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  • Structurally, social networks are driven by homophily even when there are individual exceptions. And sure enough, in the digital world, we see this manifested right before our eyes.
  • One thing to keep in mind about social media: the internet mirrors and magnifies pre-existing dynamics.
  • Although most of you call these sites "social networking sites," there's almost no networking going on. People use these sites to connect to the people they know.
  • In many ways, the Internet is providing a next generation public sphere. Unfortunately, it's also bringing with it next generation divides. The public sphere was never accessible to everyone. There's a reason than the scholar Habermas talked about it as the bourgeois public sphere. The public sphere was historically the domain of educated, wealthy, white, straight men. The digital public sphere may make certain aspects of public life more accessible to some, but this is not a given. And if the ways in which we construct the digital public sphere reinforce the divisions that we've been trying to break down, we've got a problem.
  • 1) Social stratification is pervasive in American society (and around the globe). Social media does not magically eradicate inequality. Rather, it mirrors what is happening in everyday life and makes social divisions visible. What we see online is not the property of these specific sites, but the pattern of adoption and development that emerged as people embraced them. People brought their biases with them to these sites and they got baked in.


    2) There is no universal public online. What we see as user "choice" in social media often has to do with structural forces like homophily in people's social networks. Social stratification in this country is not cleanly linked to race or education or socio-economic factors, although all are certainly present. More than anything, social stratification is a social networks issue. People connect to people who think like them and they think like the people with whom they are connected. The digital publics that unfold highlight and reinforce structural divisions.

  • 3) If you are trying to connect with the public, where you go online matters. If you choose to make Facebook your platform for civic activity, you are implicitly suggesting that a specific class of people is more worth your time and attention than others. Of course, splitting your attention can also be costly and doesn't necessarily mean that you'll be reaching everyone anyhow. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't. The key to developing a social media strategy is to understand who you're reaching and who you're not and make certain that your perspective is accounting for said choices. Understand your biases and work to counter them.


    4) The Internet has enabled many new voices to enter the political fray, but not everyone is sitting at the table. There's a terrible tendency in this country, and especially among politically minded folks, to interpret an advancement as a solution. We have not eradicated racism. We have not eradicated sexism. We have not eradicated inequality. While we've made tremendous strides in certain battles, the war is not over. The worst thing we can do is to walk away and congratulate ourselves for all of the good things that have happened. Such attitudes create new breeding grounds for increased stratification.

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  • 22 Nov 09
    akipta
    Allison Kipta

    "For decades, we've assumed that inequality in relation to technology has everything to do with "access" and that if we fix the access problem, all will be fine. This is the grand narrative of concepts like the "digital divide." Yet, increasingly, we're seeing people with similar levels of access engage in fundamentally different ways. And we're seeing a social media landscape where participation "choice" leads to a digital reproduction of social divisions. This is most salient in the States which is intentionally the focus of my talk here today. "

    technology boyd.danah

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    akochan
    Asako Yoshida

    Social media does not magically eradicate inequality

    connetivism danaboyd

    • Rather than staying in land of abstract, let's go concrete.
    • Rather, it mirrors what is happening in everyday life and makes social divisions visible.
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  • 16 Oct 09
    antmcneill
    Anthony McNeill

    Talk given at the Personal Democracy Forum.

    facebook politics class race ethnography myspace inequality boyd

  • 22 Sep 09
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    Jessica Staff

    Here is an up to date study dealing with some things similar to the Frontline episode. Also, it starts to address some of the issues we noticed with the sample the producers chose to use.

    p.s. I saw this because someone had posted it to their Facebook page...social media irony?

