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O(blog N) » California’s Open-Document Bill: AB 1668
Tags: california, mandates, odf, ooxml on 2007-12-04 -All Annotations (0) -About
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- +1 ODF in California. A good summary of the issues.post by garyedwards on 2007-04-13
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I have an email apparently originating from Microsoft asking people to support their opposition to California A.B. 1668 - Open Document Format, Open Source. by writing to the California Assemblymen involved in this bill. This email has contact information for the Assemblymen involved, and a lot of information about their position regarding ODF.
EU-IDABC ODEF Workshop 2007 in Berlin - Documentation - presentations
Tags: california, davinci, interop, iso, massachusetts, oasis, odef, odf, ooxml, opendocument, politics, xml on 2007-10-01 -All Annotations (0) -About
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- ODF officially died on February 28, 2007, at the Advanced eGovernment Conference in Berlin. Hellow ODEFpost by garyedwards on 2007-06-05
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IDABC ODEF Workshop 2007 in Berlin
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As information exchange in and with public administrations is very often bound to documents, editing, archiving and exchange possibilities for documents are crucial for the optimum function of administrations, both in terms of practicality and cost.Initiatives such as the PEGSCO Recommendations on Open Document Formats published by the IDABC Management Committee, demonstrate public administrations preference for "open" document exchange and storage formats that are subject to formal standardisation via international standardisation procedures.The primary objectives of the Berlin event, held at the German Federal Ministry of the Interior (BMI), were to:
- compile further input from Member State public administrations on their experiences and strategies on ODEF
- gather industry viewpoints on the initiatives relating to ODEF standardization and information on future standardisation developments
- provide a platform for exchange between stakeholders in public administrations and main industry players
The program of the workshop included, among other:
ODEF Strategies: Examples from European Administration
Practical Experiences with the implementation of ODEF
Report on ODEF-Standardisation activities
4 parallel sessions with participants
A panel discussion with stakeholders
CALIFORNIA Final Report on MS Anti Trust Settlement
Tags: anti-trust, california, doj, microsoft, settlement on 2007-09-03 -All Annotations (0) -About
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- California has filed their final report assessing the effectiveness of the USA Department of Justice Anti Trust Settlement with Microsoft. The report studies the effect of remedies proposed in the Settlement. The conclusion being that there were no remedial effects. In fact, the opposite has happened. The Settlement has done nothing to constrain Microsoft's illegal monopoly, and competition has not been restored. Instead of a remedy, Microsoft has extended their monopoly from the desktop to servers.post by garyedwards on 2007-09-03
GullFOSS: It's our way or the highway. So what if new cool features = Zero Interop? Download OOo and get over it already!
Tags: california, davinci, interop, iso, massachusetts, oasis, odef, odf, ooxml, opendocument, politics, xml on 2007-06-10 -All Annotations (0) -About
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- The chuckleheads at Sun's StarOffice/OpenOffice Hamburg office respond to Florian's comprehensive lis tof suggestions to greatly improve ODF interoperability.post by garyedwards on 2007-06-05
- Make no mistake about it. Microsoft is absolutely right about three things:post by garyedwards on 2007-06-10
.... Compatibility with existing file formats is not an ODF concern.
.... Sun controls the OASIS ODF TC.
.... Sun makes certain that ODF is bound tightly to the OpenOffice feature set.
Sun's view of interoperability is that of a one way street. Documents can be converted into ODF-OOo/SO, but they are guaranteed to break during any kind of document routing or round tripping.
This is also the reason why the Sun "external" plugin for MSOffice fails. One way conversion simply isn't enough to crack the hold MSOffice has on critical day to day business processes. The only way to that is with a conversion process able to maintain high level fidelity while round tripping.
As the EU IDABC has figured out, the ODF-OOo/SO specification is loaded with interoperability break points. That's why they are turning to ODEF, which can be seen as a version of ODF that is truly application independent and optimized for interoperability.
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When such new features that enhance the interoperability require enhancements to the Open Document file format we will propose the necessary changes to the OASIS Open Document TC. This way not only OpenOffice.org but also Open Document benefits from our efforts. Florian Reuter, who now works for Novell, lists some of the changes we have in mind in his blog . So there are a lot of common ideas how we can improve the interoperability between OpenOffice.org and Microsoft Word documents and I hope we can work together with Florian here.
