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08 Mar 09

Meatball Wiki: SandBox

  • Dear Diigos,  if you are not yet a wikizen, here you are invited to make your first experiences with a wiki.
     - fridemar on 2006-12-06

  • Diigo:wiki annotation
    • Clicking on the following link, a footnote, numbered  [2],  you get all
      wiki annotations in the world of Diigo, that are tagged with wiki annotation.       - on 2006-12-06
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  • Diigo:wiki
    • Clicking
      on the following link, a footnote, numbered  [x] (Attention: the number can change),  you get all wiki
      annotations in the world of Diigo, that are tagged with wiki.

      by fridemar on 2006-12-06 06:21:44 [Delete][Edit]

       - on 2007-05-04
    • Clicking on the following link, a footnote, numbered  [1],  you get all wiki annotations in the world of Diigo, that are tagged with wiki.
       - on 2006-12-06
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16 Jun 08

Meatball Wiki: WikiAnnotation

  • WikiAnnotation means annotation of
    >
    WikiPages
    >
    .
    >


    Why is WikiAnnotation important for Online Communities?
    Isn't Wiki enough? Wikis allow inline annotations with normal wiki page editing? -- FridemarPache


    Note:
    Don't confuse an AnnotationWiki with WikiAnnotation. An AnnotationWiki is a repository for annotations material, to be pasted into rich text/link annotation dialogues, whereas WikiAnnotation makes only wiki pages the targets of annotations. Of course an AnnotationWiki can be itself the target of some WikiAnnotation.


    Discussion:

  • WikiAnnotation means annotation of WikiPages.
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10 Jun 08

Meatball Wiki: WikiPrefix

annotation diigo fridemar wiki wikiprefix
Again my last annotation dissolved into thin air.
Suggestion: What about using DiiGo and TrailTrail for mutual backup.

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annotation diigo fridemar wiki wikiprefix

  • Thank you to the unnamed author, who motivated me, to give WikiPrefix ing a broader focus. - fridemar on 2006-11-09
  • I can see your welcome, Hans. This is a comment. Did you install the Diigo Toolbar, in Firefox?
    Indeed I can't see a sticky note either. Now I make one on MeatballWiki:WikiPrefix. Can you see it now? -- Fridemar


     - fridemar on 2006-11-18

    • [Home]WikiPrefix

      MeatballWiki | RecentChanges | Random Page | Indices | Categories

      A WikiPrefix is a memorable shortcut to a wiki domain to make it easier to WikiWalk? or annotate Webpages via Wikipages in different Wikis.


      E.g. With


      Meatball=http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?


      we could refer to this page as Meatball:WikiPrefix from an external server that supports it.
      This would be very useful for an AnnotationWiki or at least for a WikiAnnotationMediator.


      How does this idea differ from the existing InterMap facility?


      Thank you for this question. Namely in this way we can bring it to a broader focus via the DiigoService.
      The author uses WikiPrefix as:


      • a handy abbreviation for the syntax of global wiki URL page naming like this: Wikiprefix:pagename. Compare this to: Intermap:pagename. (Intermap points to a concept, wheras WikiPrefix is a dummy for the prefixed URL string to concatenate with pagename. Forgive the author for not using here a more formal definition in BNF. )
      • a term that flows better with text: "What is the prefix of your favorite wiki?" Can you give me some WikiPrefix 'es, where the wiki term xyz or [xyz] is discussed?"
      • an easier to remember shortcut for Wiki Identification. (Once the author proposed, that each Wiki should have its WikiPrefix on each of its pages. What a shame, that the first and original Wiki had/has(?) different WikiPrefix es in different communities: wiki, wikiwiki, c2, WardsWiki, TheOriginalWiki? ;-) On the other hand look at the right upper position of each page of this Wiki and you can see the WikiPrefix meatball.
      • a tool for WikiBranding?
      • a profiling tool for helping the social annotating communities to easily associate Wikis with their special topics of interest (this helps to profile wikis and attract just those people who are in best resonance). -- FridemarPache


      'Note:'
      This page is DiigoService ''d. (socially bookmarked, blogged, annotated, archived )
      The author recommends to annotate it for faster input.





