good stuff - lurkers are never 100% lurkers they usually share the info.
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Add Sticky NoteEven if they don't uncloak in public, they'll email people who are having conversations, and drive things along
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09 Jan 09
Ron Mecredyvery interesting interview...thanks spdrock
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02 Jun 08
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HotMail brought us all to the realization that the web could be a new interface for existing social platforms.
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by 2000, that you could actually start to get real social density,
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social density
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What's a cheap way to accomplish my goal?" And, very often, the cheap way was to get the users involved. And once we started down that path, the possibilities just opened up
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There was a famous example of this in the attempt to put MetroCards – to put digital card readers – in the New York City subway system. There was a very grim interim report from the Department of Transit, because they were using the token system and the MetroCard system at the same time, saying we've wired 80% of the stations, but we're not seeing 80% of the users use MetroCards. "Oh woe is me, woe is me, this whole thing is potentially a disaster."
And then you read on a little farther, and you realize they hadn't put the MetroCard Readers in Times Square or Union Square yet, which are two of the busiest subway stations. So as long as anybody had to use a token in any station, they weren't going to switch to the MetroCard. Social applications work exactly like that. Merely getting 80% of the people in your business on email meant that there were still significant conversations that you couldn't have online. And so people wouldn't make the switch.
Jon Lebkowsky: Well, sure. If you have a key member of your team or your group who just can't or won't adopt, just can't get it, it just can't work. You see this a lot with wiki. People want to use wiki for collaboration, but out of a dozen people in their group, three people are just totally wiki-resistant, just don't get it.
Clay Shirky: That's exactly right. And you bring up another important point. It's not just the availability of the technology, it's the mental availability of the user. If you've got the web, you can get access to a wiki, but if you've decided you are, as you say, wiki-resistant, it doesn't matter.
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very often really large-scale collaboration, whether it's a Wikipedia or Linux or what have you, involves a small number of people who care an enormous amount, and then a large number of people who only care a little bit, but who are participating, who are adding their value to the overall work product.
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07 May 08
Michel BauwensThere is not recipe for the successful use of social tools. Instead, every working system is a mix of social and technological factors.
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03 Apr 08
Daniel HopeDo you notice how we've started to use "friend" as a verb...like, "Yeah, I'm going to friend you".
So it's become a verb, adding to it's meaning the social actions taken on the web.
This is a great interview, btw, Jon Lebkowsky is a fellow Austinite.-
Jon Lebkowsky: When you mention friends, it makes me think about how we've started to use "friend" as a verb...
Clay Shirky: Yeah, I'm going to friend you – yes, exactly.
Jon Lebkowsky: So are we changing the meaning of that word, of what it means to be a friend.
Clay Shirky: I don't think we're changing it so much as we're adding to it, which is to say that I think people still have a sense of the old meaning of friend, as someone you would do a favor to if they were in some real trouble.
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02 Apr 08
Christian Kreutzlay Shirky is an influential writer, consultant, and teacher focused on the Internet as a social platform. He's one of the smartest thinkers I know about how people live, love, and work online. His new book, Here Comes Everybody:The Power of Organizing wi
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lay Shirky is an influential writer, consultant, and teacher focused on the Internet as a social platform. He's one of the smartest thinkers I know about how people live, love, and work online. His new book, Here Comes Everybody:The Power of Organizing without Organizations, was just published by The Penguin Press.
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David CohnHe's one of the smartest thinkers I know about how people live, love, and work online.
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01 Apr 08
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Howard SilvermanThe biggest impact will be if we find some way to defer to
groups, to allow groups to come together and make some choices for
themselves that the government defers to. Many people have floated this
idea of a policy wiki, or the notion of doing the nati -
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