What?! which "anarchists" is he talking about?! Anarchists are against all forms of oppression including capitalist and state oppression. And they clearly see the state as the product of capitalism and as Malatesta puts it "its gendarme". That is why anarchists appose the state socialism claim that the state can be used by the proletariat to organize their societies after the revolution; the state is the product of capitalism and therefor can not be used to organize the new society. As Marx stats it "the working class cannot simply lay hold of ready-made state machinery, and wield it for its own purposes.”
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27 Dec 10
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the idea of a society without a state has now (wrongly) come to be associated exclusively with anarchism. Conversely, Marxism is almost universally identified (again wrongly) with the idea of state ownership of the economy, and, by extension, with strengthening the state, rather than doing away with it.
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mistaken idea that Marxism is somehow pro-state comes first from the development of reformist Social Democratic parties after Marx and Engels' death that indeed argued that the path to socialism led through the existing state institutions. In particular, Social Democracy of the early 20th century envisioned socialism as something to be achieved by gaining a majority within the representative institutions of the state, and then using its electoral conquests to implement a series of social reforms, leading to full socialization of production.
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social reformism tended to adapt to capitalism rather than transform it
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There was a brief revolutionary hiatus in which the Russian revolutionary Lenin rescued from oblivion the original ideas of Marx and Engels on the state--that it was an instrument of class oppression and, therefore, could not be used by the working class to change society. When Lenin began to argue that the state should be "smashed" and on its ruins new organs of workers' democracy erected, his fellow revolutionaries accused him of a lapse into anarchism.
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Both anarchists and Marxists seek a stateless society--the anarchists because in the state they see the root of all oppression and exploitation, and the Marxists because the state, as the instrument for the maintenance of class rule, must fall away when class rule is done away with.
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Frederick Engels expressed the difference well in a letter to an Italian anarchist on Mikhail Bakunin, a contemporary of Marx and Engels:
Bakunin has a peculiar theory of his own...the chief point of which is in the first place that he does not regard capital, and therefore the class contradiction between capitalists and wage earners which has arisen through social development, as the main evil to be abolished--instead, he regards the state as the main evil.
While the great mass of the Social Democratic workers hold our view that state power is nothing more than the organization with which the ruling classes, landlords and capitalists have provided themselves in order to protect their social prerogatives, Bakunin maintains that it is the state which has created capital, that the capitalist has his capital only by favor of the state.
As, therefore, the state is the chief evil, it is above all the state which must be done away with and then capitalism will go to hell of itself. We, on the contrary say: do away with capital, the appropriation of the whole means of production in the hands of the few, and the state will fall away of itself.
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MARX AND Engels were opposed to the idea that revolutions could be made by minorities on behalf of the working class.
Marx, for example, rejected the politics of the German socialist Ferdinand Lassalle, who viewed the working class as a sort of stage army that would help him into office, after which he and his cohorts would implement socialism from above.
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Though they admired his devotion and courage, Marx and Engels were critical of the politics of the French revolutionary Auguste Blanqui, who, according to Engels, believed "that a small and well-organized minority...could carry the mass of the people with them...and...make a victorious revolution."
Engels also criticizes the Blanquists for seeking a "dictatorship, not of the entire revolutionary class, the proletariat, but of the small minority that has made the revolution, and who are themselves previously organized under the dictatorship of one or several individuals."
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Anarchists and socialists both agree that we need to do away with unaccountable authority, and all forms of authority that are deployed to maintain the current relations in society of exploitation, inequality and oppression. Beyond that however, the agreement begins to break down.
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In his essay, On Authority, Engels wrote:
All socialists are agreed that the political state, and with it political authority, will disappear as a result of the coming social revolution, that is, that public functions will lose their political character and will be transformed into the simple administrative functions of watching over the true interests of society. But the anti-authoritarians demand that the political state be abolished at one stroke, even before the social conditions that gave birth to it have been destroyed.
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The question then arises: how can a new society be built if the new revolutionary power refuses to establish a new power, i.e., a state, to prevent the old order from regaining its foothold?
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11 Mar 09
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the anarchists because in the state they see the root of all oppression and exploitation
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Add Sticky Notethe anarchists because in the state they see the root of all oppression and exploitation
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Add Sticky NoteBakunin has a peculiar theory of his own...the chief point of which is in the first place that he does not regard capital, and therefore the class contradiction between capitalists and wage earners which has arisen through social development, as the main evil to be abolished--instead, he regards the state as the main evil.
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انجلز بيفكرني هنا بكتب المسلمين عن البهائية
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We may add that this letter was prior to the Paris Commune, which had radical effects on Marx (check "The Civil War in France" and the quick reference in the 1848 edition of the "Manifesto of the Communist Party" Preface regarding the state and the proletariat.
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06 Mar 09
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