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SXSW: Big Browsers Butt Heads - AppScout
From AppScout: ... "For the third year in a row, leading minds from the major browsers got together at SXSW Interactive to spar with one another over issues like Web standards and openness. As in years past, Mozilla's Brendan Eich, Microsoft's Chris Wilson, Opera's Charles McCathieNevile, and moderator Arun Ranganathan (also from Mozilla) were present, and this year they were joined by Google's Darin Fisher.<br><br>
As always, Apple was absent from the panel. Wilson told me that Apple is active in the standards discussion, but the company's famously closed corporate policy prevents Apple reps from participating in panels like this (almost every laptop I saw in the room was a Mac, so apparently the policy hasn't hurt them much). In any case, Safari's WebKit was represented by Chrome (Fisher), which is also built on WebKit....."<br><br>
AppScout does a great job of collecting some of the best snippets to come out of this panel discussion. Really though, how can anyone have a browser discussion without edge of the Web <i>WebKit</i> device browsers? And then there's this: the discussions today isn't about "browsers". It's about RiA platforms and how browsers are used to launch rich internet applications. Microsoft has XAML-Silverlight. Adobe has AiR-WebKit-SWF. And the Open Web has WebKit-HTML+. That's the battle!
SitePen Blog » Inside the Dojo Toolbox
Building the Dojo Toolbox allowed us to dive into Adobe® AIR™, and to create a blended toolchain of JavaScript, PHP, Python and Rhino (JavaScript on the Java Virtual Machine) for developing an amazing desktop application using open web technologies.
One of the most noticeable things you’ll see when moving from typical browser-based development to AIR is that you only have one browser to worry about. Dojo does a great job of masking browser JavaScript API differences, but there are still enough differences in CSS and other aspects of application development that it is somewhat refreshing to only have one platform to develop again. Also, since AIR includes WebKit, it has one of the fastest JavaScript implementations around and offers numerous useful experimental CSS properties that you can use in the AIR context. Apple has invested a lot in WebKit development, and AIR will naturally inherit those benefits when they next upgrade the included WebKit.
Microsoft vs. Adobe: The Rivalry Heats Up - GigaOM
At face value, the fight is about Flash vs. Silverlight. Look deeper and the tussle is over not just online video but about cloud computing, rich Internet applications and mobile phones.
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At face value, the fight is about Flash vs. Silverlight. Look deeper and the tussle is over not just online video but about cloud computing, rich Internet applications and mobile phones.
I’m johnny » Adobe technology platform ActionScript reference for RIA development (download)
This guide provides a reference for all native ActionScript APIs for the Adobe technology platform runtimes, Adobe
Flash Player and Adobe AIR, as well as the Flex framework APIs.
How Adobe can stop Microsoft - MarketWatch
Now we have this Silverlight situation, and Adobe has to do something other than run away from Microsoft. It should attack Microsoft with a Linux initiative.
A Proprietary Web? Blame the W3C | TechConsumer Paul Ellis
A must read. This article was slashdotted.
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Cross post: http://pseudosavant.com/blog/2008/07/08/a-proprietary-web-blame-the-w3c/
PsuedoSavant - garyedwards on 2008-07-10
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The real culprit
This may seem like a forgone conclusion to many of you after seeing the W3C’s development timetables, but the real reason Flash and Silverlight exist is because the “open-web” people dropped the ball. HTML simply can handle what Flash and Silverlight can do. It has become increasingly stale for modern web development needs.
