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    • If a surgeon from the 1800s walked into an operating room today
      where arthroscopic surgery was being performed, could that surgeon
      step in and perform the surgery?   No way.   The surgeon would not even
      understand what the procedure was, would not understand what the
      instruments were, and would be totally lost about what was going
      on.



      But if a teacher from the 1800s walked into a classroom today,
      could he or she substitute as a teacher?   If so, why would that be
      possible?   Perhaps the
      educators of the 1800s were able to anticipate the needs of the 21
      st century and designed a system that perfectly fits our
      educational purposes today.   The other possibility is
      that our industrial era schools have not changed to keep pace with
      our current understanding of cognition and learning. If this system
      of factory era schooling does not meet the needs of today’s
      learners and the demands of our information age economy, we have a
      problem.   If we have a
      system that does not fit our needs anymore, we   must begin thinking about
      how to transform the educational system we have.

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    kathleennann
    Kathleen N

    Carroll, T. G. (2000). If we didn't have the schools we have today,\nwould we create the schools we have today? Contemporary Issues in Technology and Teacher Education [Online serial], 1 (1). Available: http://www.citejournal.org/vol1/iss1/currentissues/general/article1.htm

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  • 23 Jul 09
    phdumper
    Chris Andrews

    Carroll, T. G. (2000). If we didn't have the schools we have today,
    would we create the schools we have today? Contemporary Issues in Technology and Teacher Education [Online serial], 1 (1).

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    heidigable
    Heidi Gable

    If We Didn’t Have the Schools We Have Today, Would We Create the Schools We Have Today?

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    mhines
    Mark Hines

    great article form 2001 from Thomas Caroll asking the question "If we didn't have today's schools, would we crate today's schools?

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    • he question in the title of
      this article is a trick
      question, because I want readers to really think about it.
      “If we didn’t have today’s schools, would we
      create today’s
      • Mark Hines

        Mark Hines on 2009-07-11

        After visiting the MET in Providence, I am convinced that Littky has already answered this question with an entirely new way of thinking of school - and he has plenty of data to show IT WORKS!

    • (A
      significant part of the expert learner’s role will be
      organizing and managing the collaborative learning community.)
       
      • Mark Hines

        Mark Hines on 2009-07-11

        of course, the wonderful thing about this is that this is age-independent - it allows even a very young learner an opportunity to be the expert - we rarely enable this kind of human potential in schools.

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    • “If We
      Didn’t Have Today’s Schools, Would We Create
      Today’s Schools?”
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    • Their job will not be to teach – but to
      help others learn,
  • scmorgan
    susan carter morgan

    2000, What kind os schools would we build?

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    • They are a great hybrid technology for now. We are using
      them to make the transition, but imagine if I walked into that
      surgery room with a laptop computer and said, “I have a
      laptop computer here with business applications on it, and it will
      revolutionize the way you practice surgery.” They would throw
      me right out of there.
      • Brenda Muench

        Brenda Muench on 2009-07-02

        Web 2.0 Applications are the beginning of this change I think. Let the users decide what they need and how they want to use it but it's got to be collaborative in nature!

    • Our traditional K-12
      schools have rarely made room for adults and young people to
      collaboratively contribute to each other’s learning, or to
      the development of new knowledge on a sustained basis.   But our information age
      economy demands this intergenerational, collaborative construction
      of knowledge, and our schools will fail to develop young people who
      can be productive citizens in this economy if they do not support
      this mode of learning.
    • As we collaboratively work
      together in a learning community, we can complement each
      other’s knowledge and skills.   In a networked learning
      community, we can greatly accelerate and augment the learning of
      all members by linking them with other learners in collaborative
      efforts organized by expert learners.
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    • Yes. Computers can be used
      to improve schools.
    • Yes. Computers can be used
      to improve schools.
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    lrphils
    Larry Rosbach

    If we didn't have the schools we have today,
    would we create the schools we have today?

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  • 07 Jun 09
    lindseybp
    Barbara Lindsey

    expert learners (we call them teachers, educators, scientists, and researchers today) are going to be recognized for their ability to learn and help others learn, as they continue to construct new knowledge and develop their own expertise.

