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Lampertina bookmarked on 2008-05-26 astani advertising billboards outdoor_installations public_art public_space los_angeles

File this under "life imitates art"? There's a fascinating battle happening in LA over whether or not Sonny Astani, businessman and developer, should be permitted to install a new kind of LED-generated image, 12 stories above the street and 14 stories tall, on the side of his 33-story condo building currently under construction in downtown LA.

The inspiration? Opening scenes in Blade Runner of downtown LA, showing "a skyscraper-sized advertisement portraying a Japanese woman smiling before popping a snack into her mouth. Astani says an image, such as that of a flying sea gull, could now even travel from one building to the next."

I have to admit this sounds really cool, but I can see why many factions in LA would oppose this, too. We're all familiar with the really bright illuminated advertisements -- even Victoria has a small version of one, installed outside the arena on Blanshard at Caledonia. It's bright, too bright. But Astani proposes a much more modulated, artistic, and dimmed level of lighting. If the images could look as subtle -- yet powerful -- as Blade Runner's, it could work, but there's no garantee, that if permitted, subsequent developers would follow in that "artistic" style.

Another aspect is this: the proposal, if it's art, also calls into question just how intrusive public art should be in public space. Does it have a right to be so intrusive as to be impossible to ignore? Can I, as a citizen, be obliged to register public art -- and admittedly, it would be impossible not to register this project?

Is part of what captures my attention/ imagination regarding this project its uncanny fusion of subtlety and assault, packaged as visual stimulus?

Another question: is this an art form that expresses a corporate and anti-pedestrian city ("...neighborhood anchored by Staples Center and L.A. Live, the hotel and entertainment complex that includes the recently opened Nokia Theatre"), fitting for LA where people don't walk anyway (but just wait: it'll show up soon enough on the very v

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    an animated sign 14-stories tall on the 33-story condominium
    project he is building in downtown L.A.
  • The proposed sign would loom 12 stories above the sidewalk at
    9th and Figueroa streets, facing the 110 Freeway. And city planners
    say it would represent a first in the city's residential architecture
    -- a sheet of light-emitting screens spaced close enough to form
    a vast electronic image, yet far enough apart to allow occupants
    to look outside.
  • Astani's proposal is only the latest controversial effort to
    bring massive advertising and colorful light shows to the neighborhood
    anchored by Staples Center and L.A. Live, the hotel and entertainment
    complex that includes the recently opened Nokia Theatre.


    Civic boosters promised two years ago that L.A. Live would transform
    Figueroa's entertainment district into Times Square West -- a
    California counterpart to the bright lights and in-your-face
    advertising seen at Broadway and 42nd Street in Manhattan.

  • Although much of L.A. Live is under construction, the district
    around Staples already has some of those colorful lights, including
    the red squares that percolate like soda bubbles on the exterior
    of the Met Lofts and the spotlights at Nokia that strafe the
    sky,
  • at least two high-rises could be partly covered with rows of
    tiny panels embedded with LEDs, or light-emitting diodes -- a
    concept viewed by some at City Hall as the next frontier in outdoor
    advertising.
  • In November, the City
    Council approved Fig Central, a hotel and condominium complex
    across from Staples Center that will have at least one 330-foot-long
    band of animated advertising. And at least seven more electronic
    signs are planned for the rest of L.A. Live, according to city
    officials.


    The courtyard outside Nokia Theatre has 12 LED signs -- enormous
    screens that intersperse concert footage with advertisements
    for mobile phones and Coca-Cola. The theater is adorned with
    more screens and billboards, a fact that disappoints some neighbors.

  • "It might actually be beautiful," she said. "It
    might actually be art, as opposed to just ads."
  • The billboard question seemed finally to have been answered
    in 2002, when then-Councilwoman Cindy Miscikowski, after 14 years
    of trying, won passage of a ban on outdoor advertising. But that
    law also contained a provision allowing the creation of "supplemental
    use districts," places like Hollywood, where billboards
    would be permitted in large numbers.
  • he argues that his LED displays should
    not be considered billboards.


    To make the images less blinding, the signs would have a brightness
    of only 1,200 candelas at night -- roughly one-sixth the intensity
    of the signs found at L.A. Live, Astani said. And because the
    movements of his LED sign would be slower than the images on
    a television screen, Astani contends, his 14-story sign would
    be graceful, not gaudy.


    "We don't want to create a monster," Astani said. "If
    this is bright or intrusive, we cannot sell the condominiums.
    It will have to be so unique and unobtrusive that people will
    be proud to live behind it."

  • If approved, the signs would contain artistic content during
    10% of their operation, with another 10% devoted to community
    announcements, according to Astani's proposal. The sign rules
    also would dictate the speed with which the animated images change.
    • lampertina
      Lampertina on 2008-05-26
      Only 10% artistic content sounds pretty mingy...
  • Most of the companies installing the new lights have ties to
    City Hall. L.A. Live builder Anschutz Entertainment Group has
    given $485,000 to causes backed by Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa.
    The developer of Fig Central has given $100,000; Astani has given
    $150,000.

This link has been bookmarked by 2 people . It was first bookmarked on 26 May 2008, by Yule Heibel.

  • 26 May 08
    lampertina
    Yule Heibel

    File this under "life imitates art"? There's a fascinating battle happening in LA over whether or not Sonny Astani, businessman and developer, should be permitted to install a new kind of LED-generated image, 12 stories above the street and 14 stories tall, on the side of his 33-story condo building currently under construction in downtown LA.

    The inspiration? Opening scenes in Blade Runner of downtown LA, showing "a skyscraper-sized advertisement portraying a Japanese woman smiling before popping a snack into her mouth. Astani says an image, such as that of a flying sea gull, could now even travel from one building to the next."

    I have to admit this sounds really cool, but I can see why many factions in LA would oppose this, too. We're all familiar with the really bright illuminated advertisements -- even Victoria has a small version of one, installed outside the arena on Blanshard at Caledonia. It's bright, too bright. But Astani proposes a much more modulated, artistic, and dimmed level of lighting. If the images could look as subtle -- yet powerful -- as Blade Runner's, it could work, but there's no garantee, that if permitted, subsequent developers would follow in that "artistic" style.

    Another aspect is this: the proposal, if it's art, also calls into question just how intrusive public art should be in public space. Does it have a right to be so intrusive as to be impossible to ignore? Can I, as a citizen, be obliged to register public art -- and admittedly, it would be impossible not to register this project?

    Is part of what captures my attention/ imagination regarding this project its uncanny fusion of subtlety and assault, packaged as visual stimulus?

    Another question: is this an art form that expresses a corporate and anti-pedestrian city ("...neighborhood anchored by Staples Center and L.A. Live, the hotel and entertainment complex that includes the recently opened Nokia Theatre"), fitting for LA where people don't walk anyway (but just wait: it'll show up soon enough on the very v

    astani advertising billboards outdoor_installations public_art public_space los_angeles

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      an animated sign 14-stories tall on the 33-story condominium
      project he is building in downtown L.A.
    • The proposed sign would loom 12 stories above the sidewalk at
      9th and Figueroa streets, facing the 110 Freeway. And city planners
      say it would represent a first in the city's residential architecture
      -- a sheet of light-emitting screens spaced close enough to form
      a vast electronic image, yet far enough apart to allow occupants
      to look outside.
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  • 27 Apr 08
    kburrell
    Kevin Burrell

    Source: LA Times dot com
    Date: 01.27.2008
    By: David Zahniser, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

    Out door advertising Digital