Here is some perspective, HTML5 has finally added a tag for handling video. Flash 6 came out in 2002 with video support! Where is the HTML version of Line Rider? It is in Flash and Silverlight now. If you want to see something really interesting check out Hard Rock Cafe’s memorabilia page (Silverlight 2 required) and tell me if you’ve ever seen something like that with HTML
The new UI wars: Why there’s no Flash on iPhone 2.0 « counternotions
this article takes the RiA discussion to an entirely new level - the battle between Apple, Adobe and Microsoft to control the future user interface (UI). Adobe Flash extends the aging WiMP model, trying to create a "UI Convergence" across many platforms through the Flash RiA. With iPhone, Apple introduces the patented "gestures UI", running off the WebKit RiA. Microsoft presumably is copying the Flash RiA with the XAML rich WPF Silverlight RiA. Unfortunately, counternotions doe snot cover Silverlight. This incredible discussion is limited to Adobe and Apple.
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- publishers of Flash apps have to port their apps to native Web apps if they want to run inside a Web browser going forward because the Web has moved off the PC, you can’t accessorize it with PC software anymore, WebKit is so small and light and cross-platform that it is the plug-in now, inside iPhone, iPod, Nokia, Android, iTunes and other Mac and Windows apps
- publishers of Flash video have to deploy MPEG-4 H.264/AAC if they want to run inside an audio-video player (on any device) going forward, the decoder chips for this are already in EVERYTHING, from iPod to Blu-Ray to NVIDIA GPU’s
Most of the world has already done both of the above, including Google and Apple. This is not the beginning of the end for Flash, it is the end of the end.
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Add Sticky NoteNotice he doesn’t say at all that Flash is running natively on the ARM CPU inside the iPhone. And once again, as I point out in the article above, technical problems may be solved by Adobe, but cross-platform runtime compatibility and multi-touch UI frameworks remain as serious impediments.
- two key points: cross platform compatibility and multi-touch UI frameworks. Is WebKit a universal runtime? Just how portable is the multi-touch UI? - on 2008-06-20
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Runtime wars (2): Apple’s answer to Flash, Silverlight and JavaFX « counternotions
WebKit is Apple's Trojan Horse! Excellent introduction to WebKit presented in the context of Adobe and Microsoft RiA's.
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Apple’s Trojan horse in multi-platform, multimedia runtime is a piece of open source technology that’s already on Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, Adobe Flex/AIR, iPhone, iPod touch, Nokia S60 smartphones and Google’s new Android/Open Handset Alliance, with 30+ partners around the globe: WebKit 3.0.
Flash Wars: Adobe Fights for AIR with the Open Screen Project [Part 3 of 3] | AppleInsider
Part two of the Prince McClean Adobe-Flash history. Excellent history involves Adobe SVG, Microsoft VmL-XAML-Silverlight, Apple WebKit, Sun (Java) as they battle for dominance over web applications and the future of the Web itself.
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Two areas where Flash can offer real value is in displaying and packaging video on the web, and in serving as a Java replacement for developing applets. Here's a look at how Adobe is working to defend its strengths in the face of competition, and how its efforts to open the Flash specification in the Open Screen Project play into these efforts.
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proprietary FLV video container format
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WebKit Meta: A new standard for in-game web content | Alp Toker
As many know, i've moved all my attention to WebKit and thw webkit "fixed/flow" document model as an alternative to Microsoft's proprietary XAML "fixed/flow". Webkit is the default layout for iPhone, Safari and the Adobe RIA runtime (Flex/Flash/AiR/Acrobat). It's just a short hop from WebKit to VisualForce Pages, the default document model for SalesForce.com developers. The Meta announcement further demonstrates how powerful the WebKit design is. It's will be worthwhile keepign an eye on the Meta JavaScript SDK-Runtime as a nice addition to WebKit. Good stuff!
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Meta, a brand new WebKit port suited to embedding in OpenGL and 3D applications. The work is being driven by Linden Lab, who are eagerly investigating WebKit for use in Second Life.
While producing Meta we’ve paid great attention to resolving the technical and practical limitations encountered with other web content engines.