      <form enctype="application/x-www-form-urlencoded" method="get" action="mb.pl">
      MeatballWiki | RecentChanges | Random Page | Indices | Categories

      Edit text of this page | View other revisions | Search MetaWiki
      Search:
      </form>
      <script language="JavaScript">
      <!--
      var SymRealOnLoad;
      var SymRealOnUnload;

      function SymOnUnload()
      {
      window.open = SymWinOpen;
      if(SymRealOnUnload != null)
      SymRealOnUnload();
      }

      function SymOnLoad()
      {
      if(SymRealOnLoad != null)
      SymRealOnLoad();
      window.open = SymRealWinOpen;
      SymRealOnUnload = window.onunload;
      window.onunload = SymOnUnload;
      }

      SymRealOnLoad = window.onload;
      window.onload = SymOnLoad;

      //-->
      </script>

  • Strange, but I don't notice any hiLites when viewing this page. -- HansWobbe
    • I make the sticky note on your last comment: "Strange, but I don't notice any hiLites. ...  I wonder, what happens, if you modify or delete your last entry. I suppose, that the hiLite becomes an ordinary comment. I also clip the whole space, i.e. archive it and you should be able to see it. If not, try yourself to clip it and let's see, what comes out.. .--Fridemar
       - on 2006-11-18
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08 Apr 08

Annotation Wiki

Annotation Wiki WikiPedia ExampleWikiPedia

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Annotation Wiki WikiPedia ExampleWikiPedia

    • Example: natural extension of the WikiPedia: What about an annotating Wiki, without the strict rules of the underlying WikiPedia Wiki. This Wiki could take over the role of the adjunct talk pages, but with much more flexibility, for several reasons:
      • fine-grained markers on the annotated page allow faster read/write access
      • annotating pages on the annotated pages (and so on recursively) create more space for different views
      • writing comments in an overlaying wiki, allows more efficient statements due to its additional LinkLanguage? formed in its annotation space
      • a link on the base page to the annoting wiki(s) reduces the workload for the admins and opens new horizons for the readers/writers.



      -- FridemarPache
08 Feb 08

http://www.diigo.com/help/stickynote/1


  • User can delete (but not edit) his own sticky notes.
    • A work around is, copy the old edit, delete it, and make a new annotation, based on the old one, pasting and editing it.
       - on 2006-11-29
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30 Jul 07

fridemar's blog

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08 Jun 07

case-sensitive tags - any chance of it happening? - discussion,tag - Diigo Community | Diigo Group Forum

  • Thank you Jeffry for supporting this powerful idea of CaseSensitiveTags in AnnotationEngines:





    Advantages





    • BetterOrganizing (as you state, letting me suppose, you are a
      programmer too, knowing how powerful this option for "identifiers" is)
    • WikiFyingAnnotions: each MixedCaseTag could be a WikiWord reference, integrated in all
      DiiGoForums and annotations (in which case as an example our
      contribution would be much more valuable for the social annotation
      community)
    • AutoTagging: each MixedCase word in any posting or annotation
      could be auto-tagged, i.e. the DiiGoEngine could automatically make a
      tag out of it, what would save millions of hours for our community
      peers.
    • FineTargetedSearch (This would make any AnnotationEngine even
      superior to Google, because the Google SearchEngine doesn't support
      mixed case)



    What a pity that the current annotation system hasn't yet realized the blessings of  the WikiPrinciples,
    although I preach this in public since years. In this case all the
    MixedCase words in this contribution would be automatic links.





    MayBeAllHappy


    Fridemar





    PS.: I make this
    excellent idea (as always a public annotation and a blog), to support it within
    the wider community. DiiGo has the chance to realize it . At least It would make no great effort to transfer the raw
    MixedCase to the associated social bookmarking communities by
    SimultaneousBookmarking, so that they can support it. I bookmark this highly community-relevant contribution with public bookmarks CaseSensitiveTags and AnnotationsAsWikiPages, AnnotationTitlesAsWikiPages , AutoTagging,  so that you can find it by searching it via DiiGo.








    jeffreyjflim wrote:


    >
    as per subject. I was wondering whether this would be implemented... It
    may not sound like much, but hey, mixed-case and selective-case tags
    can be good for organizing, and for the visual effect...     - fridemar on 2007-05-28
  • Note: Although I tagged in MixedCase, the current DiiGoEngine, made them all lowercase. What a gain, if case would be preserved. Thank you for changing this.