ODF1.2 Interoperability Proposal
Tags: california, compatibility, davinci, interoperability, iso, massachusetts, oasis, odf, officeopenxml, ooxml, opendocument, openxml, plugin, xml on 2007-06-09 -All Annotations (0) -About
more fromwww.oasis-open.org
- Part of the sad but enduring "History of Failed ODF Interoperability Attempts". This particular message is dated November 20th, 2006.post by garyedwards on 2007-06-04
The OpenDocument Foundation was notified a week earlier that the "benefactor" ODF Community group Louis Gutierrez had asked IBM and Oracle to put together in Massachusetts had failed. This was the group Louis formed around the da Vinci plugin and our InfoSet APi.
Florian has been hired by Novell, and his first day on the job he finds out about the IBM - Novell deal with Microsoft. Now he has write the MOOXML plugin for OpenOffice using the MS-CleverAge Translator Project work. So he writes this message to the ODF TC [office] list.
The interoperability enhancements Florian suggests are based on the <interoperability eXtensions> submitted in August to the ODF Metadata SC for consideration.
The first element in this list tha tFlorian chose to tackle related to "Lists". He called it the "LIst Override Proposal". This became the now infamous "List Enhancement Proposal War" that resulted in Sun having OASIS boot out the Foundation.
Such is life in big vendor ODF'dom
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Subject: Suggested ODF1.2 items
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State's move to open document formats still not a mass migration
Tags: california, iso, lai, massachusetts, oasis, odf, officeopenxml, ooxml, opendocument, openxml, xml on 2007-06-09 -All Annotations (0) -About
more fromwww.computerworld.com
- Eric Lai keesp pokign at that Massachusetts hornets nest. One of these days he's going to crack it open, and it will be back to square one for the ODF Community. Still missing from his research is the infoamous 300 page pilot study and accompanying web site where comments and professional observations document a year long study concernign the difficulties of implementing ODF solutions and making the migration. <br><br>post by garyedwards on 2007-06-09
The study was focused on OpenOffice, StarOffice, Novell Office, and a IBM WorkPlace prototype.<br><br>
The results of the year long pilot have never seen the public light of day. But ComputerWorld is one of the media orgs that successfully filed a court action to invoke the freedom of information act in Massachusetts. How come they can't find the Pilot Study?<br><br>
At the end of the pilot study period, Massachusetts issued their infamous RFi; the request for information regarding the possiblity of a ODF plugin for MSOffice! Meaning, the Pilot Study did not go well for the heroes of ODF - OpenOffice, StarOffice, Novell Office and WorkPlace. Instead, Massachusetts sought an ODF plugin that would no doubt extend the life of MSOffice for years to come. No rip out and replace here folks!<br><br>
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Only a tiny fraction of the PCs at Massachusetts government agencies are able to use the Open Document Format (ODF) for Office Applications, despite an initial deadline of this month for making sure that all state agencies could handle the file format.Add Sticky Note
- Hey, nice comments!posted by garyedwards on 2007-06-09
Evermore Integrated Office
Tags: california, davinci, interop, iso, massachusetts, oasis, odef, odf, ooxml, opendocument, politics, xml on 2007-06-09 and saved by4 people -All Annotations (0) -About
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- Homepage for EIOffice, a complete JAVA clone of MSOffice. This stuff is excellent! Easily surpasses OpenOffice in terms of file format conversion and compatibilitiy. EIOffice is fully capable of "round tripping" documents with MSOffice users without compromising fideltiy. Supports UOF but not ODF or MOOXMLpost by garyedwards on 2007-04-27
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EIOffice includes the features found in Microsoft Office, plus a number of productivity features found nowhere else.
Slashdot | Pro-ODF Legislation Loses In Six States
Tags: california, davinci, interop, iso, massachusetts, oasis, odef, odf, ooxml, opendocument, politics, xml on 2007-06-09 -All Annotations (0) -About
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- Incredible. The tile alone says it all. And the poster commenting on IBM and secret disaster that happened in Massachusetts has it right. I wonder who that commenter is anyway?post by garyedwards on 2007-06-04
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If this is the case then it greatly increases the scope of the bill from being a simple switch from MS Office to OpenOffice to a massive effort involving the definition of many new XML schemata, developing, testing and debugging software to handle the new schemata, creation of documentation, deployment of and training for the new software, etc., etc.
