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That argument won’t work, sweetheart. It isn’t pathetic enough.”
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s a result Dorothy had learned almost from birth that a good persuader doesn’t merely express her own emotions; she manipulates her audience.
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In the world of rhetoric, argument by the stick is no argument. It never persuades, it only inspires revenge.
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logos, ethos, and pathos.
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“Use your words,” I would say, “See if you can talk him into it.”
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The win felt doubly rewarding to them. They got to watch their show, and they enjoyed having earned it
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Because I don’t look stupid. And they’re my legs. I don’t mind if they get chapped
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He had done me one better with ethos (I don’t look stupid), logos (They’re my legs — you don’t have standing in this case), and pathos (Stop worrying — I’ll deal with the pain issue). He was also making his first genuine attempt to argue instead of cry
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George’s birthday Shorts Day
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They drive me crazy. They do me proud.
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05 May 11
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I explained that “pathetic” was a term used in rhetoric, the ancient art of argument. I had happened across the subject one rainy day in a library and become instantly obsessed. As a result Dorothy had learned almost from birth that a good persuader doesn’t merely express her own emotions; she manipulates her audience. Me, in other words.
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Dorothy and her younger brother, George, became keenly, even alarmingly, persuasive.
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Rhetoric doesn’t turn kids into back-sassers; it makes them think about other points of view.
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I had long equated arguing with fighting, but in rhetoric they are very different things.
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After every fight I’d ask him, “Did you get the other kid to agree with you?” For years he considered that a thoroughly stupid question, and maybe it was.
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Logos is argument by logic.
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Ethos, or argument by character, employs the persuader’s personality, reputation, and ability to look trustworthy.
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In rhetoric, lying isn’t just a foul because it’s wrong, it’s a foul because it’s unpersuasive.
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Then there’s pathos, argument by emotion.
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When a kid learns to read your emotions and play them like an instrument, you’re raising a good persuader.
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While our brain tries to sort the facts, our gut tells us whether we can trust the other person, and our heart makes us want to do something about it. They’re the essence of effective persuasion.
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Instead of “Use your words,” I would say, “See if you can talk him into it.” When my children made an honest attempt to persuade me to let them watch television, for instance, I gave in whenever possible: The win felt doubly rewarding to them.
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It was as if I’d given them advertising immunization shots.
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Oh, my. He had done me one better with ethos (I don’t look stupid), logos (They’re my legs — you don’t have standing in this case), and pathos (Stop worrying — I’ll deal with the pain issue). He was also making his first genuine attempt to argue instead of cry. I couldn’t possibly let him lose this one.
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A few weeks later the principal declared George’s birthday Shorts Day,
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1. Argue to teach decision-making. When you argue the various sides of an issue with your kids (“Beach or mountains this summer?”), they are learning to present different options (“Both!”) and then decide which choice to follow.
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2. Focus on the future. Arguments about the past (“Who made the mess with the toys?”) or the present (“Good children don’t leave messes.”) are far less productive than focusing on what to do or believe: “What’s a good way to make sure that toys get cleaned up?”
3. Call “fouls.” Anything that impedes debate counts as a foul: Shouting, storming out of the room, or recalling past family atrocities should instantly make you choose the opposite side.
4. Reward the right emotions. Respond to screaming and anger by not responding, except to say, “Oh, come on. You can do better than that.”
5. Let kids win sometimes. When they present a good argument, there’s no better teaching method than rewarding them. My overreliance on the slow cooker, for instance, made my son beg for “dry” food. “Even the cat’s meals,” he said, “aren’t all wet.” Good point. I served hamburgers next. Very dry hamburgers.
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19 Apr 11
Ian DavisAs a parent this Rocks! Good insight into goiod parenting technique though.
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Sarah Misco"Why would any sane parent teach his kids to talk back? Because, this father found, it actually increased family harmony."
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logos, ethos, and pathos. Logos is argument by logic
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Ethos, or argument by character, employs the persuader’s personality, reputation, and ability to look trustworthy.
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pathos, argument by emotion.
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Pathos happens to be the root word for “sympathy.”
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04 May 10
Tamela WatkinsI love this essay about the importance of teaching kids to argue.
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Ronda WeryHow to Teach a Child to Argue\n \nWhy would any sane parent teach his kids to talk back? Because, this father found, it actually increased family harmony.\n
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herp a derpWhy would any sane parent teach his kids to talk back? Because, this father found, it actually increased family harmony.
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Lauren MarksWhy would any sane parent teach his kids to talk back? Because, this father found, it actually increased family harmony.
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brockmoellerWhy on earth would any parent want that? Because persuasion is powerful. Rhetoric originated in the lawsuits of ancient Greece, when citizens who weren’t good at persuading could lose their houses — or their lives. It was a staple of education until the e
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seanyoWhy would any sane parent teach his kids to talk back? Because, this father found, it actually increased family harmony.
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Howard RheingoldHow to Teach a Child to Argue
Why would any sane parent teach his kids to talk back? Because, this father found, it actually increased family harmony.
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How to Teach a Child to Argue
Why would any sane parent teach his kids to talk back? Because, this father found, it actually increased family harmony.
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Rowan Taflerteaching the benefits of debate (with small children, admittedly)
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infora dimeMost Americans seem to avoid argument. But this has produced
passive aggression and groupthink in the office, red and blue states,
and families unable to discuss things as simple as what to watch on
television. Rhetoric doesn’t turn kids into back-seducation psychology rhetoric debate parenting argument logic toread
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Jeff GTo disagree reasonably, a child must learn the three basic tools of argument. I got them straight from Aristotle, hence the Greek labels: logos, ethos, and pathos.
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Francis NortonWhy it's good to teach our children to argue effectively, using logos (reason), ethos (credibility) and pathos (sympathy).
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