Lee Dunn's List: UFO/ET

• Old Gods and New - Imminent Disclosure?
• by   Gary Stearman
• For  important reasons, we now need to be sensitive to this word. In the coming days,  it is likely to be resounding through the public media.
• Disclosure … the revealing of something long held secret.
• Of late, this term has been used of several governments  around the world … France and England, to name two … which have "disclosed" that  they have been concealing years of detailed records concerning their interaction  with unidentified flying objects … UFOs.
• After decades of fanatical secrecy,  they are beginning to reveal that both the phenomenon and the beings associated  with it are real. What’s more, they are now hinting that they have had various  relationships (including technology trades) with alien intelligences.
• In August of 2009, the U. K. government released thousands of  pages of historical UFO documents, kept during the years 1981-1996. They are now  online and have also been made available in the public domain.  
• They reportedly detail many close encounters, purported abductions and  especially, in-depth documentation about what has been called "Britain’s  Roswell," the Rendlesham Forest Air Base event that took place in Suffolk.
• Up to now, the major world media have been reluctant to touch  this subject. However, a number of news sources at the edge of society have  begun to document the back-channel chatter about our dealings with aliens,  reportedly taking place at high levels in our government.
• One such source  is datelined October 21, 2009, published by examiner.com and reporter  Michael Salia, PhD.

• He writes:

   

  "An official announcement by the Obama administration  disclosing the reality of extraterrestrial life is imminent. For several months,  senior administration officials have been quietly deliberating behind closed  doors about how much to disclose to the world about extraterrestrial life.
• Dissatisfaction among powerful institutions such as the U.S. Navy over the  decades-long secrecy policy has given a boost to efforts to disclose the reality  of extraterrestrial life and technology.

  • SEE: Bill Cooper's "Behold A Pale Horse"
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• "The impending disclosure announcement follows upon the  secret implementation of a year-long openness policy on UFOs and  extraterrestrial life?
• Over the period February 12-14, 2008, the United Nations  held closed doors discussions where approximately 30 nations secretly agree on a  new openness policy on UFOs and extraterrestrial life in 2009.
• The openness  policy was implemented but never publicly announced due to threats against UN  diplomats to not disclose details of the secret agreement.
• The secret UN  agreement was based on two conditions. First, UFOs would continue to appear  around the world; and second, the openness policy would not lead to social  unrest in liberal democracies. Both conditions have been satisfied making it  possible for the next stage to begin – official disclosure of extraterrestrial  life."
• Extraterrestrials? No.
• What is behind the current UFO phenomenon? Certainly, it  involves advanced super-vehicles and visiting aliens. But just as certainly, the  visitors are not sci-fi space travelers.
• Our guide to truth, the Bible, simply  does not speak of travelers from the stars, coming here in the latter days to  guide mankind into a new age of peace and enlightenment.
• But it speaks volumes about "sons of God" (Gen. 6:2),  who descended from heaven to take human wives, resulting in the corruption of  mankind.
• These were fallen angels who came to be worshiped by men. Later, idols  were erected in their names: Baal, Moloch, Dagon and others.
• The Egyptian solar  disc called Ra was surrounded by Isis, Osiris and a retinue of immortals.
• Fallen  angels were the source of Greek and Roman demigods and goddesses … Zeus, Apollo,  Aphrodite, Artemis … super-beings with super knowledge.
• Since Christ’s first coming, accompanied by the  general dispensation of the Holy Spirit, they have quietly receded into the  background. But just as prophesied for the latter days, they have risen to  prominence once again.
• To put it bluntly, they were man’s earliest contact with  "aliens from outer space."
• Given their transdimensional origins, they have the  ability to appear in the guise most easily accepted by contemporary society. In  the current case, they simply meet man’s expectations that there is life on  other planets. So they pose as extraterrestrial visitors, bringing advanced  technology.
• And their goal is the same, namely, to corrupt man to such an  extent that Christ’s redemption is rendered null and void.
• But make no mistake, they are one and the same people as the  ancient gods.
• Old Gods and New
• In the book of Deuteronomy’s Song of Moses, Israel is rebuked  for having worshiped these false gods:

• "They provoked him to jealousy with strange gods, with  abominations provoked they him to anger.

   

  "They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they  knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not"  (Deut. 32:16,17).
• Moses’ song is an extended prophecy for the latter days,  predicting the events that will characterize Israel’s beliefs and behaviors in  the period leading up to and including the judgments of the Tribulation.
• Here, he recalls Israel’s past involvement with the false  gods, their graven images and idols. These, we now identify as fallen angels and  their demonic subordinates. They have emerged once again to prepare the way for  the world of the Antichrist.
• Here, Moses prophesies that entirely new gods  of the same genre as the old gods will make their appearance in the latter days.  Are we seeing these today, masquerading as space travelers?
• But take note especially of the future reference to the  "new gods that came newly up."
• Jewish scholars of the past numbered the verses of the Torah,  interpreting them as years in the Jewish calendar.
• But in the above verses, there is something else of great  interest.
• The 16th and 17th verses  above are numbers 5,769 and 5,770, representing the years 5769 and 5770. In the  Gentile calendar, these would correspond to the years 2009 and 2010, in other  words, the present time.
• Though we cannot be dogmatic on the issue, it is nevertheless  compelling that this prophecy refers to new gods, unknown to the patriarchs of  ancient Israel.
• It appears that contemporary men of science and technology are  now worshiping these new gods, as they bring their gifts of advanced knowledge  from the stars. Such tokens are welcomed by those who worship science rather  than God.