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    • There is no way for
      the faculty or teachers to collaboratively learn and construct new
      knowledge in this system—no way for them to know whether the
      knowledge that might have been acquired by the student teacher is
      actually the knowledge the student teacher then conveys as a
      teacher to the K-12 students. Few, if any, of the educators know
      anything about what the K-12 students might be doing with any of
      the knowledge they may have acquired after they leave the K-12
      classroom.   This is a
      linear, fragmented teaching approach—the epitome of the
      factory-era assembly line approach to teaching and
      learning—which defeats any opportunity for collaborative
      learning or feedback across the various levels of teaching and
      teacher preparation.
    • New learning teams are emerging, which consist of college
      faculty, the teacher candidates, and the in-service teachers. The
      high school students themselves are sometimes members of these
      teams, developing new applications of technology. They are becoming
      learning communities, “communities of practice,” as
      some would call it.  
      And in these learning communities, the distinctions between
      “teacher” and “student” no longer serve us
      well. That is why I believe education is rapidly moving toward new
      learning environments that will have no teachers or
      students—just learners with different levels and areas of
      expertise collaboratively constructing new knowledge.
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    nilocram
    roberto marcolin

    Today’s model of schooling is to bring the learner to the knowledge—tomorrow we will bring the knowledge to the learners. We must recognize that schools and classrooms are becoming nodes in networked learning communities. We must begin to think about how

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    • If a surgeon from the 1800s walked into an operating room today
      where arthroscopic surgery was being performed, could that surgeon
      step in and perform the surgery?
    • Most of what we are doing
      with computers is comparable to putting steam engines in wooden
      sailing ships.
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  • brkuhn
    Brian

    great article about how learning and school has or has not changed and what needs to be transformed to prepare for today and the future to meet the needs of students and teachers

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    • But most schools and classrooms will no longer be the central learning hubs they
      are today.   Today’s model of
      schooling is to bring the learner to the knowledge—tomorrow we will bring the
      knowledge to the learners.   We must
      recognize that schools and classrooms are becoming nodes in networked learning
      communities.   We must begin to
      think about how to organize learning in networked communities and not limit
      learning within the boundaries of classrooms and school buildings—which would be
      to limit our thinking to what has been possible in the past in a single school
      or node.
      • Brian

        Brian on 2009-05-20

        This statement really needs to be foundational in school construction project design and planning work. We need to completely rethink how schools are designed. A 100 year old design is not the right design to support the learning community model described here.

    • The new and more powerful opportunity


      available to educators today is to use these
      technologies to help

      individuals collaboratively construct
      networked learning

      communities that will accelerate and augment
      the community’s

      learning, as well as each individual’s
      learning.
      • Brian

        Brian on 2009-05-20

        I wonder how this and other ideas here transfer to each level (eg, elementary, middle, secondary)? These statements aren't differentiated for age appropriateness. I'd like to see that fleshed out.

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    • eally think about it.
      “If we didn’t have today’s schools,
  • ddesroches
    Donna DesRoches

    worth reading - noting and adding to the annotations on the page

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    Kevin Hodgson

    Interesting article about education

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    • Invention and knowledge
      generation
      . The third dimension of a learning community is
      “invention” and knowledge generation.   In this mode, young and old
      learn to collaboratively construct new knowledge.   Through this collaborative
      learning, young and old join forces to create the future. The
      community values innovation, and Change is Good .   Our traditional K-12
      schools have rarely made room for adults and young people to
      collaboratively contribute to each other’s learning, or to
      the development of new knowledge on a sustained basis.   But our information age
      economy demands this intergenerational, collaborative construction
      of knowledge, and our schools will fail to develop young people who
      can be productive citizens in this economy if they do not support
      this mode of learning.
    • Change Is
      Inevitable
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    Michael Wacker

    The investment of resources on this scale is comparable to the space program. The process of building this infrastructure is similar to launching a rocket in education. Now that we have launched that rocket, we must learn to fly. That may seem backwards,

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    tyyost
    Ty Yost

    If We Didn’t Have the Schools We Have Today, Would We Create the Schools We Have Today?

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    • The Virtual High School
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    H. Hampson

    If We Didn’t Have the Schools We Have Today, Would We Create the Schools We Have Today?