  • 16 Sep 09
    • In fact, if we want to get to the crux of what unfolded, we might as well face an uncomfortable reality... What happened was modern day "white flight." Whites were more likely to leave or choose Facebook. The educated were more likely to leave or choose Facebook. Those from wealthier backgrounds were more likely to leave or choose Facebook. Those from the suburbs were more likely to leave or choose Facebook. Those who deserted MySpace did so by "choice" but their decision to do so was wrapped up in their connections to others, in their belief that a more peaceful, quiet, less-public space would be more idyllic.
    • we tend to believe that these technologies are the great equalizers,
    • You need to understand the sticking points in order to move the needle in the right direction.
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    • For decades, we've assumed that inequality in relation to technology has everything to do with "access" and that if we fix the access problem, all will be fine. This is the grand narrative of concepts like the "digital divide." Yet, increasingly, we're seeing people with similar levels of access engage in fundamentally different ways.

    • And we're seeing a social media landscape where participation "choice" leads to a digital reproduction of social divisions.
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    • Given what we've experienced and what we witness today, we tend to believe that these technologies are the great equalizers, that they can help ANYONE participate, that the technologies in and of themselves can revitalize democracy. In other words, we tend to believe in a certain utopian myth of the internet as the savior. What if this weren't true?
    • Kat (14, Mass.): I'm not really into racism, but I think that MySpace now is more like ghetto or whatever, and Facebook is all... not all the people that have Facebook are mature, but its supposed to be like oh we're more mature. … MySpace is just old.
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  • 27 Jul 09
    • a rough unedited crib of the actual talk
    • boyd, danah. 2009. "The Not-So-Hidden Politics of Class Online." Personal Democracy Forum, New York, June 30.
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  • aletor
    Alejandro Tortolini

    Conferencia de Danah Boyd: "La no tan oculta politica de clases en linea".

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      biases and work to counter them.


      4) The Internet has enabled many new voices to enter the political fray, but
      not everyone is sitting at the table. There's a terrible tendency in this
      country, and especially among politically minded folks, to interpret an
      advancement as a solution. We have not eradicated racism. We have not eradicated
      sexism. We have not eradicated inequality. While we've made tremendous strides
      in certain battles, the war is not over. The worst thing we can do is to walk
      away and congratulate ourselves for all of the good things that have happened.
      Such attitudes create new breeding grounds for increased stratification.

    • 1) Social stratification is pervasive in American society (and around the
      globe). Social media does not magically eradicate inequality. Rather, it mirrors
      what is happening in everyday life and makes social divisions visible. What we
      see online is not the property of these specific sites, but the pattern of
      adoption and development that emerged as people embraced them. People brought
      their biases with them to these sites and they got baked in.
    • 3 more annotations...
  • 04 Jul 09
    bhwilkoff
    Ben Wilkoff

    Really interesting look at migration from Myspace to Facebook

    Research myspace facebook whiteflight socioeconomic from Delicious

  • ottonomy
    Nate Otto

    details a digital migration (myspace to facebook) that mirrors "white flight"..

    facebook myspace politics class race ethnography social_networking

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    Karl Fisch

    I'm worried about the rhetoric we use when we talk about technology. Given what we've experienced and what we witness today, we tend to believe that these technologies are the great equalizers, that they can help ANYONE participate, that the technologies in and of themselves can revitalize democracy. In other words, we tend to believe in a certain utopian myth of the internet as the savior. What if this weren't true?

    politics danah_boyd social_networking digital_divide

    • Facebook is less competitive than MySpace. It doesn’t have the Top 8 thing or anything like that, or the background thing
  • 01 Jul 09
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    Carleen Huxley