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• THE WATCHERS: Fallen angels, Dinosaurs, & UFOs
• david1057
    April 09, 2008
• The book of Enoch as well as the bible gives us an inside look and deeper understanding of the fallen angels, their influence towards mankind, as well as explaining the origin of mythological creatures, dinosaurs, & UFOs.
• http://thetruthandlight.wordpress.com/

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• Tuesday, December 29, 2009
• UFOs And Human Mutilations
• Some Graphic Language Used In Clips (no photos)
• "Something Wicked This Way Comes"
• When I was first told of the possibility that ETs may be mutilating humans I recoiled at the idea.
• I believed fervently that ETs are not Gods, but they certainly are intelligent enough to distinguish between a cognitive species and those that are not.
• I just didn't believe they would do that. It just seemed to be so blatantly uncaring and just plain stupid.
• It's one thing when you experiment with cattle but to do it to humans and just let the body lie there…it was against common sense, even if you believed they were demons.
• I had gone to the PA MUFON conference at the science center in Blue Hill Pennsylvania.
• It was a fun time and the there were a great many young people in attendance for the first day.

• Web Site:
  

  http://www.pamufon.com/
• It was during this conference that a speaker named Butch Witkowski took the stage.
• The title of the talk was "Abductions".
• I had thought it was j another MUFON researcher presenting on a group of abductees and their cases…boy was I wrong.
• A friend of mine last year had asked me to do some reading on "Human Mutilations" he mentioned a case in South America.
• I told him I believed it was copy cat murder. Some maniac had read about cattle mutilations and copied it trying to throw the police off.
• Then enters Butch Witkoski a homicide detective with 27 years experience.
• When he spoke on stage that day at PA MUFON about "human mutilations" and how inexplicable the forensics around these case tuned out to be, I listened intently.
• As much as the topic doesn't make sense it still scared me.
• What stopped me cold about his presentation was Butch believed, and seemed to find supporting evidence, that at least one of the human victims was alive during the mutilation.

  • There are reports within "deliverance" ministries and even embedded in the myths, legends and stories going back thousands of years of "demons" or "evil supernatural entities "tearing" people apart. In the case of demonic possession of "tearing" them from the inside. Whatever the truth of these reports and stories whether this "tearing apart" be literal or metaphorical, this article on UFO/ET mutilation of humans certainly parallels these accounts from Christian doctrine and non-Christian cultures spanning millenia.
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• What if there are some bad ETs that break the rules?
• Maybe what they do is against a cosmic policy.
• Do they know humans will fluff it off, rather than believe it could be real? It seems that is exactly what was has been done with these cases.
• efore I present some clips from Butch's presentation let me underline from him some facts for you.
• After all is said and done an average of 250, 000 people disappear every year, of that number an average of 30,000 people disappear each year with no explanation.
• The latter numbers are released only after all avenues of explanation have been examined and thrown out.
• Explanations like: run a ways, starting a new life, cheating family member or abuse, human abduction, murder and many more.
• These missing 30,000 people might as well have disappeared off the planet. Some were just doing what they normally do and wham; their gone.
• "I'm going down to bye some milk"; person disappears and never found again.
• Most of what happened to these missing persons may never be explained, and in the end probably have mundane explanations. However there is room for speculations in this arena.
• If ETs are mutilating humans can we attain the evidence to prove it?
• Another item I like to bring out is what Ed Grimsley told me.
• Ed Grimsley is a great champion for UFO research he took a group of us out to view UFOs through Generation 3 night vision goggles;
• We had over 24 people broken up in small groups each with their own goggles. When anyone found an object they would flash their laser and we could all follow along.
• Of course some were mistakes but by the end of the spotting all of us together had six separate sightings one even without the scope.
• This object could not be explained by any means we could think of.
• Grimsley recounted to us that he and some of his friends had witnessed UFO object which seem to shoot beams at other UFO objects.
• The objects hit, usually veers off course and they look like they burn up in the atmosphere.
• I believe to this day Ed and his friends were not lying. I bring this up here because it is possible that what is being done by some ETs is not accepted by the majority of other ETs and sometimes Ed sees the results.

  • War in the Heavens? The Bible speaks of combat in the high places, heavenlies, ether between the evil angels of Satan and the good (Holy) angelic host of God. SEE: the Book of Daniel in the Old Testament where Daniel was praying for days and then the angel (messenger) Gabriel appeared to him and told Daniel that as soon as he began to pray Gabriel had been dispatched by God with the answer but Gabriel had been delayed..obstructed by the "Prince of Persia." This was not a human, mortal prince of the Persian Empire but a high ranking evil angel with authority over that Empire in the spiritual dimension. Gabriel went on to tell Daniel that only when Michael, the angelic prince of the people of Israel, came to Gabriel's aid was he able to extricate himself and continue on to Daniel with the answer to his prayer.
    
    Further: the Book of Revelation in the New Testament speaks of war in the heavens between good and bad angels. The Bible also hints at a great cosmic battle in the long unrecorded past when Lucifer rebelled with his corrupted angelic hosts against God and the remaining two-thirds of angels who stayed loyal to the Godhead.
    