     - fridemar on 2007-05-28
  • Now that all tags are lowercase, they should show up, when searching them via DiiGo.
     - fridemar on 2007-05-28
  • I added the following public tags:
    annotation wiki SupportingTheCase MixedCase SocialBookmarking SocialCooperation WikiCommunities AutoTagging
    Hopefully the system doesn't "swallow" them. -- fridemar

     - fridemar on 2007-06-01
  • Posted by 
    fridemar
      on 6/7/2007

    SupportingTheCase

    Hello Wade,
    thank you for taking the "case" seriously. The decision for supporting case is a strategic one.

    Ad 1) Not case-sensitive: Even if all other DiigoAffiliatedBookmarkingServices would restrict their engines on not-case-sensitive, this would be not a serious problem to stick to StrongCaseSensitivity You could transfer to them the MixedCase
    and leave them the decision, wether they apply a
    "converttolowercasefunction", hampering the reading quality and
    depriving them from a lot of fast analytical operations on tags.

    Ad 2) Case-sensitive for both display and search: If the underlying database respects case, then
    "IBM" (TM), the trademark of this computer-company and "iBM", a possible rival product of IBM to the iPod
    of the Apple (TM) company, are indeed different and need to be
    respected as valuable tags. It is no problem to delete the
    "converttolowercasefunction" somewhere in the DiigoEngine.
    You see not only communities of programmers will have an enormous gain, when using CaseSensitiveTags, correctly handled by the DiigoEngine.

    Ad 3) Case-sensitive for display but not for search: Please don't put this unnecessary burdon (of editing tag appearances) on millions of Diigo users.

    MayAllBeHappy

    fridemar

    PS.:  A simple realization for Diigo-, Trailfire and other social annotation services for AutomaticTagging is given in the above text by manually making transforming all WikiWords into GoogleSearchLinks.
     - fridemar on 2007-06-07
  • SupportingTheCase
    • SupportingTheCase

      Thank you Davido,

      for supporting the "case" :-).

      But why restricting this time-proven concept of MixedCase only to personal tagging.
      Aren't we not an an initiative for SocialBookmarking and SocialCooperation?

      And why excluding it from searches?
      MixedCase better interfaces with the thousands of WikiCommunities.

      MixedCaseTags are a great filter for this purpose.

      MayAllBeHappy
      Fridemar       - on 2007-06-01
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    • SupportingTheCase

      Hello Wade,
      thank you for taking the "case" seriously. The decision for supporting case is a strategic one.

      Ad 1) Not case-sensitive: Even if all other DiigoAffiliatedBookmarkingServices would restrict their engines on not-case-sensitive, this would be not a serious problem to stick to StrongCaseSensitivity You could transfer to them the MixedCase
      and leave them the decision, wether they apply a
      "converttolowercasefunction", hampering the reading quality and
      depriving them from a lot of fast analytical operations on tags.

      Ad 2) Case-sensitive for both display and search: If the underlying database respects case, then
      "IBM" (TM), the trademark of this computer-company and "iBM", a possible rival product of IBM to the iPod
      of the Apple (TM) company, are indeed different and need to be
      respected as valuable tags. It is no problem to delete the
      "converttolowercasefunction" somewhere in the DiigoEngine.
      You see not only communities of programmers will have an enormous gain, when using CaseSensitiveTags, correctly handled by the DiigoEngine.

      Ad 3) Case-sensitive for display but not for search: Please don't put this unnecessary burdon (of editing tag appearances) on millions of Diigo users.

      MayAllBeHappy

      fridemar

      PS.:  A simple realization for Diigo-, Trailfire and other social annotation services for AutomaticTagging is given in the above text by manually making transforming all WikiWords into GoogleSearchLinks.SupportingTheCase

      Hello Wade,
      thank you for taking the "case" seriously. The decision for supporting case is a strategic one.

