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  • 02 Oct 09
    tchviolin
    Jeffrey Wear

    Re-deploying the cognitive surplus currently spent on non-participatory pursuits like TV to producing and sharing media could transform society.

    1% of the time currently spent watching TV in the US per year could build 100-Wikipedia like projects.

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    • having all of those people
      together stopped seeming like a crisis and started seeming like an
      asset.
    • It wasn't until people started thinking of this as a
      vast civic surplus, one they could design for rather than just
      dissipate, that we started to get what we think of now as an
      industrial society.
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  • 28 Sep 09
    • television
      watching? Two hundred billion hours, in the U.S. alone, every year.
      Put another way, now that we have a unit, that's 2,000 Wikipedia projects a
      year spent watching television. Or put still another way, in the
      U.S., we spend 100 million hours every weekend, just watching the ads.
    • The physics of participation is much more like the physics of weather
      than it is like the physics of gravity. We know all the forces that
      combine to make these kinds of things work: there's an interesting
      community over here, there's an interesting sharing model over
      there, those people are collaborating on open source software. But
      despite knowing the inputs, we can't predict the outputs yet because
      there's so much complexity.
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  • 22 Sep 09
    tarmotoikkanen
    Tarmo Toikkanen

    Clay Shirky talks about TV watching, Wikipedia, and where all the time comes from, or goes to.

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    • So if you take Wikipedia as a kind of unit,
      all of Wikipedia, the whole project--every page, every edit,
      every talk page, every line of code, in every language that Wikipedia
      exists in--that represents something like the cumulation of 100
      million hours of human thought. I worked this out with Martin Wattenberg at IBM; it's a back-of-the-envelope calculation, but
      it's the right order of magnitude, about 100 million hours of
      thought.
    • The Internet-connected population watches roughly a
      trillion hours of TV a year. That's about five times the size of the
      annual U.S. consumption. One per cent of that  is 100 Wikipedia projects per year
      worth of participation.
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    • I
      was having dinner with a group of friends about a month ago, and one
      of them was talking about sitting with his four-year-old daughter
      watching a DVD. And in the middle of the movie, apropos nothing, she
      jumps up off the couch and runs around behind the screen. That seems
      like a cute moment. Maybe she's going back there to see if Dora is
      really back there or whatever. But that wasn't what she was doing.
      She started rooting around in the cables.
    • And her dad said, "What
      you doing?" And she stuck her head out from behind the screen
      and said, "Looking for the mouse."
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  • 12 Jun 09
    auntytech
    Donna Baumbach

    If we carve out a little bit of the cognitive surplus and deploy it here, could we make a good thing happen?" And I'm betting the answer is yes. - Clay Shirky

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    nsenske
    Nicholas Senske

    And television watching? Two hundred billion hours, in the U.S. alone, every year. Put another way, now that we have a unit, that's 2,000 Wikipedia projects a year spent watching television. Or put still another way, in the U.S., we spend 100 million hours every weekend, just watching the ads. This is a pretty big surplus. People asking, "Where do they find the time?" when they're looking at things like Wikipedia don't understand how tiny that entire project is, as a carve-out of this asset that's finally being dragged into what Tim calls an architecture of participation.

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  • 18 Mar 09
  • 02 Jan 09
    • So
      that's the answer to the question, "Where do they find the
      time?" Or, rather, that's the numerical answer
    • So
      that's the answer to the question, "Where do they find the
      time?" Or, rather, that's the numerical answer.
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  • mspahr
    Mark Spahr

    This post by Clay Shirky does a great job of describing the reasons behind the popularity of Web 2.0 applications and the paradigm shift they are bringing to our world. Thanks to Dean Shareski for the link.

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  • 01 Nov 08
    • Two hundred billion hours, in the U.S. alone, every year.
      Put another way, now that we have a unit, that's 2,000 Wikipedia projects a
      year spent watching television.
    • Media
      in the 20th century was run as a single race--consumption. How
      much can we produce? How much can you consume? Can we produce more
      and you'll consume more? And the answer to that question has
      generally been yes. But media is actually a triathlon, it 's three
      different events. People like to consume, but they also like to
      produce, and they like to share.

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    • We watched I Love Lucy. We watched
      Gilligan's Island. We watch Malcolm in the Middle. We watch
      Desperate Housewives. Desperate Housewives essentially functioned as
      a kind of cognitive heat sink, dissipating thinking that might
      otherwise have built up and caused society to overheat.
    • it's
      only now, as we're waking up from that collective bender, that we're
      starting to see the cognitive surplus as an asset rather than as a
      crisis. We're seeing things being designed to take
      advantage of that surplus, to deploy it in ways more engaging than just having a TV in everybody's basement.
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    • Things like public libraries and
      museums, increasingly broad education for children, elected leaders--a lot of
      things we like--didn't happen until having all of those people
      together stopped seeming like a crisis and started seeming like an
      asset.
    • So
      I tell her all this stuff, and I think, "Okay, we're going to
      have a conversation about authority or social construction or
      whatever." That wasn't her question. She heard this story and
      she shook her head and said, "Where do people find the time?"
      That was her question. And I just kind of snapped. And I said, "No
      one who works in TV gets to ask that question. You know where the
      time comes from. It comes from the cognitive surplus you've been
      masking for 50 years."
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  • 01 Aug 08
    susanqg
    Susan Gill

