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saved byArne Løining on 2008-07-18

    • on 2008-07-18 Kropotkin
      SOTT: Although the author recognizes that these cases are pathological, he wrongly attributed them to the traumatic memories of holocaust. Rather, as pointed out by Lobaczewski in his book Political Ponerology, they are the results of either inherited genetic mutations, as in the case of psychopathy, or subtle brain damages acquired in the course of life.
    • on 2008-07-18 Kropotkin
      SOTT: Again, the failure of these debates is due to the fact that the pathological elements in the society are seen as normal and their actions are judged on the basis of morality. Instead, they should be viewed as a separate subspecies and studied and dealt with on the basis of psychological science, i.e. ponerology.
  • Then how
    comes Israel can persist in its illegal occupation and
    systematic genocide of their own Semitic brethren and
    cousins, the Palestinians, and the same war criminals get
    re-elected time and again?
  • Then how do they still end up being led by known killers and
    war criminals?
  • over there on Mars, they call it hypocrisy and
    thuggery. But here on Earth it is called Anti-Semitism and
    “war on terrorism”.
  • He would learn that Israel is a
    fraudulent creation born of a fraudulent motto a land for
    a people, for a people without land, for a land without
    people
    (how do they keep that going?)
  • The Israeli
    governments regardless of their stripes (Likud or Labor),
    usually dominated by Zionist ideologues, continue to oppress
    the remaining Palestinians now living in less than 22% of
    their original pre-1948 land, k
  • The
    successive governments purposely force one crisis after
    another to make pretexts for building more settlements and
    partitioning the area into disjointed Bantustans. Their hope
    is that the Palestinians will finally give up and just leave
    out of desperation.
  • Thus one sees the Zionist rulers of
    Israel delay making any reasonable peace because they know
    that time is in their favor, that making any kind of just
    peace in the future will have to take into account the facts
    on the ground that they are busy seeding! They also learn
    from the post apartheid South Africa that once the wealth
    and power is accumulated in the hands of the minority ruling
    class, its just and equitable redistribution later, when
    justice purportedly prevails and peace has been established
    between the warring factions, is next to
    impossible
  • These words
    are not from a rational mind
  • Hence those
    who criticize this prolific author and Holocaust survivor
    for his hypocrisy, must realize that he is not a rational
    person. For a rational mind, it would indeed be hypocrisy.
  • By the same token, they are also unfit to hold
    important positions of influence where their inability to
    tell right from wrong due to their own loss of objectivity
    and rational thinking, can lead to another's suffering.
    • on 2008-07-18 Kropotkin
      SOTT: In the above passages, the author clearly recognizes the pathological aspects. However, due to the lack of knowledge of ponerology, he cannot imagine those pathological elements as a separate subspecies. Instead, he tries desperately to mend his worldview by attributing those to traumatic experiences.
  • While the Holocaust suffering of the Jews
    lasted for six long apocalyptic years, the suffering and
    persecution of many Palestinians has gone on for more than
    three decades and is no less cataclysmic for the victims
  • Those who advocate support of Israel at the
    expense of enslaving Palestinians and killing them in small
    numbers at a time on a daily basis and wounding many more so
    that they would eventually die off as cripples but not raise
    the alarm in the rest of the world because numbers seem to
    define when mass killing is called a genocide and when it
    isn't, or removing them forcibly from their homeland
    euphemistically calling it a "population transfer", are
    guilty of the same crimes of genocide they accuse their own
    oppressors of.
  • Their most impressive and successful
    myth, that will one day perhaps rival those in ancient
    civilizations, is that "it is the poor Israel that is under
    siege by the evil and barbaric Palestinians illegally living
    on land given to the Jews by God Almighty Himself and it is
    so written in their ancient scriptures".
  • We can write and lament all we
    want, but so long as the American peoples continue to
    finance and arm Israel with their tax dollars and permit
    this genocide and hypocrisy to continue, there will be more
    and more books written in the future about the
    “banality of evil”!
  • But if they perceive an enemy (real or
    imagined) is out to get them, they will rise in self
    defense, as any self respecting nation would.
  • The power
    of an angry peoples willing to lay down their lives for
    their rights and justice worries all tyrants and empires.
  • There is indeed a lot of thought behind his
    deceptively laconic statement “Democracy is inimical to
    imperial mobilization”
    , for what it really states is
    that public protest can be destructive to the oilygarchy
    interests
  • Thus we see that ZB's
    observation for imperial mobilization has necessitated both
    a new Pearl Harbor, and the curtailment of civil liberties
    in order to counter the democratic instincts of the American
    public against imperial mobilization