      Ad 1) Not case-sensitive: Even if all other DiigoAffiliatedBookmarkingServices would restrict their engines on not-case-sensitive, this would be not a serious problem to stick to StrongCaseSensitivity You could transfer to them the MixedCase and leave them the decision, wether they apply a "converttolowercasefunction", hampering the reading quality and depriving them from a lot of fast analytical operations on tags.

      Ad 2) Case-sensitive for both display and search: If the underlying database respects case, then
      "IBM" (TM), the trademark of this computer-company and "iBM", a possible rival product of IBM to the iPod of the Apple (TM) company, are indeed different and need to be respected as valuable tags. It is no problem to delete the "converttolowercasefunction" somewhere in the DiigoEngine.
      You see not only communities of programmers will have an enormous gain, when using CaseSensitiveTags, correctly handled by the DiigoEngine.

      Ad 3) Case-sensitive for display but not for search: Please don't put this unnecessary burdon (of editing tag appearances) on millions of Diigo users.

      MayAllBeHappy

      fridemar

      PS.: A simple realization for Diigo-, Trailfire and other social annotation services for AutomaticTagging is given in the above text by manually making transforming all WikiWords into GoogleSearchLinks.       - on 2007-06-07
    • SupportingTheCase

      Hello Wade,
      thank you for taking the "case" seriously. The decision for supporting case is a strategic one.

      Ad 1) Not case-sensitive: Even if all other DiigoAffiliatedBookmarkingServices would restrict their engines on not-case-sensitive, this would be not a serious problem to stick to StrongCaseSensitivity You could transfer to them the MixedCase and leave them the decision, wether they apply a "converttolowercasefunction", hampering the reading quality and depriving them from a lot of fast analytical operations on tags.

      Ad 2) Case-sensitive for both display and search: If the underlying database respects case, then
      "IBM" (TM), the trademark of this computer-company and "iBM", a possible rival product of IBM to the iPod of the Apple (TM) company, are indeed different and need to be respected as valuable tags. It is no problem to delete the "converttolowercasefunction" somewhere in the DiigoEngine.
      You see not only communities of programmers will have an enormous gain, when using CaseSensitiveTags, correctly handled by the DiigoEngine.

      Ad 3) Case-sensitive for display but not for search: Please don't put this unnecessary burdon (of editing tag appearances) on millions of Diigo users.

      MayAllBeHappy

      fridemar

      PS.:  A simple realization for Diigo-, Trailfire and other social annotation services for AutomaticTagging is given in the above text by manually making transforming all WikiWords into GoogleSearchLinks.       - on 2007-06-07
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26 May 07

Meatball Wiki: WikiCommonWealth

  • This is a subset of a SocialCommonWealth, where wealth is created and shared by the peers of online-communities, that tag  under WikiCommonWealth.

    WikiCommonWealth
    SocialCommonWealth

    MayAllBeHappy
    Fridemar

     - fridemar on 2007-05-26
19 May 07

Meatball Wiki: StayPoor

  • (1)
    • This page has the DiiGo tags: "StayPoor", "CreatingAndSharingWealth" and at the same time it is a TrailMark in the wiki-mode FireTrail, next to the right of this DiiGo annotation. It is intended to foster open SocialCollaboration communities, that include a revenue model for their members. -- fridemar
       - on 2007-05-19
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17 May 07

Allowing minimal html in the forum text - feature,forum - Diigo Community | Diigo Group Forum

  • Done. What means "Share my existing annotations on the page?"
     - fridemar on 2007-05-17
  • here

Trailfire - Trailfire

  • the trails you subscribed
    • By the way, I just made this a Diigo annotation within Trailfire annotation.
      Currently I don't see this feature at Diigo: making a TrailFire annotation within a DiiGo annotation.
       - on 2007-05-14
    • I just noticed, that Diigo comments within Diigo annotations cannot be edited. Right? Or did I miss something. So my corrected text follows:

      By the way, I just made this a Diigo annotation within a Trailfire annotation. Currently I don't see this feature at Diigo: making a TrailFire annotation within a DiiGo annotation.