    Clay Shirky on cognitive surplus: "looking for the mouse"

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  • 24 Jul 08
    • The
      transformation from rural to urban life was so sudden, and so
      wrenching, that the only thing society could do to manage was to drink
      itself into a stupor for a generation.
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  • 25 Jun 08
    jaakko
    Jaakko H.

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    • the critical technology, for the early
      phase of the industrial revolution, was gin.

      The
      transformation from rural to urban life was so sudden, and so
      wrenching, that the only thing society could do to manage was to drink
      itself into a stupor for a generation.
    • wasn't until society woke up from that collective bender that we
      actually started to get the institutional structures that we
      associate with the industrial revolution today. Things like public libraries
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    Jaakko H

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  • 04 Jun 08
    • I was having dinner with a group of friends about a month ago, and one of them was talking about sitting with his four-year-old daughter watching a DVD. And in the middle of the movie, apropos nothing, she jumps up off the couch and runs around behind the screen. That seems like a cute moment. Maybe she's going back there to see if Dora is really back there or whatever. But that wasn't what she was doing. She started rooting around in the cables. And her dad said, "What you doing?" And she stuck her head out from behind the screen and said, "Looking for the mouse."
  • 03 Jun 08
  • 01 Jun 08
    mcmorgan
    M C Morgan

    And it's only now, as we're waking up from that collective bender, that we're starting to see the cognitive surplus as an asset rather than as a crisis. We're seeing things being designed to take advantage of that surplus, to deploy it in ways more engagi

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    • And television
      watching? Two hundred billion hours, in the U.S. alone, every year.
      Put another way, now that we have a unit, that's 2,000 Wikipedia projects a
      year spent watching television. Or put still another way, in the
      U.S., we spend 100 million hours every weekend, just watching the ads.
  • 15 May 08
    amckague
    Anne McKague

    one more thing recommended by David Warlick

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    madbaker
    Mark Dyck

    WOW! Really good article on participating rather than consuming, and the potential therein.

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  • 08 May 08
    • If
      I had to pick the critical technology for the 20th
      century, the bit of social lubricant without which the wheels
      would've come off the whole enterprise, I'd say it was the sitcom.
      Starting with the Second World War a whole series of things
      happened--rising GDP per capita, rising educational attainment,
      rising life expectancy and, critically, a rising number of people who
      were working five-day work weeks. For the first time, society
      forced onto an enormous number of its citizens the requirement to manage
      something they had never had to manage before--free time.





      And what did we do with that free time? Well, mostly we spent it watching TV.







      We did that for decades. We watched I Love Lucy. We watched
      Gilligan's Island. We watch Malcolm in the Middle. We watch
      Desperate Housewives. Desperate Housewives essentially functioned as
      a kind of cognitive heat sink, dissipating thinking that might
      otherwise have built up and caused society to overheat.





      And it's
      only now, as we're waking up from that collective bender, that we're
      starting to see the cognitive surplus as an asset rather than as a
      crisis. We're seeing things being designed to take
      advantage of that surplus, to deploy it in ways more engaging than just having a TV in everybody's basement.




    • Now,
      this already exists as tacit information. Anybody who knows a town has some sense of, "Don't go there. That street
      corner is dangerous. Don't go in this neighborhood. Be
      careful there after dark." But it's something society knows
      without society really knowing it, which is to say there's no public source
      where you can take advantage of it. And the cops, if they have that information, they're
      certainly not sharing. In fact, one of the things Furtado says in
      starting the Wiki crime map was, "This information may or may
      not exist some place in society, but it's actually easier for me to
      try to rebuild it from scratch than to try and get it from the
      authorities who might have it now."





      Maybe
      this will succeed or maybe it will fail. The normal case of
      social software is still failure; most of these experiments don't
      pan out. But the ones that do are quite incredible, and I hope that
      this one succeeds, obviously. But even if it doesn't, it's
      illustrated the point already, which is that someone working alone,
      with really cheap tools, has a reasonable hope of carving out enough
      of the cognitive surplus, enough of the desire to participate, enough
      of the collective goodwill of the citizens, to create a resource you
      couldn't have imagined existing even five years ago

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  • 07 May 08
    • If
      I had to pick the critical technology for the 20th
      century, the bit of social lubricant without which the wheels
      would've come off the whole enterprise, I'd say it was the sitcom.
      Starting with the Second World War a whole series of things
      happened--rising GDP per capita, rising educational attainment,
      rising life expectancy and, critically, a rising number of people who
      were working five-day work weeks. For the first time, society
      forced onto an enormous number of its citizens the requirement to manage
      something they had never had to manage before--free time.
    • It's better to do
      something than to do nothing.
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  • jutecht
    Jeff Utecht

    Here's something four-year-olds know: A screen that ships without a mouse ships broken. Here's something four-year-olds know: Media that's targeted at you but doesn't include you may not be worth sitting still for. Those are things that make me believe that this is a one-way change. Because four year olds, the people who are soaking most deeply in the current environment, who won't have to go through the trauma that I have to go through of trying to unlearn a childhood spent watching Gilligan's Island, they just assume that media includes consuming, producing and sharing.