WebKit, AJAX and ARAX | Readers Welcome ARAX and More: Darryl Taft follow-up zdnet
Darryl Taft writes a follow up article covering the comments to his original AJAX-ARAX ruby on rails MS-iron python story
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A commenter on the ARAX article on eWEEK's site named Gary Edwards said,
"It seems to me that Adobe and Microsoft are using the browser plug-in
model as a distribution channel for their proprietary run-time engines. Or should
we call them VMs [virtual machines]?"The easiest way for Web developers to sidestep problematic browser
wars, and still be able to push the envelope of the interactive Web, may well
be to write to a universal run-time plug-in like Adobe AIR
or Microsoft Silverlight. IMHO, the 'browser' quickly fades away once this
direct development sets in."Moreover, Edwards said, "Although there are many ways to slice this
discussion, it might be useful to compare Adobe RIA [Rich Internet
Applications] and Microsoft Silverlight RIA in terms of Web-ready, highly
interactive documents. The Adobe RIA story is quite different from that of
Silverlight. Both however exploit the shortcomings of browsers; shortcomings
that are in large part, I think, due to the disconnect the browser community
has had with the W3C [World Wide Web Consortium]. The W3C forked off the HTML-CSS
[Cascading Style Sheets] path, putting the bulk of their attention into XML,
RDF and the Semantic Web. The Web developer community stayed the course, pushing
the HTML-CSS envelope with JavaScript and
some rather stunning CSS magic."Adobe seems to have picked up the HTML-CSS-JavaScript
trail with a Microsoft innovation to take advantage of browser cache, DHTML
(Dynamic HTML). DHTML morphs into AJAX,
(which [is] so wild as to have difficulty scaling). And AJAX
gets tamed by an Adobe-Apple sponsored WebKit."
Running beyond the browser
Although there are many ways to slice this discussion, it might be useful to compare Adobe RIA and Microsoft Silverlight RIA in terms of web ready, highly interactive documents.
The Adobe RIA story is quite different from that of Silverlight. Both however exploit the shortcomings of browsers; shortcomings that are in large part, i think, due to the disconnect the browser community has had with the W3C. The W3C forked off the HTML-CSS path, putting the bulk of their attention into XML, RDF and the Semantic Web. The web developer community stayed the course, pushing the HTML-CSS envelope with JavaScript and some rather stunning CSS magic.
Adobe seems to have picked up the HTML-CSS-Javascript trail with a Microsoft innovation to take advantage of browser cache, DHTML (Dynamic HTML). DHTML morphs into AJAX, (which so wild as to have difficulty scaling). And AJAX gets tamed by an Adobe-Apple sponsored WebKit.
Most people see WebKit as a browser specific layout engine, and compare it to the IE and Gecko on those terms. I would argue however that WebKit is both a document model and, a document format. For sure it's a framework for very advanced HTML-CSS-DOM-Javascript work.
Because the Adobe AIR run-time is based on WebKit layout, WebKit documents can hit on all cylinders across any browser able to implement the AIR plug-in. Meaning, web developers and web content providers need only target the WebKit document model to attain the interactive access ubiquity all seek. Very cool. Let me also add that the WebKit HTML-CSS-DOM-Javascript model is capable of "fixed/flow" representation. I'll explain the importance of "fixed/flow" un momento, but think about how iPhone renders a web page and you'll understand the "flow" side of this equation.
Running Beyond the Browser | Move Over AJAX, ARAX is Here - Darryl Taft of eWeek
Darryl Taft posts an interesting question concerning running Ruby in a browser, and Microsoft's Silverlight proposal to do that with ARAX. I think he misses the larger context of the rise of RIA, and the wane of AJAX.
In particular, he misses the significance of two important RIA aspects: The Adobe RIA runs on the WebKit layout engine and document model. Microsoft RIA (Silverlight) runs on XAML "fixed/flow".
XAML "fixed/flow" is in effect, the web ready representation of MSOffice-OOXML. And Silverlight the Windows Presentation Foundation layer gone portable.