      by fridemar less than a minute ago       - on 2007-05-11
    • By the way, I just made this a Diigo annotation within Trailfire annotation.
      Currently I don't see this feature a Diigo: making a TrailFire annotation within a DiiGo annotation.
       - on 2007-05-11
    • Trails can be subscribed. Could someone please leave a link here, where this can be done?
       - on 2007-05-11
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    Edit
    Delete
    posted by fridemar on 5/11/2007
    By the way, I just left a DiiGo annotation within a trailfire annotation. The other way round doesn't appear to be possible. The CritOrg annotation system allowed each webpage to be an annotation of each other webpage. Annotations were URL-based. So each annotation could be annotated within itself. Therefore the precursor of all web annotation  system  was  also  called  AnnotationMediator  or  WebMediator.
12 May 07

Meatball Wiki: AnnotationWiki

  • This is an experiment to detect synergies between social annotation and a wiki system.
    Note, how the formating is lost, when copying from wiki. Suggestion: we need at least WikiFormatting for diigo sticky notes:
    As currently there is no elegant way to edit and hyperlink annotations, we could use an arbitrary wiki as a mediator between Webpages to be annotated. Further comments can be inserted into:
    http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?action=edit&id=AnnotationWiki or alternatively as sticky notes in diigo.
     - fridemar on 2006-10-30
  • To see the difference between diigo sticky notes and the annotated page, compare the following copy with the original: http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?AnnotationWiki
    My first comment leads directly to the editable page form. You can switch from document viewer mode to edit mode in the annotated target page.


    Benefits for diigo users:

    * instead of unformatted, uneditable sticky notes diigo user get all the features of a full blown wiki
    * diigo users probably get as new companions "wikizens", i.e. friendly and constructive people with highly developed social intelligence (hopefully ;-)

    Benefits for wiki users:

    * they get a tempory manual annotation capability (since WikAlong? is currently no more active)
    * they get something to experiment with, how to combine a wiki with an annotation system
    * they get a feeling for the added value of combining a WikiEngine with a WebAnnotation system
    * they probably get as new users diigo users, i.e. friendly and constructive people with highly developed social intelligence (hopefully ;-)

    - fridemar on 2006-10-30
  • Wikalong
  • Let's test a direct annotation on this writable wiki form focussed on this phrase.
    • It's amazing. that now editing and deleting works nearly perfectly. What I miss are date/time stamps of the last edited paragraph. - on 2006-11-07
    • Question: Can't comments have (clickable) links like other Web annotation systems like CritOrg have. Workaround: In the annotated wikipage "CritOrg" is a link. What I am suggest is: Wikipages should be the outsourced forms of the (diigo) webannotation system. - on 2006-11-07
    • Surprise, surprise. Now links show up. Thank you programmers. You are very fast. - on 2006-11-05
    • Hey, they show up, but they are not clickable as is standard in forums and wikis. Is there some bracket notation to make links in sticky notes? - on 2006-11-05
    • Try partial links now: www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?AnnotationWiki
      usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?AnnotationWiki
      Let's see, if it works.       - on 2006-11-05
    • Result: This link was suppressed by the current diigo annotation server :-( - on 2006-11-05
    • But the link (I repaste it here again), didn't show as sticky note.This is a very bad shortcoming: http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?action=edit&id=AnnotationWiki
      Perhaps the link can't live as the last string, without a carriage return? I just test it.
       - on 2006-11-05
    • Here I leave a link to the wiki-edit form: http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?action=edit&id=AnnotationWiki - on 2006-11-05
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Contact List (News)

  • It is great to see the wiki philosophy in TrailFire (partially) applied. My suggestion is: what about WikiWords (like the last one),i.e. automatic links to a dedicated Wiki for each trail. In the same sense each mark should be individually addressable via an URL as a wiki-page. Another more powerful option would be a global TrailFire community wiki, which would be a common database for making rich link context supported marks. Thank you for making TrailFire available as very helpful community service that brings our planet on a new level of togetherness.




    Posted by
    fridemar |
    May 11, 2007 3:31 PM

  • Glad you like the wiki features. We have definitely thought about expanding the wiki-ness (or at least, the ability of the author to enable wiki-ness) in some of the ways you mention. We'll be continuing to add features that make it easy to collaborate on projects around a trail or set of trails, with a group of contacts or with the world at large.




    Posted by
    Mike Perkowitz |
    May 11, 2007 4:10 PM

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