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  • 04 May 08
    melmcbride
    M McBride

    And what's astonished people who were committed to the structure of the previous society, prior to trying to take this surplus and do something interesting, is that they're discovering that when you offer people the opportunity to produce and to share, th

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    • . For the first time, society
      forced onto an enormous number of its citizens the requirement to manage
      something they had never had to manage before--free time.
    • And television
      watching? Two hundred billion hours, in the U.S. alone, every year.
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  • 03 May 08
    • Desperate Housewives essentially functioned as
      a kind of cognitive heat sink, dissipating thinking that might
      otherwise have built up and caused society to overheat.
    • And it's
      only now, as we're waking up from that collective bender, that we're
      starting to see the cognitive surplus as an asset rather than as a
      crisis. We're seeing things being designed to take
      advantage of that surplus, to deploy it in ways more engaging than just having a TV in everybody's basement.
    • 7 more annotations...
  • 02 May 08
    • Starting with the Second World War a whole series of things
      happened--rising GDP per capita, rising educational attainment,
      rising life expectancy and, critically, a rising number of people who
      were working five-day work weeks. For the first time, society
      forced onto an enormous number of its citizens the requirement to manage
      something they had never had to manage before--free time.





      And what did we do with that free time? Well, mostly we spent it watching TV.

    • Desperate Housewives essentially functioned as
      a kind of cognitive heat sink, dissipating thinking that might
      otherwise have built up and caused society to overheat.
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  • 01 May 08
    stephencarr
    Stephen Carr

    Shirky's transcript from his keynote at web2.0 2008

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  • ggatin
    glen gatin

    So all that time I spent just watching Get Smart didn't help my Cognitive account. Does it count if I can still recite all the best lines? So your Mr.Big... So your Mr. Smart.

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    • Did
      you ever see that episode of Gilligan's Island where they almost get
      off the island and then Gilligan messes up and then they don't? I
      saw that one. I saw that one a lot when I was growing up. And every
      half-hour that I watched that was a half an hour I wasn't posting at
      my blog or editing Wikipedia or contributing to a mailing list. Now I
      had an ironclad excuse for not doing those things, which is
      none of those things existed then. I was forced into the channel
      of media the way it was because it was the only option. Now it's
      not, and that's the big surprise. However lousy it is to sit in your
      basement and pretend to be an elf, I can tell you from personal
      experience it's worse to sit in your basement and try to figure if
      Ginger or Mary Ann is cuter.
    • Here's something four-year-olds know: A screen that ships without a mouse ships
      broken. Here's something four-year-olds know: Media that's targeted at you but doesn't include you may not
      be worth sitting still for. Those are things that make me believe that this is a one-way change. Because four year olds, the
      people who are soaking most deeply in the current environment, who won't have to go through the trauma that I have to go
      through of trying to unlearn a childhood spent watching Gilligan's
      Island
      , they just assume that media
      includes consuming, producing and sharing.

  • 30 Apr 08
  • frufrufour1
    FruFru FourOne

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    • If
      I had to pick the critical technology for the 20th
      century, the bit of social lubricant without which the wheels
      would've come off the whole enterprise, I'd say it was the sitcom.
    • And what did we do with that free time? Well, mostly we spent it watching TV.
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  • 29 Apr 08
    • And
      this is the other thing about the size of the cognitive surplus we're
      talking about. It's so large that even a small change could have
      huge ramifications. Let's say that everything stays 99 percent the
      same, that people watch 99 percent as much television as they used
      to, but 1 percent of that is carved out for producing and for
      sharing. The Internet-connected population watches roughly a
      trillion hours of TV a year. That's about five times the size of the
      annual U.S. consumption. One per cent of that  is 10,000 Wikipedia projects per year
      worth of participation.





      I think that's going to be a big deal.
      Don't you?

    • Here's something four-year-olds know: A screen that ships without a mouse ships
      broken. Here's something four-year-olds know: Media that's targeted at you but doesn't include you may not
      be worth sitting still for. Those are things that make me believe that this is a one-way change. Because four year olds, the
      people who are soaking most deeply in the current environment, who won't have to go through the trauma that I have to go
      through of trying to unlearn a childhood spent watching Gilligan's
      Island
      , they just assume that media
      includes consuming, producing and sharing.