    How do angels fight and with what? Well it is hard to accept they would use conventional, paltry weapons of we mortals like bullets and gas. Maybe they do fight with some kind of energy, plasma weapon or even something our finite human minds cannot even conceive.
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• With this possibility in mind I listened as this man presented the scariest scenario of all…HUMAN MULTILATIONS BY ETs.
• DVD: Backcountry Productions: Abductions. Butch Witokoski

• Clip Two

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• To purchase the whole DVD call "Backcountry Productions" 904 460 2379 $20.
• If we do find this out to be true what can we do?
• Are people being killed by ETs, militated to find what they need?
• If ETs are doing this and no one is stopping them do we really want contact?
• There some very good human beings and some very evil ones on this world, is this what is reflected all over the universe with other cognitive species?
• These are open question and can't be answered by abductees and contactees simply because, if some ETs could do this type of evil… lying would be a walk in the park.
• Note: In no way do I mean that it is OK for ETs to experiment on animals. But I think most of us know that human mutilations would put, at least some ETs, in a whole new light.
• Joseph Capp
  UFO Media Matters
  Non-Commercial Blog

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• Gordon Creighton on Aliens Ufos Human & Cattle Mutilations
• klarazg
    October 30, 2009
• Quantum Cosmology: Gordon Creighton, diplomat, civil servant, and Editor of Flying Saucer Review, was born on April 26, 1908. He died on July 16, 2003, aged 95. GOVERNMENT service occupied most of the working life of Gordon Creighton, but he perhaps made his greatest mark as an authority on unidentified flying objects. His specialization in international relations in the eastern hemisphere was accompanied by a love of languages. He studied 20 of them, including Russian, Chinese and Sanskrit. His conviction that extra-terrestrials were visiting Earth seemed oddly at variance with the more orthodox worlds of diplomacy and Whitehall. Governments, Creighton believed, have been lying about the UFO problem for more than 50 years, and take the subject far more seriously than they will admit.
• He said that on one occasion President Eisenhowers whereabouts for several hours were kept secret. The President, Creighton said, had been called to an airbase where an alien craft was hovering, but had insisted that the incident should never be made public. Creightons interest in UFOs was stimulated in the summer of 1941, when he saw a white disc with a piercingly bright bluish light on top racing through the sky in the far west of China, near the eastern marches of Tibet. At the time he was with the British Embassy in Chinas wartime capital Chungking. Creighton was of the opinion that we are the result of superior engineering and there is a struggle going on for control of us.

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• JOHN LEAR - HUMAN MUTILATION FROM ALIENS UFO
• LatestInfo
    January 16, 2009
• JOHN LEAR
  Alens from Roswell.
  18 different alien species.
  The Greys are constantly monitoring us - find out why.
  There was over 200 aircraft and 100,000's of civilians lost due to these aliens.
  The Government has a list of civilians that will be obducted.
  John also speaks of human mutilation!!!
  "Kenedy had to go! After Kenedy, no other president knew of these happenings."
• Some Great Sites As Follows:
  
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  http://www.infowars.com/
  http://prisonplanet.tv/
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  http://fluoridealert.org/
  http://www.vaclib.org/
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  http://www.jimmarrs.com/
  http://www.projectcamelot.org/
  http://www.december212012.com/
  http://2012connect.ning.com/profile/M...

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• Human Mutilations By Aliens
• klarazg
    June 05, 2009
• Brazilian Human Mutilation Cases
  http://www.think-aboutit.com/mutilati...
  download a copy of the actual autopsy report
  http://www.alienvideo.net/0805/img/al...

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• Whitley Streiber about abducitons, mutilations on C2Cam p1
• MlSTERPRESlDENT
    July 29, 2009
• Authors Whitley Strieber and Craig Spector discussed their new graphic novel The Nye Incidents which concerns mysterious cases of human mutilation. Dr. Roger Leir joined the program for a segment and noted that in the New Jersey cases, a medical professional told him the men were cut in a style similar to the cattle mutilations. BROADCASTED 17 April 2008

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• Whitley Streiber about abducitons, mutilations on C2Cam p2
• MlSTERPRESlDENT
    July 29, 2009
• Authors Whitley Strieber and Craig Spector discussed their new graphic novel The Nye Incidents which concerns mysterious cases of human mutilation. Dr. Roger Leir joined the program for a segment and noted that in the New Jersey cases, a medical professional told him the men were cut in a style similar to the cattle mutilations. BROADCASTED 17 April 2008

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• Whitley Streiber about abducitons, mutilations on C2Cam p3
• MlSTERPRESlDENT
    July 29, 2009
• Authors Whitley Strieber and Craig Spector discussed their new graphic novel The Nye Incidents which concerns mysterious cases of human mutilation. Dr. Roger Leir joined the program for a segment and noted that in the New Jersey cases, a medical professional told him the men were cut in a style similar to the cattle mutilations. BROADCASTED 17 April 2008