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  • shareski
    Dean Shareski

    Annotated link http://www.diigo.com/bookmark/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.citejournal.org%2Fvol1%2Fiss1%2Fcurrentissues%2Fgeneral%2Farticle1.htm

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    • We have to start preparing teachers differently. If we are going to
      continue preparing educators to work as solo, stand-alone teachers
      in self-contained, isolated classrooms, we are going to perpetuate
      the schools we have toda
      • Dean Shareski

        Dean Shareski on 2009-05-15

        This is exactly the focus on my course at the University of Regina. My disclaimer to my students is that they have grown up in a system that for the most part, worked for them. It's going to be hard for them to change as well.

    • Then I ask everyone who uses a touchtone phone to raise
      their hands again. “How many of you with your hands up have
      made the decision to use this technology because of a research
      article that you read?” This is the technology we use to
      communicate with each other every day, and no one can cite an
      article on its effectiveness? I have done this at a lot of
      meetings, and I still have not found anybody who can give me a
      convincing research article or evaluation study that says using
      telephones is a good thing to do. And, actually, I can tell you
      from my own inquiry into this, having worked with the
      telecommunications industry, that there is no research to support
      what you are doing. It’s not there.   Now that you know that
      there is no research to support what you are doing, how many of you
      will get rid of your phones?
      • Dean Shareski

        Dean Shareski on 2009-05-15

        A great response to the arguement about whether or not technology improves learning.

    • We should stop calling these individuals
      “teachers” and “students” and start calling
      them “learners” instead.   More than just a change of
      names, it is a change to a fundamentally different role.   It is very different to be
      a “learner” than to be a “student” or a
      “teacher.”
      • Marilyn Mossman

        Marilyn Mossman on 2009-05-15

        How do we get current teachers to accept this change?

    • Many of the people in
      the country who know the most about how to use this technology
      effectively in K-12 schools are the master teachers—whom I
      would call expert learners—in the K-12 schools, and we have a
      lot to learn from them.
  • elysio
    Elysio Soares

    If we didn't have the schools we have today, would we create the schools we have today? by Thomas G. Carroll, U.S. Dept. of Education (2000)

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    • If we want schools to be
      different, we must start today to prepare teachers
      differently… si gnificantly
      differently.
      • Mary Ann Harlan

        Mary Ann Harlan on 2009-05-15

        Changing before teachers enter the system - but my thought is that is has to be holistic, a system redesign

      • Patrick Higgins

        Patrick Higgins on 2009-05-15

        Mary Ann,

        I agree that sending "changed" teachers out into schools that are unchanged would be a dangerous thing to do.

    • These bodies of
      knowledge are passed on as valued cultural wealth
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    Ben Louey

    If We Didn’t Have the Schools We Have Today, Would We Create the Schools We Have Today?

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  • willrich
    Will Richardson

    Today’s model of schooling is to bring the learner to the knowledge—tomorrow we will bring the knowledge to the learners. We must recognize that schools and classrooms are becoming nodes in networked learning communities. We must begin to think about how to organize learning in networked communities and not limit learning within the boundaries of classrooms and school buildings—which would be to limit our thinking to what has been possible in the past in a single school or node.

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    • And the trick is, if you
      wouldn’t create today’s schools, what are you doing
      about it?   If we
      continue to prepare teachers as we have always prepared them, we
      are going to continue to recreate the schools we have always had.
      • Will Richardson

        Will Richardson on 2009-05-15

        Too true. This is a huge professional development undertaking.

    • Papert (1996) has suggested that another way to think about this
      question is to ask, “If the changes in education over the
      last 100 years had been as dramatic as the changes in medicine over
      that time, what would our schools look like today?”
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    • I believe that in the near future the places
      where children will learn are not going to look anything like the
      schools we have today.  
  • tsheko
    Tania Sheko

    if we didn't have the schools we have today, would we create the schools we have today? by Thomas G. Carroll

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    • Networked Learning
      Communities
      • Sharon Elin

        Sharon Elin on 2009-05-15

        This analogy of equipping sailing vessels with steam engines works well as an illustration of technology being plugged into traditional classrooms.

    • We need to get the teacher into
      the game. The teacher needs to get in there and be part of the
      learning process, actively engaged in solving the problem with the
      students and learning with the students—not teaching but
      modeling learning with the students by functioning as an expert
      learner solving problems and constructing new knowledge with the
      students.
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    • First, the purpose of
      education will move from being curriculum driven to being learning
      centered. Learning is a verb, not a noun
    • Assessment will be
      embedded on an ongoing basis in electronic learning activities and
      documented in digital portfolios.
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