a way to
    prevent this particular problem from ever happening again.
  • For us, the “fix everything two ways” religion has really
    paid off. We were able to increase our sales tenfold while only doubling
    the cost of providing tech support.
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