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Because the Adobe AIR run-time is based on WebKit layout, WebKit documents can hit on all cylinders across any browser able to implement the AIR plug-in. Meaning, web developers and web content providers need only target the WebKit document model to attain the interactive access ubiquity all seek. Very cool. Let me also add that the WebKit HTML-CSS-DOM-Javascript model is capable of "fixed/flow" representation. I'll explain the importance of "fixed/flow" un momento, but think about how iPhone renders a web page and you'll understand the "flow" side of this equation.
AJAX, AIR, RIA, Adobe Getting It, David Mendels and “Rich Internet Apps: How We Live Now” | James Governor’s Monkchips »
Blog from James Governor covers an exchange with Adobe's David Mendels concerning the transition from the static document centric Web 1.0, to the dynamic application platform we know today as the Web 2.0. David discusses the transition from DHTML to AJAX to RIA. David and his group at Adobe witnessed the transition and coined the phrase RIA - Rich Internet Application, to describe this incredible transition. No mention of WebKit as an important aspect enabling the interactive - dynamic document model behind Adobe RIA.
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What we saw them do was create a single screen application with rich interactivity on the client, but still all of the benefits of being a web based application (nothing to install, back end connectivity for inventory and other data using XML, use of client side media/animation to guide the user, reachable through any browser, etc.) We really looked at this as the best of web applications and the best of desktop applications: rich connectivity, platform independence, no install, lightweight as well as rich client side logic and interactivity, ability to integrate rich media and communications. But we dropped the baggage of the page based metaphor that basically required a page refresh for everything and got beyond the layout/graphics/media constraints of HTML.
Adobe AIR Language Reference for HTML Developers
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Adobe® AIR™ Language Reference for HTML Developers
The Adobe AIR Language Reference for HTML Developers includes details on Adobe AIR APIs.
Adobe AIR APIs are available to JavaScript code in HTML-based AIR applications
via thewindow.runtimeobject.
The Acrobat.com Blog: Welcome to Acrobat.com - Work. Together. Anywhere.
Adobe's Erik Larson introduces Acrobat.com. His blog comments echo his post in response to an article at ComputerWorld: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9091678
In the CW article, Guy Creese of the Burton Group holds the line, defending, as expected, the Microsoft alighnment of MSOffice, Exchange and SharePoint.
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With Acrobat.com people will not have to sacrifice the quality of their documents or the quality of the user experience in order to work together more efficiently online. The documents look great. They are truly ‘what you see is what you get’ no matter who you are or what computer you are using, including the text, the graphics, and the pages. Finally, the user experience or design of the applications is beautiful, easy to use and getting better all the time.
Acrobat.com takes the meaning of rich internet application to the next level by using the Adobe technology platform of Flash, PDF and AIR to create distinctive and compelling software. You can access Acrobat.com while online from almost any browser thanks to the Flash Player or from your desktop via Acrobat.com on AIR. And soon you will be able to access your work via the AIR version of Acrobat.com even while off-line.
Kevin Lynch on Adobe's AIR: Extending the Web beyond the Browser - Knowledge@Wharton
good interview with Kevin Lynch about the future of the Web. Covers AIR, Flex, Flash, Silverlight and how the Web is moving from universal access and exchange of documents to that of applications. Lynch places Adboe products into a larger context of which problems these inventions solved. The new problem is that of expanding the Web to the desktop through these emerging universal applications.
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CEO Shantanu Narayan described AIR as Adobe's "fourth platform," positioning it as the next link in the chain that includes PostScript, Acrobat's PDF (Portable Document Format) and Flash. The first three created disruptive paradigm shifts in their respective fields -- typesetting and document printing, electronic document interchange and web interactivity -- and all have generated significant revenue for Adobe. Adobe hopes AIR will follow suit
AppleInsider | Flash Wars: The Many Enemies and Obstacles of Flash [Part 2 of 3]
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While widely deployed as a web plugin and among the few web technologies that have become a household word, Adobe's Flash has more than a few substantial enemies that would like to see it replaced, cloned, or erased.
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