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Another document format is not needed. This was already obvious before blogs took off, but to be promoting now is unforgivably stupid and irresponsible. Try and explain to an average person why all the typing they just did cannot even be viewed in a Web browser, they will not get it. Saving the user's typing as DOC or ODF is a con. The storage of text, styled text, graphics, photos, even movies (MPEG-4 H.264-AAC) has been solved. Your document format is ready it is HTML 4.01 Strict, CSS 2.1, and JS 1.5, there is nothing in the 1980's technology of MS Word that cannot be stored this way.
Microsoft trounces pro-ODF forces in state battles over open document formats
Tags: california, davinci, interop, iso, massachusetts, oasis, odef, odf, ooxml, opendocument, politics, xml on 2007-06-09 and saved by2 people -All Annotations (0) -About
more fromwww.computerworld.com
- Uh Oh. They got IBM dead to rights in Massachusetts. I guess the truth about Massachusetts will be told! Finally. ODF failed in Massachusetts because there isn't a reasonable means of implementing ODF. Same in California.post by garyedwards on 2007-06-04
- A must read. And yes, the ODF Vendors are the reason ODF lost. They didn't provide useful solutions. In fact, the applicaitons they proposed were seen by government CIO's as cstly and disruptive "rip out and replace" non starters. In California, CIO's asked if it was even possible to implement ODF!!!post by garyedwards on 2007-06-06
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Microsoft trounces pro-ODF forces in state battles over open document formats
Eric Lai and Gregg Keizer
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June 03, 2007
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Keeping it private
The other problem, Mathers said, was the jargon-laden disinformation that committee members felt they were being fed by lobbyists for both IBM and Microsoft. Although lobbyists would tell the committee one thing in private, they got cold feet when asked to verify the information publicly, under oath. "Suddenly, nobody wanted to sign witness affirmation forms and testify," he said.
That undermined the credibility of each side, but it particularly damaged the position of ODF proponents. After Wyne testified publicly that in Massachusetts, only a handful of computers had thus far been converted over to using ODF, IBM declined to dispute her claims, Mathers said -- despite having earlier given "gleaming" reports on the progress of ODF in Massachusetts. "That's when I really started to question the whole bill," he said.
Mass. Set to Mix Office With ODF
Tags: california, davinci, interop, iso, massachusetts, oasis, odef, odf, ooxml, opendocument, politics, xml on 2007-06-09 -All Annotations (0) -About
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- The August 28th, 2006 article about Massachusetts decision to use addon plugins. ComputerWorld - Caarol Sliwapost by garyedwards on 2007-06-05
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Massachusetts last week officially confirmed that its executive agencies for now will continue using Microsoft Office instead of switching to alternative desktop applications. But by Jan. 1, in keeping with a controversial policy announced last year, the state plans to start adding plug-in software that will let its Office users create and save files in the industry-standard OpenDocument format.
» OpenDocument or OpenXML: Do you care? | Between the Lines | ZDNet.com
Tags: california, davinci, interop, iso, massachusetts, oasis, odef, odf, ooxml, opendocument, politics, xml on 2007-06-09 -All Annotations (0) -About
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- Excellent coverage of a very important interview!post by garyedwards on 2007-06-07
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A week or so ago, I published a podcast at IT Conversation with Scott Mace interviewing Gary Edwards about OpenDocument. Edwards is the president of the OpenDocument Foundation. OpenDocument Foundation is a non-profit that works to promote the OpenDocument file format–an XML file format for office documents.
There’s no question that businesses want an XML-based file format for office data. The question, naturally, is which XML-based file format. Microsoft has it’s own XML-based file format called OpenXML.