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• Whitley Streiber about abducitons, mutilations on C2Cam p4
• MlSTERPRESlDENT
    July 29, 2009
• Authors Whitley Strieber and Craig Spector discussed their new graphic novel The Nye Incidents which concerns mysterious cases of human mutilation. Dr. Roger Leir joined the program for a segment and noted that in the New Jersey cases, a medical professional told him the men were cut in a style similar to the cattle mutilations. BROADCASTED 17 April 2008

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• Whitley Streiber about abducitons, mutilations on C2Cam p5
• MlSTERPRESlDENT
    July 29, 2009
• Authors Whitley Strieber and Craig Spector discussed their new graphic novel The Nye Incidents which concerns mysterious cases of human mutilation. Dr. Roger Leir joined the program for a segment and noted that in the New Jersey cases, a medical professional told him the men were cut in a style similar to the cattle mutilations. BROADCASTED 17 April 2008

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• Whitley Streiber about abducitons, mutilations on C2Cam p6
• MlSTERPRESlDENT
    July 29, 2009
• Authors Whitley Strieber and Craig Spector discussed their new graphic novel The Nye Incidents which concerns mysterious cases of human mutilation. Dr. Roger Leir joined the program for a segment and noted that in the New Jersey cases, a medical professional told him the men were cut in a style similar to the cattle mutilations. BROADCASTED 17 April 2008

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• Whitley Streiber about abducitons, mutilations on C2Cam p7
• MlSTERPRESlDENT
    July 29, 2009
• Authors Whitley Strieber and Craig Spector discussed their new graphic novel The Nye Incidents which concerns mysterious cases of human mutilation. Dr. Roger Leir joined the program for a segment and noted that in the New Jersey cases, a medical professional told him the men were cut in a style similar to the cattle mutilations. BROADCASTED 17 April 2008

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• Whitley Streiber about abducitons, mutilations on C2Cam p8
• MlSTERPRESlDENT
    July 29, 2009
• Authors Whitley Strieber and Craig Spector discussed their new graphic novel The Nye Incidents which concerns mysterious cases of human mutilation. Dr. Roger Leir joined the program for a segment and noted that in the New Jersey cases, a medical professional told him the men were cut in a style similar to the cattle mutilations. BROADCASTED 17 April 2008

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• Whitley Streiber about abducitons, mutilations on C2Cam p9
• MlSTERPRESlDENT
    July 29, 2009
• Authors Whitley Strieber and Craig Spector discussed their new graphic novel The Nye Incidents which concerns mysterious cases of human mutilation. Dr. Roger Leir joined the program for a segment and noted that in the New Jersey cases, a medical professional told him the men were cut in a style similar to the cattle mutilations. BROADCASTED 17 April 2008

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• Whitley Streiber about abducitons, mutilations on C2Cam p10
• MlSTERPRESlDENT
    July 29, 2009
• Authors Whitley Strieber and Craig Spector discussed their new graphic novel The Nye Incidents which concerns mysterious cases of human mutilation. Dr. Roger Leir joined the program for a segment and noted that in the New Jersey cases, a medical professional told him the men were cut in a style similar to the cattle mutilations. BROADCASTED 17 April 2008

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• Whitley Streiber about abducitons, mutilations on C2Cam p11
• MlSTERPRESlDENT
    July 29, 2009
• Authors Whitley Strieber and Craig Spector discussed their new graphic novel The Nye Incidents which concerns mysterious cases of human mutilation. Dr. Roger Leir joined the program for a segment and noted that in the New Jersey cases, a medical professional told him the men were cut in a style similar to the cattle mutilations. BROADCASTED 17 April 2008

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• Whitley Streiber about abducitons, mutilations on C2Cam p12
• MlSTERPRESlDENT
    July 29, 2009
• Authors Whitley Strieber and Craig Spector discussed their new graphic novel The Nye Incidents which concerns mysterious cases of human mutilation. Dr. Roger Leir joined the program for a segment and noted that in the New Jersey cases, a medical professional told him the men were cut in a style similar to the cattle mutilations. BROADCASTED 17 April 2008

