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  • fededouble
    federico Corno on 2009-06-09
    Thank you Mireille, i red the articles you suggested.
    i'm really intersted on the topic of education, at least because i'm still a student. Even if 'net generation' literacy gap is not such a tremendous force -as researches you suggested says- it is undubitable that digital era changed the way we all research information and the way we all learn day-by-day moment-by-moment (more younger than older).
    That's the point: tenure and the way universities teach is less efficient and less "fascinating" then it was in the past. Today they should reshape themself to stay as acctractive as they were.
  • mireillej
    Mireille J on 2009-06-05
    There's quite some research indicating that Tapscott is wrong. I've bookmarked some interesting articles at Diigo, 'generations'-tag.

    My impression is that the generation fad has been invented by marketeers and consultants, who hope to make some good money out of it.
  • powelstock
    David Powelstock on 2009-06-05
    Marvin Bressler, with a 'B'! Jeez.
  • willrich
    Will Richardson on 2009-06-04
    I really hate blanket statements like this though I think it is true for some schools.
  • powelstock
    David Powelstock on 2009-06-04
    Nothing new, and nothing true. This is so far from describing what goes on in today's university as to be ludicrous. Students and faculty interract in a wide variety of modes, including digital ones. The difference between the university and Don Tapscott sitting in his office with an internet connection is that students have guides to help them explore the world of information and ideas and help them learn the critical skill necessary to evaluate info sources. A lot has changed at the ol' university since Don's salad days.
  • willrich
    Will Richardson on 2009-06-04
    Nothing really new here, is there?
  • willrich
    Will Richardson on 2009-06-04
    We all need to be more open to this debate or conversation, even in K-12.
  • willrich
    Will Richardson on 2009-06-04
    Again, nothing new here.
  • ransomtech
    Steve Ransom on 2009-06-05
    Perhaps, but those surgeons, pilots, engineers, and the like who are so innovative and progressive also came from those very same lecture halls.
  • willrich
    Will Richardson on 2009-06-04
    Ugh. You're kidding me right? We can't come up with something original?
  • cmduke
    Chris Duke on 2009-06-09
    The notion that learners are inherently different riles me as well... At the very least:

    I'm certainly NOT a millenial; the first six years of my teaching career were spent teaching pre-millenials (or prior to 2000, at least). So, how can MY most valued learning experiences have exhibited characteristics of what's supposed to be unique and new with millenials just now coming to secondary and early college classrooms?

    Easy. Millenials are NOT different learners than those of us not-so-millenials trying to teach them. When given the opportunity, I reacted positively to engaging, social, experiential, visual, connected learning experiences, and I'm pretty confident most learners would have if they encountered those unique teachers - no matter how long ago they were sitting in a student seat.
  • mireillej
    Mireille J on 2009-06-05
    There's quite some research showing Tapscott is wrong. I have bookmarked some interesting articles at Diigo, 'generations' -tag. My impression is that the generation fad has been invented by marketeers and consultants, who hope to earn good money with it...
  • willrich
    Will Richardson on 2009-06-04
    This is where he really riles me. Most of this is fiction. And I wish he would use the correct adverb. Sheesh.
  • willrich
    Will Richardson on 2009-06-04
    Again, anything new here?
  • willrich
    Will Richardson on 2009-06-04
    Didn't he just say that one way lectures online was a threat?
  • willrich
    Will Richardson on 2009-06-04
    Better, but still not original thinking here.
  • ransomtech
    Steve Ransom on 2009-06-11
    Great quotation...problematic from an efficiency standpoint though.
  • willrich
    Will Richardson on 2009-06-04
    Der
  • ransomtech
    Steve Ransom on 2009-06-11
    I wouldn't disagree with that for the most part.
  • willrich
    Will Richardson on 2009-06-04
    This is what he wants us to believe, but for the vast majority of kids, they haven't been doing much of this at all.
  • ransomtech
    Steve Ransom on 2009-06-11
    Curriculum and how curriculum is learned are two very different things. Curriculum may be intrinsically interesting, but often we kill it by controlling the learning and destroying any sense of curiosity and discovery
  • ransomtech
    Steve Ransom on 2009-06-11
    Yes, but did the students write those statements on their own volition?
  • willrich
    Will Richardson on 2009-06-04
    Oddly, this was the one video of Wesch's that I really didn't like.
  • willrich
    Will Richardson on 2009-06-04
    But why would they if they couldn't connect and collaborate and co-create etc? Or are we just expecting them to figure that out?
  • ransomtech
    Steve Ransom on 2009-06-11
    But will those "other alternatives" provide the credentials that we are all looking for/expecting? Or, is the very notion of credentialing changing?
  • willrich
    Will Richardson on 2009-06-04
    I do wonder about this. How will credentialing change in a transparent world?
  • ransomtech
    Steve Ransom on 2009-06-11
    This is what I have been working towards. But, students have to watch/listen/process the lectures. The same students who often don't do the readings and come to class unprepared for any meaningful dialogue will be the ones who skip out on the lecture.
  • powelstock
    David Powelstock on 2009-06-05
    Nice quote, but it's Marvin Bressler, with a 'B.' Jeez.
  • willrich
    Will Richardson on 2009-06-04
    Nice quote
  • willrich
    Will Richardson on 2009-06-04
    Would love to know how much this happens absent the physical space.
  • willrich
    Will Richardson on 2009-06-04
    Great question, and this holds true for high schools to some extent as well.
  • willrich
    Will Richardson on 2009-06-04
    That's a stretch though, too.
  • willrich
    Will Richardson on 2009-06-04
    I really wish he would stop saying this.
  • willrich
    Will Richardson on 2009-06-04
    This I agree with.

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