State's move to open document formats still not a mass migration
Tags: california, davinci, interop, iso, massachusetts, oasis, odef, odf, ooxml, opendocument, politics, xml on 2007-06-09 -All Annotations (0) -About
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- Use of ODF remains minimal on government PCs in Massachusettspost by garyedwards on 2007-06-08
Eric Lai ....... June 8, 2007
Bummer! Do you think IBM is silent on this because they are busy cutting sweetheart deals with MS? Are they going to hang Sun on this? I'm sure that by next week IBM will have to respond to ODEF. This just keeps getting better. So in both Texas and California they wonder if it's even possible to implement ODF solutions. No one wants to get into that hole with Massachusetts.
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June 08, 2007 (Computerworld) -- Only a tiny fraction of the PCs at Massachusetts government agencies are able to use the Open Document Format (ODF) for Office Applications, despite an initial deadline of this month for making sure that all state agencies could handle the file format.
IBM undeterred by setbacks to ODF adoption | InfoWorld | News | 2007-06-08 | By China Martens, IDG News Service
Tags: california, davinci, interop, iso, massachusetts, oasis, odef, odf, ooxml, opendocument, politics, xml on 2007-06-09 -All Annotations (0) -About
more fromwww.infoworld.com
- Thus spoke the little Dutch Boy, his finger in the dike, his confidence large. Meanwhile, people with half a brain were heading for the high ground. California, Texas, Massachusetts and the EU IDABC come to mind. Hello bob! Can you say ODEF?post by garyedwards on 2007-06-08
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You might think the steady defeat of bills in several U.S. states to mandate the use of free interoperable file formats might
dampen the spirits of IBM, one of the prime supporters of ODF (OpenDocument Format). Far from it, said IBM's Bob Sutor, who
sees the recent news as par for the course in the evolution of any open standard.
Q&A: Calif. CIO Steers Clear of Ideology on File Formats
Tags: california, iso, microsoft, mooxml, msoffice, odf, ooxml, opendocument, openxml, xml on 2007-03-20 -All Annotations (0) -About
more fromwww.computerworld.com
- A mus tread. Carol Sliwa of ComputerWorld intervies Clark Kelso, California CIO. ODF is the main issue, with clark casting all his answers in the context of business decisions. Carol o fcourse is asking the best questions of any journalist alive.post by garyedwards on 2007-03-20
Keep in mind that ComputerWorld and the Boston globe filed for the Freedom of Information Act to be invoked in Massachusetts. They got access to all the eMail, documnetation, and conferencing notes concerning ODF and Microsoft. Carol's interview with Louis Gutierrez last week was filled with the same hard questions Clark Kelso fielded so deftly.
The "committee" Clark Kelso has set up to look at these issues is headed by Bill Welty, the CIO of the California Air Resources Board. Bill is a long time opensource - Linux guy, but will be the firs tto admit that Microsoft is the only vendor providing a means of getting everything inot XML. And that's the heart of any SOA strategy, "First, get everything into XML".
With a 500 million MSOffice desktop bound business process headstart, Microsoft has the extreme advantage in this much needed migration to XML.
They now have their own proprietary application and platform bound version of XML; MOOXML (Microsoft OfficeOpenXML) heading for international standardization at ISO.
They now have their XML Hub in place; the Exchange4/SharePoint Hub. This is also an essential part of any SOA strategy. You've got to have an XML Hub where the XML information streams and service connection to legacy black box systems can be piped into, managed and resolved. The XML must also provide an end user interface to these information flows. One that converges and integrates information, documents, data, and workflows into an easy to manage and participate in interface. The E/S Hub excells at this because it covers the fundamentals of eMail, messaging, portal, calendar, scheduling, contact and project management, document resources, CMS, workgroup and workflow management, XML forms, data schemas, data binding and extraction. The "portal" element provides vertical market developers with an easy means for provisioning highly productive business processes designed to replace those bound to MSOffice desktops.
Micrsoft is ready to play XML and SOA. And do so without giving up their control of the documents or API. The cornerstone of the MS XML STack is that every applicaiton on the desktop, server, device or Web shares three common factors:- MOOXML (Microsoft OfficeOpenXML)
- .NET 3.0 Components, Libraries and Data Schemas
- XAML - the XML presentation layer (GUI)
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We’re trying to view it as a straight business decision. What are the costs associated with one approach over another? Does it serve all of our business needs? If it doesn’t serve a business need, how do we satisfy that business need? We’re trying to view this just as a plain-vanilla, nonpartisan, nonideological issue.
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