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• Sunday, December 27, 2009
• The Todd Sees Case: Alien Abduction, Murder and Coverup
• NOTE: this case, for the most part, has been suppressed from general knowledge.
• I have posted the NUFORC report and summary as well as a few local media reports.
• There is a very strong possibility of conspiracy.
• Read and forward your opinion...Lon
• Occurred : 8/4/2002 17:30 (Entered as : 8/2/2002 5:30 Pm)
  Reported: 8/29/2002 2:56:17 PM 14:56
  Posted: 2/14/2006
• Location: Northumberland, PA
  Shape: Disk
  Duration:20 min.
• ((NUFORC Note: We have contacted a local newspaper in Northumberland County, and to the police officer who served as investigator of the case.
• The newspaper confirms that the incident occurred, although the police officer stated that the decendant's remains had been returned to the family, contrary to the claims made by some regarding this case.
• The official report will be released in late September, according to the police officer, and we will attempt to obtain a copy of it. PD))
• A man named Todd Sees, was abducted and murdered by aliens on Montour Ridge ,in Northumberland County, near the town of Northumberland, Pa.
• This is a big sloppy coverup if there ever was one.
• Todd Sees the victim, lived at the foot of Montour Ridge,a mountain stretching over 20 miles east.
• Todd Sees went up the mountain to look for preseason deer. He told his wife that he would be home by noon.
• He rode his 4 wheeler up the powerline behind his home at a little after 5:00 in the morning.
• Noon came and no Todd, his wife and children became concerned,at 2:00 a search party was organized ,local police, state police , paramedics ,and 200 volunteers helped search for Todd Sees.
• The 4 wheeler was found on the top of the mountain near a powerline,tracking dogs could find nothing to go on around the 4 wheeler.
• The search went on for 2 days over 6 miles of mountain were covered ,from top to bottom. Todd vanished with out a trace,
• the 4 wheeler was keep in mind ,2 miles from his home at the foot of the mountain.
• A pond a few hundred yards from the house was even searched by skin divers just so they overlooked nothing . Dogs were over the whole area constantly no results, no trace,
• then in the evening of the 2nd day something white was spotted in a large brushy area 25 feet from the pond,police and rescue workers spent 20 minutes cutting and hacking, brush and small trees so they could reach what looked like a body.
• It was Todd Sees, he was wearing his underwear, he was emaciated, not, bloated, he was white, he had an expression of horror on his face.
• When he went up the mountain he was fully dressed, boots, camo vest, hat, socks and pants.
• The F.B.I. showed up with in 30 minutes, they took charge, they would not let the wife look at her dead husband, no matter how much she tried.
• The F.B.I. asked questions around the area, neighbors, mostly farmers,
• 3 farmers on one farm said they saw a large round bright object, just above the powerlines, at the time of the disappearance, it was silent, it did not move fora! bout 10 to 15 minutes.
• It suddenly went up and suddenly stopped,a light shined down and something was pulled up into the light.
• It then went straight up,hesitated again then went west over the Susquehanna River and out of sight.
• A police friend of mine said after 2 autopsies nothing was found a toxicology test revealed nothing,no visible cuts or bruises any where except from the brush.
• Now the body is at Allentown, from there it is going to Fort Indiantown Gap,Pa.
• The wife was told she can not have the body for 6 to 8 weeks.
• A boot was found a mile from the 4 wheeler a few days ago at the top of a tree, it was his.
• I notice military copters have been scouring the mountain ever since at least once a day.
• PRELIMINARY STATEMENT REGARDING THE DEATH OF MR. TODD SEES, OF NORTHUMBERLAND COUNTY , PENNSYLVANIA , ON SUNDAY, AUGUST 4TH, 2002.
• I. PREFACE
• Because this report addresses the tragic and untimely death on August 4th, 2002 , of a young man, Mr. Todd Sees, of Northumberland County , Pennsylvania ,
• we preface by extending our sincere condolences to the family members who survive him. It has never been our intention to cause family members of the late Mr. Sees' any distress over this matter, although we understand that the information originating from our website, because of its nature, may have been upsetting to them.
• Because of the pain that information may have caused them, we apologize. It was never our intention to cause pain to the family, anymore that it is the intention of a newspaper to cause pain in the course of reporting on such a tragic, and unusual, event.
• II. BACKGROUND/CHRONOLOGY
• On Wednesday, August 28, 2002 , the National UFO Reporting Center ("NUFORC") received a brief, one-paragraph, report, criticizing our Center for not having covered an alleged "alien abduction,"
• which, the source asserted, had occurred in Lewisburg , Pennsylvania .
• Even though the report did not appear to be either serious, or carefully prepared, we responded, nevertheless, requesting more information from the person who had submitted it.
• he individual, who provided no telephone number, responded via e-mail, describing the death of Mr. Todd Sees, and further asserting that circumstances surrounding the death had been very unusual.
• The source asserted that the death itself was mysterious and unexplained; that certain facts surrounding the follow-up investigation were unusual;
• that federal authorities had been called into the investigation; that the family members of the decedent were not allowed to witness the victim's remains;
• The individual went on to assert that the death had been related to UFO, and/or alien, activity.
• Despite repeated attempts by NUFORC to obtain more information about the individual, we have not succeeded in talking directly with the person.
• NUFORC decided to follow up on the unsubstantiated report, and, on August 30th, we telephoned The Daily Item newspaper in Northumberland County , PA , in attempt to establish whether the initial report had any basis in fact.
• The staff member we spoke with there confirmed that such an incident had, in fact, occurred, and that the newspaper had published several articles about the death, and about the subsequent investigation.
• (Please see two of the articles at the end of this report.))
• The staff member apprised NUFORC that the investigation had been conducted by the Point Township police department, and she directed us to those offices for more detailed information about the continuing investigation.
• On that same date, we telephoned the Point Township police department and spoke with an officer, who identified himself as "Sgt. Cottner" (sp?), and who stated that he had been the investigating officer on the case.
• He added that the incident had been categorized by the police as an "unexplained death," but he made it clear that he could not, and would not, discuss the case.
• He stated that the police report would be available in "late September," and he suggested that we should wait for the official report to be released.
• That same day, NUFORC telephoned the office of Mr. James Kelley, County Coroner for Northumberland County , hoping to obtain more information about the cause of the victim's death.
• In a conversation several days later, Mr. Kelley apprised us that the death had occurred, that he had performed the autopsy on the victim, that no cause of death had been established, and that photographs had been taken of the victim's remains during autopsy.
• He added that autopsy photographs are "never released."
• Mr. Kelley, like Sgt. Cottner, made it clear that he could not discuss the case in any detail.
