WorldChanging: The Worldchanging Interview: Clay Shirky - The Diigo Meta page

• 19 May 11
  

  Ken Morrison

  NMT Shirky

• 30 Jun 09
  

  Gina Minks
  • Even if they don't uncloak in public, they'll email people who are having conversations, and drive things along

    • good stuff - lurkers are never 100% lurkers they usually share the info.
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• 09 Jan 09
  

  Ron Mecredy

  very interesting interview...thanks spdrock

  2008 collaboration shirky blog web2.0 thanks

• 08 Jan 09
  

  Sean D

  web2.0 2008 socialmedia collaboration shirky socialsoftware blogs to_read

• 07 Oct 08
  

  devrand

  shirky clay clayshirky interview social web

• 02 Jun 08
  

  Jenny Zhan

  Clay-Shirky web-evolution

  • HotMail brought us all to the realization that the web could be a new interface for existing social platforms.
  • by 2000, that you could actually start to get real social density,
  • social density
  • What's a cheap way to accomplish my goal?" And, very often, the cheap way was to get the users involved. And once we started down that path, the possibilities just opened up

  • There was a famous example of this in the attempt to put MetroCards – to put digital card readers – in the New York City subway system. There was a very grim interim report from the Department of Transit, because they were using the token system and the MetroCard system at the same time, saying we've wired 80% of the stations, but we're not seeing 80% of the users use MetroCards. "Oh woe is me, woe is me, this whole thing is potentially a disaster."

      

    And then you read on a little farther, and you realize they hadn't put the MetroCard Readers in Times Square or Union Square yet, which are two of the busiest subway stations. So as long as anybody had to use a token in any station, they weren't going to switch to the MetroCard. Social applications work exactly like that. Merely getting 80% of the people in your business on email meant that there were still significant conversations that you couldn't have online. And so people wouldn't make the switch.

      

    Jon Lebkowsky: Well, sure. If you have a key member of your team or your group who just can't or won't adopt, just can't get it, it just can't work. You see this a lot with wiki. People want to use wiki for collaboration, but out of a dozen people in their group, three people are just totally wiki-resistant, just don't get it.

      

    Clay Shirky: That's exactly right. And you bring up another important point. It's not just the availability of the technology, it's the mental availability of the user. If you've got the web, you can get access to a wiki, but if you've decided you are, as you say, wiki-resistant, it doesn't matter.
  • very often really large-scale collaboration, whether it's a Wikipedia or Linux or what have you, involves a small number of people who care an enormous amount, and then a large number of people who only care a little bit, but who are participating, who are adding their value to the overall work product.

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• 07 May 08
  

  Michel Bauwens

  There is not recipe for the successful use of social tools. Instead, every working system is a mix of social and technological factors.

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• 05 May 08
  

  roland legrand

  socialnetworks socialmedia wikis virtualcommunities web2.0 internet

• 03 Apr 08
  

  Daniel Hope

  Do you notice how we've started to use "friend" as a verb...like, "Yeah, I'm going to friend you".
  So it's become a verb, adding to it's meaning the social actions taken on the web.
  This is a great interview, btw, Jon Lebkowsky is a fellow Austinite.

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  • Jon Lebkowsky: When you mention friends, it makes me think about how we've started to use "friend" as a verb...

      

    Clay Shirky: Yeah, I'm going to friend you – yes, exactly.

      

    Jon Lebkowsky: So are we changing the meaning of that word, of what it means to be a friend.

      

    Clay Shirky: I don't think we're changing it so much as we're adding to it, which is to say that I think people still have a sense of the old meaning of friend, as someone you would do a favor to if they were in some real trouble.
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  social_networks collaboration

• 02 Apr 08
  

  Christian Kreutz

  lay Shirky is an influential writer, consultant, and teacher focused on the Internet as a social platform. He's one of the smartest thinkers I know about how people live, love, and work online. His new book, Here Comes Everybody:The Power of Organizing wi

  book openness organization social_media

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  lay Shirky is an influential writer, consultant, and teacher focused on the Internet as a social platform. He's one of the smartest thinkers I know about how people live, love, and work online. His new book, Here Comes Everybody:The Power of Organizing without Organizations, was just published by The Penguin Press.

  book openness organization social_media

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  quotidianbeats

  socialnetworking web2.0 interview shirky

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  David Cohn

  He's one of the smartest thinkers I know about how people live, love, and work online.

  Clay+Shirkey interview

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  Josephine Dorado

  ClayShirky ParticipatoryCulture socialmedia collaboration community interview web2.0

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  Danica Radovanovic

  web2.0 social networks collaboration community interview shirky internet socialsoftware web sociology

• 01 Apr 08
  

  Joitske Hulsebosch

  interview met clay shirky door jon lebkowsky

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  Howard Silverman

  The biggest impact will be if we find some way to defer to
  groups, to allow groups to come together and make some choices for
  themselves that the government defers to. Many people have floated this
  idea of a policy wiki, or the notion of doing the nati

  networks

• 31 Mar 08
  

  Christopher Rice

  web2.0 networks collaboration interview

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  Shirky discusses the move from Web 1.0 to 2.0, the importance of social networks and some history

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Public Stiky Notes

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  Yule Heibel on 2008-04-08
  I'm not sure why there's "blog-resistance," but I've seen it in Victoria (and other places): even a young kid (albeit really alt-hippie enviro-mode type) at University of Victoria stood up at a talk on newspapers to say that he would NEVER (his word) read blogs, because for one thing, he thinks it's a stupid word ("blog"). He also hates "the man" and "mainstream media" (newspapers, eg.), so you have to wonder what he's reading to stay informed.
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  Yule Heibel on 2008-04-08
  - many people aren't just wiki-resistant, they're blog-resistant, especially when it comes to trusting conversations about things they care about in their own lives or that are local.
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  Yule Heibel on 2008-04-08
  Exactly... He nails it here.
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  Gina Minks on 2009-06-30
  good stuff - lurkers are never 100% lurkers they usually share the info.
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  Yule Heibel on 2008-04-08
  - love that "discoverability of the interface" phrase
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  Yule Heibel on 2008-04-08
  - sounds like me! (But: living in Canada, with its retarded data plans for mobile phones, I really feel that I don't have the financial wherewithal to set my phone up for constant messaging: it's too expensive. I might give the GTalk option a spin -- see next paragraph.)
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  Yule Heibel on 2008-04-08
  - community aggregator platforms have to give users tools for filtering. Figure that part out (in a transparent fashion), make it attractive, good UI, and you're almost there.

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