    "In many ways, the Internet is providing a next generation public sphere. Unfortunately, it's also bringing with it next generation divides"

    socialmedia socialnetworking danahboyd myspace facebook

    • For decades, we've assumed that inequality in relation to technology has everything to do with "access" and that if we fix the access problem, all will be fine. This is the grand narrative of concepts like the "digital divide." Yet, increasingly, we're seeing people with similar levels of access engage in fundamentally different ways. And we're seeing a social media landscape where participation "choice" leads to a digital reproduction of social divisions.
    • As is the case in many situations, teenagers are a darn good indicator of broader trends. I'm an ethnographer. For the last four years, I've been traveling the United States, talking to American teenagers about their use of social media. During the 2006-2007 school year, I started noticing a trend. In each school, in each part of the country, there were teens who opted for MySpace and teens who opted for Facebook. (There were also plenty of teens who used both.) At the beginning of the school year, teens were asking "Are you on MySpace? Yes or No?" At the end of the school year, the question had transformed to "MySpace or Facebook?"
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    Rem Palpitt

    For decades, we've assumed that inequality in relation to technology has everything to do with "access" and that if we fix the access problem, all will be fine. This is the grand narrative of concepts like the "digital divide." Yet, increasingly, we're seeing people with similar levels of access engage in fundamentally different ways. And we're seeing a social media landscape where participation "choice" leads to a digital reproduction of social divisions. This is most salient in the States which is intentionally the focus of my talk here today.

    myspace facebook politics danah_boyd recherche

    • For decades, we've assumed that inequality in relation to technology has everything to do with "access" and that if we fix the access problem, all will be fine. This is the grand narrative of concepts like the "digital divide." Yet, increasingly, we're seeing people with similar levels of access engage in fundamentally different ways. And we're seeing a social media landscape where participation "choice" leads to a digital reproduction of social divisions. This is most salient in the States which is intentionally the focus of my talk here today.
  • tsuomela
    Todd Suomela

    danah boyd updates her work on class/race divisions between users of Facebook and MySpace

    facebook myspace class online culture race ethnography social-computing social software

    • Given what we've experienced and what we witness today, we tend to believe that these technologies are the great equalizers, that they can help ANYONE participate, that the technologies in and of themselves can revitalize democracy. In other words, we tend to believe in a certain utopian myth of the internet as the savior. What if this weren't true?
    • Yet, increasingly, we're seeing people with similar levels of access engage in fundamentally different ways. And we're seeing a social media landscape where participation "choice" leads to a digital reproduction of social divisions.
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  • billguinee
    Bill Guinee

    m. wesch calls this a fantastic talk -- he is right

    class myspace facebook online

    • Social network sites complicate this even further. Social network sites are not like email where it doesn't matter if you're on Hotmail or Yahoo. When you choose MySpace or Facebook, you can't send messages to people on the other site. You can't Friend people on the other site. There's a cultural wall between users. And if there's no way for people to communicate across the divide, you can never expect them to do so.
  • 30 Jun 09
    • I'm worried about the rhetoric we use when we talk about technology
    • In other words, we tend to believe in a certain utopian myth of the internet as the savior
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  • juliee
    Julie Espinosa

    In your world, Iran probably matters more than Michael Jackson. But don't for a second think that this is universal.

    socialnetworks society

    • Structurally, social networks are driven by homophily even when there are individual exceptions. And sure enough, in the digital world, we see this manifested right before our eyes.
    • One thing to keep in mind about social media: the internet mirrors and magnifies pre-existing dynamics.
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  • settlementatwork
    Settlement AtWork

    This talk was written for a specific audience - the attendees of the Personal Democracy Forum. This audience is primarily American, primarily liberal-leaning, primarily white, and primarily involved professionally in politics in one way or another. Keep this audience in mind when I'm talking about "we" here.

    I want to ask a favor here today. I want you to step away from the techno-hyperbole for just a moment and think about issues of inequality and social stratification with me. I want you to think about the ways in which technology is not equally available or equally transformative.

    For decades, we've assumed that inequality in relation to technology has everything to do with "access" and that if we fix the access problem, all will be fine. This is the grand narrative of concepts like the "digital divide." Yet, increasingly, we're seeing people with similar levels of access engage in fundamentally different ways. And we're seeing a social media landscape where participation "choice" leads to a digital reproduction of social divisions. This is most salient in the States which is intentionally the focus of my talk here today.

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