• Based on the information we had obtained by September 5th from these official sources, NUFORC decided to release the report originally submitted to our Center, even though we had not yet succeeded in obtaining the newspaper articles, or any other detailed information, about the death and subsequent investigation.
• At that the time of the posting on September 8th, we had not anticipated the effect that the release would have in the public forum.
• The case was commented on during a radio appearance on September 10th by Peter Davenport, NUFORC Director, on the Jeff Rense Radio Program, and the report that NUFORC had released was posted to the website.
• The next day, a relative of Mr. Sees telephoned NUFORC, apprising our offices that the family had been quite upset by some of the information contained in the original report, and that they had had no inkling that there might be such grossly unusual circumstances, as asserted in those reports, surrounding his death.
• At that time, we extended our apology to the family for any distress our actions might have caused them.
• In addition, we explained to the family member that we had spoken with the local authorities and with the newspaper, and that our information was based on our findings of fact.
• The family member, after she had heard our explanation of the actions we had taken in attempt to gain access to more, factual information from the authorities, stated that she understood our position in the matter.
• During the last two weeks of September, NUFORC has made numerous attempts to obtain more information, but unsuccessfully, to date.
• During a brief conversation with Chief Gary Steffen, Chief of Police for the Point Township police department, he apprised NUFORC that an investigation into the "unexplained death" was underway, and that he could not comment further.
• However, he did aver that he was familiar with the information on the NUFORC website, and that he was "following developments" there.
• Also, he confirmed that no family member had been summoned to identify Mr. Sees' remains, but added that it was not necessary to do so, since he, the Chief, had been personally acquainted with the victim, and he was able to identify the remains at the site where the body was found by volunteer searchers.
• Chief Steffen has failed to return our last four messages to his office, requesting a return telephone call.
• In a brief follow-up conversation with Sgt. Cottner, the latter stated that he could not reveal any more facts about the case, and that the Chief probably would not return our calls.
• He refused to respond to our question as to whether federal law enforcement officers had been involved in the follow-up investigation of the case.
• Finally, we have encouraged a number of members of the press, both local and national, to investigate the incident, hoping that they might be more successful in obtaining from authorities information that NUFORC was not able to obtain.
• In addition, as part of our investigation, we continue in our attempt to locate and interview members of the approximately 200-member search party that was involved in the 2-day search for Mr. Sees' body.
• Some of the questions we are attempting to resolve appear in the next section of this preliminary report.
• III. UNRESOLVED ISSUES
• We list below a few of the questions surrounding the death of Mr. Sees that we have attempted to answer, but which we feel remain unresolved, as of the date of this summary:
• 1. If the death of Mr. Sees is being investigated as an "unexplained death," and not a homicide, why are the local authorities involved in the investigation refusing to comment on the case?
• If the death, in fact, was the result of a snake bite, a bee sting, a diabetic coma, or exposure, all of which have been proposed as the cause of death, why are the police, the coroner, and the district attorney all refusing to comment on the case?
• 2. If the victim's remains were so badly decayed or disfigured that the family could not have an open casket funeral ceremony, why was no family member, or representative of the family, e.g. a family physician, summoned to establish positive identification of the body?
• Also, under what authority did officials act in their apparently informing the family of the decedent that the casket containing his remains should not be opened before its burial?
• In addition, how could a body become so badly decayed in 39 hours, or less, of exposure that it was unfit for viewing by the family, or at a funeral?
• 3. If, indeed, unconfirmed reports that special agents from the FBI, or from another federal law-enforcement agency, were summoned to the site where the victim's remains were found, why were they summoned, and by whom?
• What interest would federal authorities have in an allegedly accidental, or "unexplained," death, if there were not extenuating circumstances?
• Moreover, why would members of the Point Township police department refuse to comment on whether federal authorities had been involved in the investigation?
• 4. If tracking dogs were used during the search for Mr. Sees, it seems unusual to us that they would not be able to immediately track the path that the victim presumably took, as he walked, perhaps barefoot, from his vehicle to the location where his remains ultimately were found by searchers.
• Tracking dogs are very adept at following a scent, and it seems unusual that they could not locate remains that reportedly were badly decayed at the time the body was discovered.
• In addition to those questions outlined above, we feel there are many specific questions surrounding the death of Mr. Sees, which have yet to be resolved by any follow-up investigation.
• For example, the apparent absence of any apparent cause of death seems unusual, given that the decedent was a seemingly quite healthy and fit young man.
• In addition, it is unclear to us why an experienced outdoorsman, as Mr. Sees apparently was, would abandon his vehicle, shed his outer garments, doff his boots, and walk an estimated two miles toward his home, leaving his vehicle, still in good working condition, on top of the nearby mountain.
• There apparently are many other aspects surrounding the death, which seem unusual, and which we do not address here.
• IV. SUMMARY
• As of the date of this writing (September 30, 2002), we have no idea what caused the death of Mr. Sees, and we certainly have no evidence, aside from unsubstantiated assertions, several of them from anonymous sources, that there was anything "unworldly" associated with his tragic demise.
• However, in light of the many recent reports from South America that have come to our attention over recent months of allegedly strange deaths, and possible human mutilations, we feel that further investigation into this case is justified.
• We will pursue the case, to the best of our ability, and will attempt to bring some satisfactory resolution to this apparent mystery.
• Most of all, we hope to be able to obtain copies of the official reports pertaining to the death, if and when they are released, and we will report them here in a final report.
• We close by again expressing our condolences to the family of Mr. Sees over his death, and by apologizing if our paricipation in this matter has caused them over the tragic loss of their loved one.
• Report prepared by: Peter B. Davenport, Director, NUFORC (September 30, 2002)
• NORTHUMBERLAND -- A Northumberland man whose body was found in the woods here in August died because of cocaine, police said in a release Friday.
• While Northumberland County Coroner James Kelley would not qualify the death as an overdose, the press release listed Todd Sees' cause of death as "cocaine toxicity."
• Police said the manner of death is accidental.
• Kelley said he could not release the amount of cocaine in Sees' blood because his death was still under investigation.
  
• Point Township police could not be contacted Friday for further comment about what they were investigating.
• The family of Sees, 39, reported him missing on Aug. 4. Searchers found his body in the evening of the next day.
• In the past month, while police were waiting for the results of toxicology tests, a group of UFO Web sites published anonymous reports that a UFO may have been involved in the death. Officials called the reports "ridiculous."
• Kelley, along with Point Township Police Chief Gary Steffen and Sgt. Seth Cotner, met with the Sees family Thursday night to inform them of the toxicology results, police said.
• ___
  
  NORTHUMBERLAND, Pa. -- The unexplained death of a man near here has become fodder for UFO enthusiasts, who have made it into a tale of alien attack and spread it around the world via the Internet.
• The bizarre interest in the death of Todd Sees has aggravated investigators trying to determine the cause of his death, who also worry the tales will deepen the anguish the Sees family is feeling.
• Sees, 39, a Little League coach and father of two, was found dead in the woods near here in August.
• The anonymous Internet postings blame his death on a UFO.
• Officials dismiss the stories as ridiculous. But they don't yet know how or why he died, and they have no way of preventing story-tellers from filling that vacuum with speculation.
• Searchers found the body of Sees about 150 yards from his Northumberland home along Route 147 in a heavily wooded area Aug. 5.
• He had taken out his all-terrain vehicle the day before, planning to track deer. After a 30-hour search by more than 250 people, his family found his body.
• An autopsy the next day failed to establish a cause of death, said Northumberland County Coroner James Kelley.
• A toxicology report, which could detect the presence of drugs, poisons or other substances at the microscopic level, is expected by mid-October, he said.
• But even before August was over, some Web sites began featuring anonymous tales that Sees had died in an encounter with extraterrestrials.
• Here's what they say:
• A farmer who did not give his name said he saw a round disk over Montour Ridge. It moved quickly, stopped and shot a light to the ground. The farmer then saw a man being pulled up the light head first into the bottom of the craft.
• Seconds later, the disk flew away.
• When searchers found the man's body, some of these anonymous reports say, it was partially clothed and had a look of horror on its face.
• Some claim federal agents soon showed up to take over the investigation and didn't let the family see Sees' emaciated body.
• 'Ridiculous'
• "They're so ridiculous and far-fetched," said the investigating officer, Sgt. Seth Cotner of the Point Township Police.
• Cotner said he's seen a number of the Internet stories, and his department has taken "several" calls from UFO organizations.
  
  None of the reports he has read was accurate, Cotner said. No police report on Sees' death has yet been issued.
• Cotner said police "all certainly hope" the toxicology report will clear up the mystery of Sees' death.
  
  There are no federal agencies involved in the investigation, he added.
• Linda Vizi, a spokeswoman for the FBI, said she had not heard of the case. "But I know that Congress does not mandate us to investigate UFOs," Vizi said.
• Very traumatic'
• Kelley, the coroner, said he saw the body, and the Internet reports he had read were inaccurate.
  
  He said he couldn't go into the details, since the case is still under investigation.
• The family had been asked not to open the casket when they received Sees' remains, he said.
• "Letting them see it would have been very traumatic for them," Kelley said.
• Todd Sees' family declined comment through relative Traci Sees.
• The naked eye examination of the body during the autopsy turned up no evidence of trauma, heart attack or any other obvious cause of death, Kelley said.
• "We're still following every possible avenue," he said, including the possibility of a snakebite or bee sting. But there was no visible sign of either of those, he said.
  
• UFO groups have contacted Kelley looking for information. But since the investigation is still under way, he said he cannot get into details.
• I want the facts out'
• To Peter Davenport, it's not about belief, it's about facts. Davenport is director of the National UFO Reporting Center, the Web site on which the first Sees reports appeared.
  
  "I want the facts out," Davenport said.
• He was not comfortable saying there was UFO involvement in Todd Sees' death. More facts must be gathered, he said.
• Davenport said he became interested in the case when he received the first report of a UFO sighting Aug. 18, before he knew Sees had died.
  
• He said in that anonymous report someone stated that a farmer and three fishermen had seen a flying disk.
• It wasn't until the end of the month, when another person said they had seen a person drawn up into the disk, that Davenport said he got interested.
• He said he spoke briefly with Kelley and Point Township police, but they stopped returning his calls.
• Davenport's site, at www.nuforc.org/index.html, posts five to 25 reports of UFO sightings per day, he said.
  
  Those that make it to the site are only those that "warrant attention," he said.
  
  Davenport said he screens out those that are obvious hoaxes.
• Sources:
  www.nuforc.org/
  www.rense.com/
  www.pressenterpriseonline.com/
  www.unknowncountry.com/

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• Monday, December 28, 2009

   

    

   FAA Makes Curious `UFO Call Statement' - As UK Shuts Down Same
• recently, again as you may know, I ran a post about how the UK has shut down the office that used to collect UFO reports from the public for investigation
• here's that link - http://ufodisclosurecountdownclock.blogspot.com/2009/12/what-uks-ministry-of-defenses-shut-down.html.
• The reason given by the UK was that in 50 years of investigating the reports - there never has been a security issue in regards to UFO's - and - it will save money in these tough economic times -
• THEN, about a week later - the FAA - out of the blue -- decides to issue a statement about where airline pilots and air traffic controllers should report UFO's -
• this was the supposed statement:
• "Persons wanting to report UFO/unexplained phenomena activity should contact a UFO/ unex­ plained phenomena reporting data collection center, such as Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) (voice: 1-877-979-7444 or e-mail: Reporting@baass.org)"
• Now, being the type of person I am ------- suspicious ---------- this seemed odd; weird, strange, ----- almost Fortean.
• Why would the FAA, after ALL these decades, suddenly, have an interest in UFO reports and WHY would suddenly - there be a `specific' group to call? WHY?
• But, upon reading the story - I immediately was familiar with the Bigelow name - having read `In Search Of The Skinwalker' years ago.
• I also knew about NIDS (National Institute For Discovery Science, I believe) a `study group' that was funded by Bigelow in the past (perhaps still) to study anomalous events -
• Also, if you have read `Skinwalker' you are aware that Mr. Bigelow's study of the ranch basically `confirmed' the existence of `dimensional portals with dimensional entities/creatures'.
• Now, believe it or not - this is where all of this begins to get interesting to a UFO blogger like myself.
• The reason being -- Mr. Bigelow recently became the moneyman behind a new MUFON endeavor called `Star Team' - a supposed 24/7 group of folks ready to investigate UFO reports of an anomalous nature.
• Here's the lowdown on `Star Team'http://www.mufon.com/documents/STARTeamImpactProjectOverview.pdf.
• Are you still with me?
• Now, all that sounds like GREAT news - right? I mean, what could be better than some money FINALLY being available to study UFO reportees - by an independent agency such as MUFON?----------------- Right? ----------- Well, not so fast, perhaps.
• You see, some bloggers have been on MUFON's case in the recent past and even before - always ignored up to now.
• Indeed, Joe Capp at UFO Media Matters recently outlined MUFON's horrible `Star Team' response of an amazing UFO encounter that ultimately involved, after the fact, MIB (men in black) and the typical unmarked helicopters.
• Here's that post - http://ufomedia.blogspot.com/2009/12/mufons-600-lb-gorilla-common-sense.html ---
• and, earlier this fall, Joe Capp also called for MUFON to release a study they supposedly did with folks who claim bedroom alien abductions using video cameras and such - wondering -- where are the study results?
• But, even before Joe's post about MUFON's 600 pound gorilla, Lon Strickler had printed
  this criticism of MUFON from the internet forum called Above Top Secret - called `MUFON, Who Are They Really' - http://naturalplane.blogspot.com/2009/12/following-is-from-thread-on-ats-for.html
• then Lon on Christmas eve posted `Press Release Proves MUFON And Feds Connected' http://naturalplane.blogspot.com/2009/12/press-release-proves-mufon-and-feds-one.html.
• And, as a result of those posts -- MUFON directly answered back to Lon with this response defending the organization http://naturalplane.blogspot.com/2009/12/mufon-responds-to-posts.html.
  
• Now, reading between the lines about Mr. Capp's assertions about MUFON and Lon's readers experiences (Joe's readers too) --
• it doesn't take too much of an imagination to believe that UFO reports are now being `funnelled' - into organizations that may be less than forthcoming with the results -
• (In the links above you can see how some MUFON reports `vanish'.) - while providing the `cover' of real investigative interest.
• Now, as Lon says - I don't want to get into a pissing match with MUFON or BAASS either -
• and I've already detailed on my blogs Real Heavy Politics and UFO Disclosure Countdown Clock - how the government seems interested in my viewpoints*
• BUT, it seems mighty strange for the FAA to give one damn about who those reports should go to by the MOST BELIEVABLE AUTHORITIES - PILOTS AND AIR CONTROL ---
• and then - for THAT company to have ANY link to MUFON - doubles that strangeness.
• Or, could this be a way for Mr. Bigelow - to be positioned by our government - as the ultimate spokesperson for `Anomalous Disclosure' to the world?
  
• Or, is this all Barf Stew? I welcome your comments.
• *Real Heavy Politics has been visited by the Presidents office (Nov20th). UDCC has it's MOST visitors in the world from Alexandria Virgina.
• My personal views on where the politics of UFO Disclosure stand can be found at http://realheavypolitics.blogspot.com/2009/10/real-heavy-politics-of-american-ufo.html.
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• Lon said... 

   

   

  A raw nerve has been rubbed....there is something behind Bigelow's involvement and I think Rick has exposed a bit more...

   

   

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